Thaneus
2018-04-13, 03:19 AM
Hi Guys,
more of a general question typ thing for roleplaying a situation in which I and my mate got a bit stuck.
We are facing a large scale crysis and the Emperor already gave our group full fledged authority to work in his and country name to ask allied and non allied nobles or ppl of influence to assist in a defending war against a demonic force nearly overpowering force.
We now have 5 month time to get as much help as possible to assist in this challenge and prepare.
We already acquired means to fast travel the continent for the system in which we are playing.
The Emperor already stated martial law and all nobels of the empire send the required troops for their status as demanded by feudal rights; since it is a german system I am not sure if I translate the rade of nobility correct in englisch but they are:
Owning Nobels (german Freiherr; least nobility which owns land from feudal contract; most just have some villages and scarcely 1 town) -> needs to send 12ppl; about ~200 in the empire
Baron; owning about 1 town and some villages; consisting of at least 5 parts of a owning noble -> need to send 50ppl | ~80
Grave and Markgrave (Graf, Markgraf; land consist on about 3-5 barons) -> needs to send 150ppl | ~16
Duke (Herzog und Fürst; mayor ruler in the Empire) -> needs to send 500 | 5
King (one King who is not the Emperor himself is in the Empire) -> needs to send 1200 | 1
Emperor himself has 2000 ppl
One 5th of the country was already overrun, one duke is dead and nearly all his feudal subjects and peasants (rest fled) so forces are already down to at least 4/5th
just to let you know about the numbers we are on which this runs here.
Now we had the situation in which we already had some successes in talking with a duke and a grave who had personal connection to our group anyway, so easy catch and they agreed to go the "extra mile" and send some personal troops and recruit some more ppl from the populace; so major victory for thous (which we did in 2 days).
3rd day we face a grave who is also first chamber judge of the empire (the guys who come together to punish nobels or royals for treason) and he stated:
"I gave what I needed to and further would threaten my subjects and stability of my lands." He also added some valid arguments.
We tried to convince about the urgency and the possibility to just shift some resources around, but he stayed rock solid (well he is dwarf... a typical one at this). The free resources he has are for refugees or if something goes awry in the next month (bad harvest and stuff) which we concluded... he is a bit too secure at this, but has a point.
Since we, the players have no further arguments we compromised to just go with a bit of advertisement to get the "free" ppl who are not his direct subjects... which we felt rather dissatisfied with but better then nothing coming from the prior 2 successes.
Does anyone have valid ideas how to face are argument again suche ppl? He is not a bad guy since he is a trusted subject of the emperor with a high standing as a first chamber judge and we didnt feel any ill intend from him (he was just a tad annoyed, but still ok because of our status; well we wont be friends...) and we feel coming back wont do any good but I want to prepare since we will also go to neighboring country which are not in the Empire to ask for assistance and there we will face more resistance for sure...
From skill point of view:
My Charakter is practical a ultra high diplomancer, a noble (without land), has nearly every bonus in social interaction. Highest charisma mortally possible (highest mortlal can have 24; I have 26), a permanent "buff" on which attitudes toward me is always +1 but GM needs valid points to let me roll it (which is always a auto success anyway).
Additionally my character has "sense motive" even higher to check what ppl think or are up to.
Only 2 ppl blocked this ability and both had been Arch-vampires... (there is not much above thous guys in the system)
Yes magic is at the table but also there is anti-magic or detection magic, it is know which character can cast spells and how and if the nobels have any kind of detection artifact.... well... they can defend, which we want to prevent at all costs (as you know we have more important matter at hand) so no charming, dominating mind reading, dream manipulating...
Advice appreciated.
more of a general question typ thing for roleplaying a situation in which I and my mate got a bit stuck.
We are facing a large scale crysis and the Emperor already gave our group full fledged authority to work in his and country name to ask allied and non allied nobles or ppl of influence to assist in a defending war against a demonic force nearly overpowering force.
We now have 5 month time to get as much help as possible to assist in this challenge and prepare.
We already acquired means to fast travel the continent for the system in which we are playing.
The Emperor already stated martial law and all nobels of the empire send the required troops for their status as demanded by feudal rights; since it is a german system I am not sure if I translate the rade of nobility correct in englisch but they are:
Owning Nobels (german Freiherr; least nobility which owns land from feudal contract; most just have some villages and scarcely 1 town) -> needs to send 12ppl; about ~200 in the empire
Baron; owning about 1 town and some villages; consisting of at least 5 parts of a owning noble -> need to send 50ppl | ~80
Grave and Markgrave (Graf, Markgraf; land consist on about 3-5 barons) -> needs to send 150ppl | ~16
Duke (Herzog und Fürst; mayor ruler in the Empire) -> needs to send 500 | 5
King (one King who is not the Emperor himself is in the Empire) -> needs to send 1200 | 1
Emperor himself has 2000 ppl
One 5th of the country was already overrun, one duke is dead and nearly all his feudal subjects and peasants (rest fled) so forces are already down to at least 4/5th
just to let you know about the numbers we are on which this runs here.
Now we had the situation in which we already had some successes in talking with a duke and a grave who had personal connection to our group anyway, so easy catch and they agreed to go the "extra mile" and send some personal troops and recruit some more ppl from the populace; so major victory for thous (which we did in 2 days).
3rd day we face a grave who is also first chamber judge of the empire (the guys who come together to punish nobels or royals for treason) and he stated:
"I gave what I needed to and further would threaten my subjects and stability of my lands." He also added some valid arguments.
We tried to convince about the urgency and the possibility to just shift some resources around, but he stayed rock solid (well he is dwarf... a typical one at this). The free resources he has are for refugees or if something goes awry in the next month (bad harvest and stuff) which we concluded... he is a bit too secure at this, but has a point.
Since we, the players have no further arguments we compromised to just go with a bit of advertisement to get the "free" ppl who are not his direct subjects... which we felt rather dissatisfied with but better then nothing coming from the prior 2 successes.
Does anyone have valid ideas how to face are argument again suche ppl? He is not a bad guy since he is a trusted subject of the emperor with a high standing as a first chamber judge and we didnt feel any ill intend from him (he was just a tad annoyed, but still ok because of our status; well we wont be friends...) and we feel coming back wont do any good but I want to prepare since we will also go to neighboring country which are not in the Empire to ask for assistance and there we will face more resistance for sure...
From skill point of view:
My Charakter is practical a ultra high diplomancer, a noble (without land), has nearly every bonus in social interaction. Highest charisma mortally possible (highest mortlal can have 24; I have 26), a permanent "buff" on which attitudes toward me is always +1 but GM needs valid points to let me roll it (which is always a auto success anyway).
Additionally my character has "sense motive" even higher to check what ppl think or are up to.
Only 2 ppl blocked this ability and both had been Arch-vampires... (there is not much above thous guys in the system)
Yes magic is at the table but also there is anti-magic or detection magic, it is know which character can cast spells and how and if the nobels have any kind of detection artifact.... well... they can defend, which we want to prevent at all costs (as you know we have more important matter at hand) so no charming, dominating mind reading, dream manipulating...
Advice appreciated.