RaiKirah
2018-01-14, 08:49 PM
Hello!
I’ve got a number of questions about the Warlock lesser Invocations Crawling Eye and Disembodied Hand (CM) which basically boil down to ‘how does this interact with (insert everything in the game)?’
First, for those not familiar some of the relevant details:
Crawling Eye causes one of your eyes to pop out of your head and wander around as a fine creature. It explicitly has its own move which you command via free action, you cannot cast spells through it, but it is affected by any vision based spells you cast. It has a Hide and Move Silently modifier equal to your Invocation caster level and a fixed AC, and uses your stats for everything else (saves, Spot, etc.).
Disembodied Hand causes one hand to detach as a diminutive creature. It has a fly speed, but any action it takes requires the same action to be sacrificed (move for move, standard for standard, etc.). It can do anything you can with a hand, e.g. attack, pick something up, cast a spell w/o a verbal component, etc.. It uses your stats for everything, except that it has a Hide and Move Silently modifier equal to your invocation caster level and a fixed AC.
The questions then, are how does this interact with: Spells, Items, Racial/Templates, etc.
For Spells: are these creatures considered to be ‘you’ for the purposes of targeting, or are they separate creatures? Do they benefit from ongoing buffs cast before they detach? Do they benefit from Buffs cast on the host body after detaching, or do they need to be targeted separately? Can a Crawling Eye activate an Ocular Spell? If so, can it only do so for one cast prior to detaching, or can you cast an Ocular Spell into a detached Crawling Eye?
For Items: are these creatures considered to be part of ‘you’ for item effects? I.e. if I have a Ring of Protection +1 on the non-Disembodied Hand does it get the Deflection Bonus? Does the Crawling Eye? If they count as separate creatures, do they have items slots (1/2 rings for the Hand, face/feet for the Eye)?
For Racial/Templates: do these creatures benefit from racial/template modifiers? E.g. if the host body is Dark template do the Eye and Hand benefit from the Hide and Move Silently bonuses (and thus have warlock level + template modifiers)?
I think that covers most of my questions. Anywhoo, any light that can be shed on these would be appreciated. I assume that most of these answers will be GM dependent and thus technically homebrew, but I was curious if there exist any RAW answers. Thanks!
~RaiKirah
I’ve got a number of questions about the Warlock lesser Invocations Crawling Eye and Disembodied Hand (CM) which basically boil down to ‘how does this interact with (insert everything in the game)?’
First, for those not familiar some of the relevant details:
Crawling Eye causes one of your eyes to pop out of your head and wander around as a fine creature. It explicitly has its own move which you command via free action, you cannot cast spells through it, but it is affected by any vision based spells you cast. It has a Hide and Move Silently modifier equal to your Invocation caster level and a fixed AC, and uses your stats for everything else (saves, Spot, etc.).
Disembodied Hand causes one hand to detach as a diminutive creature. It has a fly speed, but any action it takes requires the same action to be sacrificed (move for move, standard for standard, etc.). It can do anything you can with a hand, e.g. attack, pick something up, cast a spell w/o a verbal component, etc.. It uses your stats for everything, except that it has a Hide and Move Silently modifier equal to your invocation caster level and a fixed AC.
The questions then, are how does this interact with: Spells, Items, Racial/Templates, etc.
For Spells: are these creatures considered to be ‘you’ for the purposes of targeting, or are they separate creatures? Do they benefit from ongoing buffs cast before they detach? Do they benefit from Buffs cast on the host body after detaching, or do they need to be targeted separately? Can a Crawling Eye activate an Ocular Spell? If so, can it only do so for one cast prior to detaching, or can you cast an Ocular Spell into a detached Crawling Eye?
For Items: are these creatures considered to be part of ‘you’ for item effects? I.e. if I have a Ring of Protection +1 on the non-Disembodied Hand does it get the Deflection Bonus? Does the Crawling Eye? If they count as separate creatures, do they have items slots (1/2 rings for the Hand, face/feet for the Eye)?
For Racial/Templates: do these creatures benefit from racial/template modifiers? E.g. if the host body is Dark template do the Eye and Hand benefit from the Hide and Move Silently bonuses (and thus have warlock level + template modifiers)?
I think that covers most of my questions. Anywhoo, any light that can be shed on these would be appreciated. I assume that most of these answers will be GM dependent and thus technically homebrew, but I was curious if there exist any RAW answers. Thanks!
~RaiKirah