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magicalmagicman
2018-02-08, 08:47 PM
Here's a pic
http://classic.battle.net/war3/undead/units/infernal.shtml

Note that I said Warcraft III and NOT WORLD OF WARCRAFT

All the constructs I could find weren't immolating with unholy fire.

DrMotives
2018-02-08, 08:56 PM
I was going to suggest Sickstone Golem (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/fw/20021123a), but it has a weird shape. Have you considered just a normal stone golem with permanent unholy fire shield? The little tinkers that your players don't even need to know are fantastic.

magicalmagicman
2018-02-08, 09:06 PM
I was going to suggest Sickstone Golem (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/fw/20021123a), but it has a weird shape. Have you considered just a normal stone golem with permanent unholy fire shield? The little tinkers that your players don't even need to know are fantastic.

Fire shield does wreath the Stone Golem in fire but... it doesn't add fire damage to his fists, and it can't be permanencied.

DrMotives
2018-02-08, 09:38 PM
Fire shield does wreath the Stone Golem in fire but... it doesn't add fire damage to his fists, and it can't be permanencied.

You do it as a constant effect from a magic item. Constructs are magic items as well as creatures, so this is a case where the golem can have a constant unholy fire shield added, and the flaming property can be added to fists, following normal enchantment rules.

magicalmagicman
2018-02-08, 09:43 PM
You do it as a constant effect from a magic item. Constructs are magic items as well as creatures, so this is a case where the golem can have a constant unholy fire shield added, and the flaming property can be added to fists, following normal enchantment rules.

I read that you can add flaming property to natural weapons, but constant effect is custom magic item right? DM says NO to this due to the abuse custom magic items bring.

But you might be on the right track... I guess it's time to comb the MiC to see if there's an item that gives off a perpetual immolation effect.

Thurbane
2018-02-08, 09:55 PM
Not a Construct, but Ember Guard (MM5) seems like a good fit. Maybe you can give it a template to make it a Construct?

http://archive.wizards.com/dnd/images/MM5_Gallery/106295.jpg

tadkins
2018-02-08, 10:04 PM
I asked this same question a while back and was told that a Fiendish Earth Elemental would be the way to go. Not sure how you'd get the fire shield on 'em though.

magicalmagicman
2018-02-08, 10:15 PM
Not a Construct, but Ember Guard (MM5) seems like a good fit. Maybe you can give it a template to make it a Construct?

http://archive.wizards.com/dnd/images/MM5_Gallery/106295.jpg

They are a perfect fit!

But I've wandered away from planar binding because of the sheer amount of hate that spell receives. Not to mention it comes online mid levels making the early game unbearable.

And now I'm getting drawn back to it because of this guy!

Effigy and Elder Eidlon Template doesn't work because it's outsider...

Is there a template I can use?

Oooh, just imagining running a planar binding aasimar with infernal bargainer... level 10 is when I start enjoying my character... so much pain...

Actually with what I learned with artificers, I could probably enjoy my character starting at level 7, but it's pushed back to 8 because I need to be an aasimar to grab infernal bargainer.

ksbsnowowl
2018-02-09, 08:16 AM
Monster Manual V's Magmacore Golem?

http://archive.wizards.com/dnd/images/MM5_Gallery/106305.jpg

magicalmagicman
2018-02-09, 04:29 PM
Monster Manual V's Magmacore Golem?

Nice.

It has the metal and fire covered, but it doesn't have the dark glowy part covered XD. Maybe if I photoshop the metal black :P

PrismCat21
2018-02-09, 05:50 PM
Nice.

It has the metal and fire covered, but it doesn't have the dark glowy part covered XD. Maybe if I photoshop the metal black :P

Are you just looking for pictures? If so, just use the picture of an infernal. Don't spend forever looking for a hard solution when a simple solution works just as well, or better.

If you want the monster stats to go with it, just 'fluff' the appearance. Use the picture of the infernal.

magicalmagicman
2018-02-09, 09:23 PM
Are you just looking for pictures? If so, just use the picture of an infernal. Don't spend forever looking for a hard solution when a simple solution works just as well, or better.

If you want the monster stats to go with it, just 'fluff' the appearance. Use the picture of the infernal.

Molten Core Golem fails because it's weak as hell.

You can't just fluff willy nilly, at least not in my DM's game. Stone Golems you can because it explicitly says you can make it look like anything you want. Same with Iron Golems as long as they're hollow. Both still don't immolate with fire though so I can't just use the picture of an infernal.

I wish I did play in a table where I can just fluff willy nilly.

ShurikVch
2018-02-10, 06:22 AM
Note: Warcraft the RPG (d20 tabletop adaptation) have the Infernal in the Manual of Monsters - Large Construct, 16 HD, CR 12

How about the Hellfire Golem from the Fiend Folio?
http://archive.wizards.com/dnd/images/ff_gallery/50078.jpg

Also, there is Coal Devil (Dragon #306):
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tzg--cE91EQ/WGRwHQzh_RI/AAAAAAAAKiE/QpTlUV1VGcwZxP8X-juUJ0K5nysURq2MQCLcB/s320/devilcoal.jpg
(8 HD, CR 7)

And Magma Paraelemental Monolith (Dragon #347):
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-g5sWG0z52mY/V-XvEvOlYaI/AAAAAAAAJLs/tBmNV3oVzC8aLG9uHNbfOMfJdhklkF7xgCLcB/s1600/373magmamonolith.jpg
(36 HD, CR 17)