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Allstar
2018-03-01, 01:00 PM
After looking through the 'Spellcaster DB' and the 'Things that grant feats' list (which I don't think is complete) I've not found what I'm looking for. I am a divine caster, around level 10.

What I need:
One class or PrC with Full BAB, one or more +1 CLs and a bonus feat (fighter list would be good.)

Ideally all within 1-3 class levels. 1 Brilliant, 2 good.

WotC preferred, Dragon Magazine OK, setting books are all right.

Can't say too much as I know the other players of my party browse here and there is a little PvP occasionally. (I don't like it but I'm also not going to tell them what I have 'up my sleeve'.)

ApologyFestival
2018-03-01, 01:34 PM
Ordained Champion (Complete Champion, page 90) fits the bill if you are a cleric or otherwise have domains, and fulfil the strict entry requirements or have a DM willing to waive them. The deity restriction especially is pointlessly restrictive.

Telonius
2018-03-01, 01:44 PM
Sacred Fist gets BAB and caster levels, though not the bonus feat.

RaiKirah
2018-03-01, 02:10 PM
Sounds like a perfect fit for Spellsword if you want exactly your minimum requirements

Edit: I didn't see Divine requirement in OP, whoops!

TotallyNotEvil
2018-03-01, 03:07 PM
If you can convince your DM to swing for divine casting instead of arcane, Eldritch Knight is pretty much what you are looking for. Two levels gives +2 BAB, +1 caster level and 1 bonus feat.

Segev
2018-03-01, 03:12 PM
Prestige Paladin (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/classes/prestigiousCharacterClasses.htm#prestigePaladin) gives the BAB and casting.

Prestige Ranger (right below it) might also work. The requirements eat feats, though, so that probably won't help.

Ruathar from the Races of the Wild book might work? I think it has +1 CL for two of its three levels and a full BAB.

Hugh Mann
2018-03-01, 03:37 PM
If your character is a cleric with the Spell domain, then it can cast Anyspell which can let you prepare the spell Heroics in your level 3 domain slot. Heroics basically lets you gain a fighter bonus feat for 10 minutes per caster level. If you need the feat multiple times a day then invest in pearls of power.

Xethik
2018-03-01, 03:42 PM
Ruathar from the Races of the Wild book might work? I think it has +1 CL for two of its three levels and a full BAB.
Ruathar is 3/4 BAB IIRC, but full casting levels.

Thurbane
2018-03-01, 04:51 PM
Knight of the Raven is a good divine PrC (full BAB, 9/10 casting, raven harrier); it grants a couple of bonus feats over the 10 levels, but these are set feats and focused on defending against undead attacks. Also grants the Sun domain.

Can be found in Expedition to Castle Ravenloft.

Segev
2018-03-01, 05:16 PM
What about Ruby Knight Vindicator? Been a while since I looked at it, but IIRC it's a martial adept PrC that advances fighting and divine casting. Probably full BAB? At least half casting? Not sure about feats.

flappeercraft
2018-03-01, 05:20 PM
Eldritch Knight works, while it is not the best class it is good enough.

DrMotives
2018-03-01, 05:23 PM
Human Paragon.

****Edit***
Nevermind, that doesn't have full BAB, only 3/4

Segev
2018-03-01, 05:26 PM
Eldritch Knight works, while it is not the best class it is good enough.

Doesn't quite, unless it can be refluffed as Divine Knight, because the OP needs divine casting, not arcane casting.

Troacctid
2018-03-01, 06:24 PM
Prestige Class
Source


Battlepriest of Cormyr
D307


Dragon Slayer
Dr


Fochlucan Lyrist
CAd (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ex/20050107a&page=2)


Green Hunter
D294


Hexer
MW


Knight of the Rose
DCS


Prestige Paladin
UA (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/classes/prestigiousCharacterClasses.htm#prestigePaladin)


Sacred Fist
CD


Scourge Maiden
ShS


Silverhair Knight
D315


Thrall of Demogorgon
BV/D357


Thrall of Eltab
CR


Thrall of Orcus
BV


Verdant Lord
MW


Windwalker
FP



^ Every prestige class that has full BAB and advances divine spellcasting at 1st level.



