Mind Affecting Immunity B-Gone

[SangoProduction]

I while ago, I asked for help for combating mind-affecting immunity. Everyone said there was no cure to mind-affecting immunity. Well, today they are proven wrong.

There's Verdant Spell (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/metamagic-feats/verdant-spell-metamagic/), as well as the Threnodic Spell (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/metamagic-feats/threnodic-spell-metamagic/), which is insanely good for countering mind immunity. If they are of those types, you can affect them, regardless of their Mind Blank (or natural state of being).

Just kill them, raise them as the intelligent undead, and now you can simply control them.

[Malroth]

Is there any equivilent for Psionics? I'm running a Telepath who wants to get around the whole Immunity thing that affects 90% of his power list.

[Crake]

I while ago, I asked for help for combating mind-affecting immunity. Everyone said there was no cure to mind-affecting immunity. Well, today they are proven wrong.

There's Verdant Spell (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/metamagic-feats/verdant-spell-metamagic/), as well as the Threnodic Spell (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/metamagic-feats/threnodic-spell-metamagic/), which is insanely good for countering mind immunity. If they are of those types, you can affect them, regardless of their Mind Blank (or natural state of being).

Just kill them, raise them as the intelligent undead, and now you can simply control them.

You might be thinking about 3.5, because mind blank in pathfinder does not grant you immunity to mind affecting, simply a +8 resistance bonus (meaning it doesn't stack with cloaks of resistance) against mind-affecting spells. You do, however, retain your immunity to divinations, so that's still a thing, but yeah, no longer does mind blank cancel two schools of magic, just the one now.

[you randomly]

Is there any equivilent for Psionics? I'm running a Telepath who wants to get around the whole Immunity thing that affects 90% of his power list.

not with out using 3rd party to much knowledge, i think DSP has a power you can use to make you're next power by pass immunity to mind affecting

[Psyren]

I while ago, I asked for help for combating mind-affecting immunity. Everyone said there was no cure to mind-affecting immunity. Well, today they are proven wrong.

There's Verdant Spell (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/metamagic-feats/verdant-spell-metamagic/), as well as the Threnodic Spell (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/metamagic-feats/threnodic-spell-metamagic/), which is insanely good for countering mind immunity. If they are of those types, you can affect them, regardless of their Mind Blank (or natural state of being).

Just kill them, raise them as the intelligent undead, and now you can simply control them.

I'm not sure which "they" you're calling out exactly, but these are common knowledge in the PF RAW questions thread if you'd asked there. Also, you forgot Coaxing Spell. (https://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/metamagic-feats/coaxing-spell-metamagic/)

[ATHATH]

Can't Mesmerists also pierce immunities to mind-affecting stuff?

[Ellrin]

Can't Mesmerists also pierce immunities to mind-affecting stuff?

Psychic Inception, one of the options they can select for their stare class feature, lets mesmerists affect normally immune targets with their stare, and also lets them use mind-affecting spells on normally immune targets under the effects of his stare, though the target gets a +2 bonus on any saves and even if successfully affected, has a 50% chance of acting unaffected each round that the spell lasts. It may also not work on anything under a protection from x spell/effect.

It's a great ability for enchantment-based casters, but it still doesn't quite fix the problem of how easily the school is nullfied.

[Florian]

Sango, I think you didn't understand the answer back then. Enchantment tends to be the Save or Die school, you can do it with the right meta magic (rods), the right primary and supporting feats, combination of race, class, archetype and PrC. Do all of that and it is really powerful. Thing is, now compare that level of investment to what you can achieve in other areas and it becomes "useless" in comparison.