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Pinjata
2018-03-01, 03:45 AM
http://cdn-static.denofgeek.com/sites/denofgeek/files/styles/main_wide/public/wonder-woman-2_184.jpg?itok=Uj23TH8h
So, this girl. I'm thinking of making a setting where she is the only god and tyrant in the setting. Basically I love how her values are set up and I wonder, how would her evil incarnation would look like(Like Venom for Spiderman). Basically, what would be her goals, what would world look like? She is a god, but it seems amazons had very few ideas that could be perverted. What I find interesting about this character is, she would probably not go full Sauron, but be far more specific and interesting.

What do you have for me, playground? :)

Koo Rehtorb
2018-03-01, 03:47 AM
Humans are weak and corrupt and will destroy themselves if given the chance. They must be strictly controlled to save them from themselves and dissent must be ruthlessly stomped out.

Grod_The_Giant
2018-03-01, 07:04 AM
The "Amazons Attack" crossover was pretty bad, but there might be some ideas worth mining. As for me... in my mind, Wonder Woman is all about the balance between peace and war, diplomat and fighter, and the inherent contradiction in fighting for peace. An evil version, I'd say, would have that balance skewed towards "war." Someone whose first reaction to being challenged is violence, someone who will kill those who step out of line, and--perhaps most importantly-- someone who will lead others to do the same thing.

khadgar567
2018-03-01, 07:11 AM
The "Amazons Attack" crossover was pretty bad, but there might be some ideas worth mining. As for me... in my mind, Wonder Woman is all about the balance between peace and war, diplomat and fighter, and the inherent contradiction in fighting for peace. An evil version, I'd say, would have that balance skewed towards "war." Someone whose first reaction to being challenged is violence, someone who will kill those who step out of line, and--perhaps most importantly-- someone who will lead others to do the same thing.
so kinda not much changes in her personality but she might be more direct on batman thus she probably sleeps with him and we have rehash of son of batman plot in our hands.

jojo
2018-03-01, 07:13 AM
The "Amazons Attack" crossover was pretty bad, but there might be some ideas worth mining. As for me... in my mind, Wonder Woman is all about the balance between peace and war, diplomat and fighter, and the inherent contradiction in fighting for peace. An evil version, I'd say, would have that balance skewed towards "war." Someone whose first reaction to being challenged is violence, someone who will kill those who step out of line, and--perhaps most importantly-- someone who will lead others to do the same thing.

That's an interesting take. I'd actually lean in the opposite direction in that an "Evil" Wonder Woman would be more about "Peace at any Price" without any regard for morality or ethics. As such I'd expect her to simply side with the majority opinion in any given side and use her powers to aid them in stamping out the minority opinion. In such a role I'd see her stepping in to use her influence to trick and manipulate the minority into taking lopsided deals under the false impression that the goddess is on their side. Further I'd really see her as being little more than a tool, there'd be a couple of big bad tyrannical governments who'd pay lip service to her leadership while remaining confident in the knowledge that no matter what she'll side with them simply for the sake of expedience.

Grod_The_Giant
2018-03-01, 07:31 AM
That's an interesting take. I'd actually lean in the opposite direction in that an "Evil" Wonder Woman would be more about "Peace at any Price" without any regard for morality or ethics. As such I'd expect her to simply side with the majority opinion in any given side and use her powers to aid them in stamping out the minority opinion. In such a role I'd see her stepping in to use her influence to trick and manipulate the minority into taking lopsided deals under the false impression that the goddess is on their side. Further I'd really see her as being little more than a tool, there'd be a couple of big bad tyrannical governments who'd pay lip service to her leadership while remaining confident in the knowledge that no matter what she'll side with them simply for the sake of expedience.
Also interesting. I like the idea of stamping out minority rebellions in the name of "peace," regardless of morality, but I don't like her being demoted to "little more than a tool." Too much of her character is bound up in being a leader and an inspiration; letting her get pushed around so easily by the opinions of others seems like a betrayal.