Prestige Class
Source


Battleguard of Tempus
D317


Cyran Avenger
FN (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/iw/20050707b&page=2)


Deadgrim
MoE


Doomlord
PlH (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ex/20040706a&page=3)


Exorcist of the Silver Flame
ECS


Fist of Raziel
BE


Fochlucan Lyrist
CAd (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ex/20050107a&page=2)


Gray Guard
CS


Gray Hand Enforcer
CSW


Hexer
MW


Hospitaler
CD


Impure Prince
MoE


Knight of the Raven
Rav


Knight of the Rose
DCS


Moon Guardian
CD Web (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/we/20040522a)


Ordained Champion
CC


Platinum Knight
Dr


Prestige Ranger
UA (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/classes/prestigiousCharacterClasses.htm#prestigeRanger)


Ruby Knight Vindicator
ToB


Sacred Fist
CD


Sacred Warder of Bahamut
Dr


Sanctified Mind
LoM


Scion of Tem-Et-Nu
Sa


Shark Cultist
D315


Shining Blade of Heironeous
CD


Skylord
BE


Swanmay
BE


Tiger Mask
D300


Topaz Guardian
LoM


Triadic Knight
CoV


Unholy Ravager of Tiamat
Dr


Vengeance Sworn
D296


Verdant Lord
MW


Warpriest
CD


Windwalker
FP


Witch Hunter
OA/D318



^ Ditto for 2nd level.

Obviously they don't all give bonus feats, but hopefully this helps narrow your search!

flappeercraft
2018-03-01, 06:31 PM
Doesn't quite, unless it can be refluffed as Divine Knight, because the OP needs divine casting, not arcane casting.

Ah crap, missed that. Just ignore what I posted.I guess that's what happens when you don't sleep for 23 hours. In that case I would second Ordained Champion, my next alternative being RKV.

Allstar
2018-03-03, 11:52 AM
Ordained Champion (Complete Champion, page 90) fits the bill if you are a cleric or otherwise have domains, and fulfil the strict entry requirements or have a DM willing to waive them. The deity restriction especially is pointlessly restrictive.

This would pair with 'Battleguard of Tempus' interestingly. Swap the power of the Army Domain, however to take the class you need the War domain access at which point you don't need BoT.



Prestige Paladin (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/classes/prestigiousCharacterClasses.htm#prestigePaladin) gives the BAB and casting.

Prestige Ranger (right below it) might also work. The requirements eat feats, though, so that probably won't help.

Good little dips, the Ranger one especially; meets all criteria but difficult without swapping a level or two to get Track and Endurance. TWF could be from Dread Pirate 1 suppose, but ick for two caster level misses. I also like that you can add Ranger spells to the list of an existing caster class.



Knight of the Raven is a good divine PrC (full BAB, 9/10 casting, raven harrier); it grants a couple of bonus feats over the 10 levels, but these are set feats and focused on defending against undead attacks. Also grants the Sun domain.
I like this, not easily found.





= TABLE =

^ Every prestige class that has full BAB and advances divine spellcasting at 1st level.

= TABLE =

^ Ditto for 2nd level.



Nice broad result. You missed Sanctified Mind off these lists. (I used the same resource.)

Thank you all for help and/or suggestions.


Having full BAB and one more more +1 CLs I've additionally found:

Citadel Elite (PrC Eb: Sharn City of Towers) which is taunting me with Caster Level OR Bonus feat at level 2 and 4.
Battle Dancer (PrC in Dark Sun setting. Also a Base Class in DragComp.) - Bonus feat @ 4, CL+1 @ 2 and 4.
Templar of the Scale (PrC in Dark Sun setting.)
Yellow Robe (PrC in Dark Sun setting.) has fighter, item creation or metamagic feat at 2nd.

Segev
2018-03-03, 09:48 PM
Be sure to let us know what you go with! We'll be suffering interminable curiosity, otherwise!