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hellgrammite
2017-12-31, 03:16 PM
Wanted to get peoples' feedback on Vhok that I whipped up this morning. I ported over as much as I could from Hellgrate Keep Dungeon Crawl. I might include him as a higher level threat in an underdark campaign. Too powerful? Too weak? His Scepter is what makes him a serious threat (and an excellent prize that would help a group of PCs stop epic level threats like demon princes after fighting him.)

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/26165686_2037339009627994_6746840283865745164_n.jp g?oh=d604df964cc8cb729b743add34166b5e&oe=5AF954F8

hellgrammite
2018-01-02, 12:50 PM
Hoping that image link works now.

JNAProductions
2018-01-03, 11:37 AM
Hoping that image link works now.

It does indeed work.

Overall, looks like a decent monster. Didn't run the CR math on it, because I'm lazy, but I will if you'd like me to.

hellgrammite
2018-01-03, 08:28 PM
It does indeed work.

Overall, looks like a decent monster. Didn't run the CR math on it, because I'm lazy, but I will if you'd like me to.

That would be great. Thanks

JNAProductions
2018-01-04, 11:45 AM
HP-157.
Effective HP-157+90 (Legendary Resistances)=247
AC-20.
Effective AC-20+2 (saves)+2 (Magic Resistance)+1 (Parry)=25
Base DCR-13
Adjusted DCR for AC-16

DPR-(9+7)*2+(7+11)=50
Hit Bonus-+11 on average.
Save DCs-17 on average.
Base OCR-7
Adjusted OCR-9

16+9=25, 25/2=12.5, round up because he has spells and whatnot, CR=13.

In other words... For a CR 18 monster, this guy is gonna go down like a chump.

My advice? Up his HP significantly. Give him a bonus action to do something cool. Let him make a few more attacks (although admittedly, at-will Cause Fear is pretty good.)

Oh, and one thing I noticed-the whip poisons for one minute. It should allow a new save every turn.

Flashy
2018-01-04, 04:06 PM
HP-157.
Effective HP-157+90 (Legendary Resistances)=247
AC-20.
Effective AC-20+2 (saves)+2 (Magic Resistance)+1 (Parry)=25
Base DCR-13
Adjusted DCR for AC-16

DPR-(9+7)*2+(7+11)=50
Hit Bonus-+11 on average.
Save DCs-17 on average.
Base OCR-7
Adjusted OCR-9

16+9=25, 25/2=12.5, round up because he has spells and whatnot, CR=13.

In other words... For a CR 18 monster, this guy is gonna go down like a chump.

My advice? Up his HP significantly. Give him a bonus action to do something cool. Let him make a few more attacks (although admittedly, at-will Cause Fear is pretty good.)

Oh, and one thing I noticed-the whip poisons for one minute. It should allow a new save every turn.

This math is largely spot on but if I remember correctly shouldn’t the DPR include three extra weapon attacks to account for the legendary actions?

Also, much like the whip’s poison the battleaxe’s instant decapitation on crit definitely needs a saving throw attached to it.