Psyren
2018-03-01, 09:16 AM
We actually know the answer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFpv1wOwRnA) to this. (Sorry I had to)

khadgar567
2018-03-01, 09:23 AM
We actually know the answer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFpv1wOwRnA) to this. (Sorry I had to)
okay i prefer to miss that plot because its just stupid to stupit to worth comic page.

CharonsHelper
2018-03-01, 09:52 AM
Wasn't there a Robot Chicken bit with Reverse Wonder Woman?

khadgar567
2018-03-01, 10:21 AM
Wasn't there a Robot Chicken bit with Reverse Wonder Woman?
probably in the link shared by psyren

2D8HP
2018-03-01, 10:41 AM
Sufficient VITAL RESEARCH leads my to conclude that Evil Wonder Women would wear:

black leather,

spikes,

black lipstick,

lots of eyeshadow (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ExcessiveEvil),

and may have spikier and/or shorter hair.

To illustrate the difference,

here's Willow:

https://media1.popsugar-assets.com/files/thumbor/PTiYrUdEDUOWSCW3nMGKUJg1ASs/fit-in/728xorig/filters:format_auto-!!-:strip_icc-!!-/2014/06/27/944/n/1922507/421d604780bfbfa9_thumb_temp_cover_file350949221403 895045/i/Joss-Whedon-Geek-Girls.jpg

here's Evil Willow:

https://godardsletterboxes.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/123945__buffy_l.jpg

This is basic stuff people!

Faily
2018-03-01, 11:30 AM
Evil Wonder Woman...

Basically, do the same they did for Superman in the Injustice-storyline. A very "peace at any price" kind of thinking. Basically become a tyrant to create world peace and stability.

Lapak
2018-03-01, 11:56 AM
Invert the order of operations on her mission-statement line:

Don’t wound if you can kill.
Don’t subdue if you can wound.
Don’t pacify if you can subdue.
And don’t strive for peace until war has failed.

Raphite1
2018-03-01, 01:59 PM
Just like Wonder Woman but with a goatee.

HurinSmite
2018-03-01, 02:08 PM
In the Comic world there's also Superwoman from "Crisis on Two Earths", another world's opposite of Wonder Woman.

Superwoman:
https://comicbookjesus.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/sw_04.jpg?w=300&h=168

As I remember her she's presented as a sadist (she has a thorned whip or something instead of a lasso in comic to back that up I think), fierce lover, lover of destruction for destruction's sake.

Kitten Champion
2018-03-01, 02:29 PM
Marvel did this in a few iterations with Zarda Shelton (http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Zarda_Shelton_(Earth-712))- Power Princess - who is the dark Wonder Woman expy from Squadron Supreme, a group created to have crossover fights with the Justice League without the IP issues.

Basically, she takes the ambassador from a hidden utopia of superhuman beings angle - with that unmatched power and idealism - but her motives after meeting her version of Steve Trevor and experiencing WW2 turn her towards creating a fascist world order where everyone must adhere to her people's values and ideology as they've clearly proven themselves to be superior to the conflict-ridden history of the outside world.

Looks like this

https://wallscover.com/images/power-princess-wallpaper-10.jpg

zimmerwald1915
2018-03-01, 02:33 PM
There's also her Justice Lords counterpart (https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/dcanimated/images/c/c5/LordWonderWoman.png/revision/latest?cb=20151010115632) from JLU to consider.

Vizzerdrix
2018-03-01, 04:08 PM
Too much of her character is bound up

I see what you did thar:smallwink:

I think she would be more of a conqueror. Someone more interested in "liberating" people by spreading a darker version of the amazonian beliefs and growing their boarders.

Arbane
2018-03-01, 06:16 PM
In the Comic world there's also Superwoman from "Crisis on Two Earths", another world's opposite of Wonder Woman.

