sir_argo
2018-01-25, 11:07 AM
You can make an opportunity attack when a hostile creature that you can see moves out of your reach.
How obvious is it that a person can or will take an opportunity attack? I have two examples that demonstrate the issue.
Example #1 - is that guy hostile to me?
A = (anti)Paladin
B = Barbarian
C = Cleric
A and C are fighting each other and are in melee. B walks into the room and sees the fight. B knows A and has a vendetta against him. B and C have never met each other. B sees an opportunity to settle his vendetta against A and so he activates his rage ability, draws his great axe, and charges in recklessly. C looks over and sees a raging, reckless barbarian charging into combat. There is the roleplaying aspect of C wondering if this barbarian is hostile to him or not. B is not necessarily friendly to C, but not necessarily an enemy either. C is a little nervous and wants to shift away from B, but stay in melee with A. Player C asks, "If I move away from C, will he get an opportunity attack?" The DM responds, "You're not sure. He's raging, eyes wild, and he's swinging that axe like a mad man."
Player C says, "Well crap. I don't want him to get an opportunity attack. I want to move away, but if he is going to take an OA, then I'd like to stay put."
Should C know if B will take an opportunity attack if he moves away? If yes, then the premise would be that you can tell a person is hostile because he's actively engaging you versus only actively engaging someone else. But if that's so, then we have another problem which I'll cover in example 2.
Example #2 - the assassin
The party is engaging a group of orcs. Unknown to the party wizard, the rogue is an assassin that was hired to kill the wizard. During the fight, the wizard and rogue are standing next to each other behind the front line. The wizard goes to move in a way that would take him out of reach of the rogue. Would the rogue be able to take an opportunity attack against the wizard as he moves away? The crux of this example is whether "hostile" means actively engaged, or if it just means willing to harm. Another variation of this example would be if it was a gargoyle instead of a rogue. The party is fighting all of those orcs, and the wizard thinks he's just standing next to a statue. The wizard states his intent to move--would the gargoyle be able to reveal himself by taking an OA as the wizard moves away?
How obvious is it that a person can or will take an opportunity attack? I have two examples that demonstrate the issue.
Example #1 - is that guy hostile to me?
A = (anti)Paladin
B = Barbarian
C = Cleric
A and C are fighting each other and are in melee. B walks into the room and sees the fight. B knows A and has a vendetta against him. B and C have never met each other. B sees an opportunity to settle his vendetta against A and so he activates his rage ability, draws his great axe, and charges in recklessly. C looks over and sees a raging, reckless barbarian charging into combat. There is the roleplaying aspect of C wondering if this barbarian is hostile to him or not. B is not necessarily friendly to C, but not necessarily an enemy either. C is a little nervous and wants to shift away from B, but stay in melee with A. Player C asks, "If I move away from C, will he get an opportunity attack?" The DM responds, "You're not sure. He's raging, eyes wild, and he's swinging that axe like a mad man."
Player C says, "Well crap. I don't want him to get an opportunity attack. I want to move away, but if he is going to take an OA, then I'd like to stay put."
Should C know if B will take an opportunity attack if he moves away? If yes, then the premise would be that you can tell a person is hostile because he's actively engaging you versus only actively engaging someone else. But if that's so, then we have another problem which I'll cover in example 2.
Example #2 - the assassin
The party is engaging a group of orcs. Unknown to the party wizard, the rogue is an assassin that was hired to kill the wizard. During the fight, the wizard and rogue are standing next to each other behind the front line. The wizard goes to move in a way that would take him out of reach of the rogue. Would the rogue be able to take an opportunity attack against the wizard as he moves away? The crux of this example is whether "hostile" means actively engaged, or if it just means willing to harm. Another variation of this example would be if it was a gargoyle instead of a rogue. The party is fighting all of those orcs, and the wizard thinks he's just standing next to a statue. The wizard states his intent to move--would the gargoyle be able to reveal himself by taking an OA as the wizard moves away?