Fiend of Possession at 3th lv.

[Greenflame133]

This is a rather interesting cheese. Fist pick race with no AL or RHD. For example a gnome or dream dwarf. They apply a pseudo natural template found it complet arcade. It gives you some benefits but more importantly changes your type to outsider. How all we need is evil suptype. All you need to do is get in contact with Demon graf machine and get your self a Fiendish Familiar. Now all you need is dip into 2 classes with good will saves
Such as Marshall, Warlock, Dragonfire adept/shaman or what not. Don't metter too much but it's nice to get some SU usable with possessing.

I'm not big into optimization so I can't say how exactly maximize power but Find of Possession alone should land this build perry hight in terms of power, right?

[flappeercraft]

There are a couple problems with this. To begin with the Pseudonatural template is not a LA+0 template, rather a LA - template, meaning it is not meant for PC's but actually more as a plot device or other DM stuff in general. Second, from the Fiendish Familiar you do not acquire the Evil subtype.

Instead, what could be done is taking the Otherworldly feat from PGtF for the Outsider Type and the Ritual of Alignment from Savage Species for the earliest possible entry but that is a rather well known trick for accessing FoP.

[Greenflame133]

Oh, so this is how it is. I was aware of ritual of alignment but cost and DC made it far from accessable on really lvs. As far as I remember just being Abyssal maw was more optimal

[Troacctid]

The better way is to just be a Mulhorandi Divine Minion of Sebek, which makes you an evil outsider for only +1 LA.

[Greenflame133]

Dosn't divine minion make you stuck in one plane?

[Troacctid]

No, it lets you wild shape into a crocodile.

[Crake]

The better way is to just be a Mulhorandi Divine Minion of Sebek, which makes you an evil outsider for only +1 LA.

Divine minion changes existing alignment subtypes to match your deity, but if you lack alignment subtypes to begin with, you don't gain any:


Size and Type: The creature's type changes to outsider, and any alignment subtypes it has changes to match the corresponding alignment subtypes of its deity.

[ShurikVch]

The earliest possible entry is: select LA +0 Outsider race - such as Glimmerfolk or Neraph (Otherworldly feat works too, but, being regional feat, is heavily restricted); cast Demonic Blood Infusion from the Ghostwalk WE. Done!



There are a couple problems with this. To begin with the Pseudonatural template is not a LA+0 template, rather a LA - template, meaning it is not meant for PC's but actually more as a plot device or other DM stuff in general.Pseudonatural is LA +4 in the Manual of the Planes

Instead, what could be done is taking the Otherworldly feat from PGtF for the Outsider Type and the Ritual of Alignment from Savage Species for the earliest possible entry but that is a rather well known trick for accessing FoP.Ritual of Alignment costs 56000 gp. It's 10th or 11th level of WbL

[Greenflame133]

Demonic Blood Infusion won't work it only grants alignment for it's Duration, an 1 hour/level and can be ended with banished and simular effects.

[ShurikVch]

Demonic Blood Infusion won't work it only grants alignment for it's Duration, an 1 hour/level and can be ended with banished and simular effects.Unlike the base classes or feats, Prestige Classes aren't obliged to satisfy Requirements all the time
(Ur-Priest, notably, disqualify itself at the very 1st level)
If such mess is exist, then what's wrong with qualifying via spell effect?
After all, "Requirements" part says: "To qualify to become..." So, if you're already became, you mustn't satisfy the Requirements anymore (after all, there are no "Ex-Fiends of Possession" :smallwink:)

[flappeercraft]

The earliest possible entry is: select LA +0 Outsider race - such as Glimmerfolk or Neraph (Otherworldly feat works too, but, being regional feat, is heavily restricted); cast Demonic Blood Infusion from the Ghostwalk WE. Done!


Pseudonatural is LA +4 in the Manual of the Planes
Ritual of Alignment costs 56000 gp. It's 10th or 11th level of WbL
Didn't know it was on MotP but as far as CArc is concerned, the one referred to here it is a -.
Well yes but breaking WBL isn't a new trick.