Superwoman:
https://comicbookjesus.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/sw_04.jpg?w=300&h=168

As I remember her she's presented as a sadist (she has a thorned whip or something instead of a lasso in comic to back that up I think), fierce lover, lover of destruction for destruction's sake.

Actually (at least is the JLU cartoon), Superwoman is Evil Mary Marvel. O_o

As for Evil Wonder Woman? I'm instantly reminded of Phil Foglio's line about 'A matriarchy as imagined by a man who's just gone through a painful divorce.' :smallbiggrin:

KillianHawkeye
2018-03-01, 08:47 PM
She'd be blonde, obviously! :smallamused::smallbiggrin:

Red Fel
2018-03-02, 09:58 AM
Wonder Woman's whole mission is to promote the virtue of love and compassion. An evil Wonder Woman would, obviously, want to denounce the evils of truth and love.

Wonder Woman also fights for freedom alongside the Justice League. Clearly, an evil Wonder Woman would be the inverse of this, seeking to extend her reach to the stars above.

Evil Wonder Woman, for your consideration:

https://pm1.narvii.com/5874/f800af9263a8fa4f13a72e4ddc81c2b057b20400_128.jpg
Also, Wonder Woman is remarkably competent. Evil Wonder Woman, shown above...

denthor
2018-03-02, 10:38 AM
Wonder Woman's whole mission is to promote the virtue of love and compassion. An evil Wonder Woman would, obviously, want to denounce the evils of truth and love.

Wonder Woman also fights for freedom alongside the Justice League. Clearly, an evil Wonder Woman would be the inverse of this, seeking to extend her reach to the stars above.

Evil Wonder Woman, for your consideration:

https://pm1.narvii.com/5874/f800af9263a8fa4f13a72e4ddc81c2b057b20400_128.jpg
Also, Wonder Woman is remarkably competent. Evil Wonder Woman, shown above...


Red Fel why is your Avatar drooling?

dps
2018-03-02, 10:03 PM
She'd look pretty much like the regular Wonder Woman, but with an even skimpier but much darker colored costume.

2D8HP
2018-03-02, 10:16 PM
Red Fel why is your Avatar drooling?



She'd look pretty much like the regular Wonder Woman, but with an even skimpier but much darker colored costume.


Well, that escalated quickly.

I approve.

FabulousFizban
2018-03-02, 10:47 PM
crime syndicate superwoman is what you're after. all of Diana's passion, bent selfishly instead of selflessly.

Friv
2018-03-04, 01:38 PM
So, taking a slightly different route, since you said "like Venom to Spiderman" - Venom has the same goals as Spiderman (save the innocent) but taken to unpleasant and cruel extremes.

So a tyrannical Wonder Woman fights for peace and unity, but with no relenting, no mercy, no second chances. She demands absolute loyalty, and gives absolute loyalty in return. She will never betray or abandon her soldiers, but expects them to understand that the mission always comes first, and she will crush any dissent without pause and treat betrayal with murder. She is the most dangerous kind of villain, because she isn't a sadist - she will simply kill you and move on.

Tvtyrant
2018-03-04, 05:13 PM
I'd say bizzaro Wonderwoman is a religious fanatic. She worships the gods in the comic books, but as symbols for people to look up to and not as salvation deities. Evil Wonderwoman could easily be into forced conversion, the destruction of "false" religions, and maybe even dream of killing the New Gods so Zeuss can reclaim the universe for the old.

Obsessed with dogma and ritual, she disdains cultural and technological change. Diana's approach has been remarkably effective, establishing cults that praise the Greek pantheon and embrace a Spartan lifestyle.

She has yet to make a true enemy of the Justice League, acting as a hero personally while giving interviews espousing her church and accepting billions in donations. Privately her cults and connections to the League of Shadows puts her at odds with Batman, while her interference in politics has led to harsh words with Superman.

TheYell
2018-03-04, 06:37 PM
She'd wear an ankle length hooded cloak that totally concealed her figure.

Not sure that's evil but it's no fun.