Blind_Prophet
2018-04-26, 01:45 PM
Hey forum peoples hoping for some help with my battle herald,both with build ideas and making sure it's PFS Legal as well as a few other questions.
I'm somewhat trying to recreate a character I had way back when I played 4th edition....if anyone has played 4e the build was usually referred to as a "Lazylord"
It was all about giving your allies the upperhand in any given situation (mostly by granting buffs and bonus actions) without actually doing much yourself although with the right build you could tank as well.
Battle Herald is the closest I've found to "Pure Support" in pathfinder that isn't just "I continue singing and miss my xbow shot again" (the former being the more important part :P)
Anyways on to my build plans so far:
Level wise ATM I'm thinking of either doing Cavalier2/Exemplar Brawler3/Battle HeraldX or Cavalier1/Exemplar Brawler 5/Battle HeraldX (open to other classes,etc.)....reasoning for exemplar over bard is primarily martial flexibility as it would allow me to swap in whatever teamwork feat was appropriate at the time (although some tips of how to manage that many feats would be helpful, currently just got them stuck in a word document) but the Full BAB and higher HD is nice as well, the loss of spellcasting is meh since it would be very little anyways & frankly it suits my "feel" for the character better anyways.
2 Cavalier vs. 5 Brawler: Basically Lvl 2 order ability vs. field instruction. Main question here is how does field instruction interact with tactician I doesn't mention them stacking so i assume they don't but does that grant me two "pools" for sharing teamwork feats and does battle heralds "voice of authority" advance field instruction or just tactician. Oh and since VOA advances tactician does it also grant me "greater tactician" at level 9 (combined BH and Cav)
Orders: Current likes are Eel, Cockatrice, Dragon, Flame, Scales
just worried about some of the Edicts (except cockatrice it basically translate to "Be a PC"), I avoid Paladins like the plague in society as I find GMs tend to be very strict about "The code".
The limited races also make things a bit difficult and my usual go to Gnome or Halfling are no good with their penalty to strength and small size (Despite the inspiration of the "lazylord" I do intend to hit things, likely with a polearm of some sort) Human would likely be optimal but I prefer not to be as I already play a Level 32 Male Human Gamer :P
Speaking of Polearms, there's lots of talk about the "banner of kings" two questions...can i get that in PFS and when the flag/banner says "poles" as a mounting option does that mean any "polearm" (plan on taking shield brace @3 so i can use a shield as well)
Also I'm probably going to choose an archetype for cavalier that replaces the mount, I already have a mounted character in PFS so want to separate this guy as much as possible (and its low level will make it night useless anyways)
Some feats I'm considering are:
- Eldritch Heritage (Imperious) if i go with human (primarily for heroic echoes, which if I'm reading correctly should enhance inspire courage), Step up line, combat reflexes, Shield focus (and some related feats), anything to boost aid another.
That's what I have so far, any help would be appreciated, i am actually playing tonight but will likely use the cavalier premade until this is figured out. Oh and feel free to ask for more info I probably missed something important :P
I'm somewhat trying to recreate a character I had way back when I played 4th edition....if anyone has played 4e the build was usually referred to as a "Lazylord"
It was all about giving your allies the upperhand in any given situation (mostly by granting buffs and bonus actions) without actually doing much yourself although with the right build you could tank as well.
Battle Herald is the closest I've found to "Pure Support" in pathfinder that isn't just "I continue singing and miss my xbow shot again" (the former being the more important part :P)
Anyways on to my build plans so far:
Level wise ATM I'm thinking of either doing Cavalier2/Exemplar Brawler3/Battle HeraldX or Cavalier1/Exemplar Brawler 5/Battle HeraldX (open to other classes,etc.)....reasoning for exemplar over bard is primarily martial flexibility as it would allow me to swap in whatever teamwork feat was appropriate at the time (although some tips of how to manage that many feats would be helpful, currently just got them stuck in a word document) but the Full BAB and higher HD is nice as well, the loss of spellcasting is meh since it would be very little anyways & frankly it suits my "feel" for the character better anyways.
2 Cavalier vs. 5 Brawler: Basically Lvl 2 order ability vs. field instruction. Main question here is how does field instruction interact with tactician I doesn't mention them stacking so i assume they don't but does that grant me two "pools" for sharing teamwork feats and does battle heralds "voice of authority" advance field instruction or just tactician. Oh and since VOA advances tactician does it also grant me "greater tactician" at level 9 (combined BH and Cav)
Orders: Current likes are Eel, Cockatrice, Dragon, Flame, Scales
just worried about some of the Edicts (except cockatrice it basically translate to "Be a PC"), I avoid Paladins like the plague in society as I find GMs tend to be very strict about "The code".
The limited races also make things a bit difficult and my usual go to Gnome or Halfling are no good with their penalty to strength and small size (Despite the inspiration of the "lazylord" I do intend to hit things, likely with a polearm of some sort) Human would likely be optimal but I prefer not to be as I already play a Level 32 Male Human Gamer :P
Speaking of Polearms, there's lots of talk about the "banner of kings" two questions...can i get that in PFS and when the flag/banner says "poles" as a mounting option does that mean any "polearm" (plan on taking shield brace @3 so i can use a shield as well)
Also I'm probably going to choose an archetype for cavalier that replaces the mount, I already have a mounted character in PFS so want to separate this guy as much as possible (and its low level will make it night useless anyways)
Some feats I'm considering are:
- Eldritch Heritage (Imperious) if i go with human (primarily for heroic echoes, which if I'm reading correctly should enhance inspire courage), Step up line, combat reflexes, Shield focus (and some related feats), anything to boost aid another.
That's what I have so far, any help would be appreciated, i am actually playing tonight but will likely use the cavalier premade until this is figured out. Oh and feel free to ask for more info I probably missed something important :P