New Prequel Book! 1/2

[Bubble]

Check out @RichBurlew’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/RichBurlew/status/990310221150113792?s=09

[2D8HP]

How do buy this?

Or anything on-line really.

[Peelee]

How do buy this?

Or anything on-line really.

Sacrifice your firstborn. Or wait until the announcement comes out and hit up ookoodook with, I'm guessing, 25 bucks. Your choice, really.

[martianmister]

OotS 0.5? Or OotS 1.5?

[Keltest]

OotS 0.5? Or OotS 1.5?
.5

1.5 would be 3/2, or thee halves.

[martianmister]

It's a true prequel then, not some kind of midquel.

[Peelee]

It's a true prequel then, not some kind of midquel.

No, still a prequel, since the story started at book 1. Book 0 is OtOoPCs It would help if I could read.

[Keltest]

No, still a prequel, since the story started at book 1. Book 0 is OtOoPCs

Yes? That's what they said. Although I believe the word would be "interquel" rather than "midquel".

[Peelee]

Yes? That's what they said. Although I believe the word would be "interquel" rather than "midquel".

Oh, i misread that. I am not a smart man.

[Gift Jeraff]

Based on the colour, I figured it's the Azure City compilation book mentioned sometime ago.
EDIT: https://twitter.com/RichBurlew/status/957889507562545152

[Ted The Bug]

My guess is How the Paladin got his Scar, Therkla's Kickstarter story, and one brand new short bonus story involving Azure City or paladins to get the interest of those who already have the first two from the KS.

And I'm willing to shell out 25 bucks even if only one of the stories is new to me, so here's hoping.

[factotum]

My guess is How the Paladin got his Scar, Therkla's Kickstarter story, and one brand new short bonus story involving Azure City or paladins to get the interest of those who already have the first two from the KS.

As I said in the thread of the Giant's quotes, where this has also come up, it wouldn't make sense for "How the Paladin Got His Scar" to be in a book labelled 1/2, because I'm sure it precedes "On the Origin of PCs" (book 0). However, if it does include Therkla's story then that complicates things, because that's definitely post-OtOoPCs...

[Yendor]

I'd just like to point out that saying just when Therkla's story takes place would be, well, a spoiler.

Oh, and since OtOoPCs ends almost immediately before the start of DCF, there's strictly speaking not much to put between them.

[Mordokai]

Always looking to add to my OotS collection, so this is good news indeed. I suspect it may be a collection of How The Paladin Got His Scar, plus the assorted KS stories. If it's something else, that much better. If it's that... also very cool :smallbiggrin:

Any mentions of when it's coming out? Didn't see any date on twitter post.

[ti'esar]

Yes? That's what they said. Although I believe the word would be "interquel" rather than "midquel".Oh, i misread that. I am not a smart man.

I'd argue this very ambiguity goes together with the color scheme to imply that this is a KS Azure City compilation book, since those stories were at different points around the timeline.

[Yendor]

Maybe we'll finally get those pages from the Azure City phonebook. :smalltongue:

[Gift Jeraff]

As I said in the thread of the Giant's quotes, where this has also come up, it wouldn't make sense for "How the Paladin Got His Scar" to be in a book labelled 1/2, because I'm sure it precedes "On the Origin of PCs" (book 0). However, if it does include Therkla's story then that complicates things, because that's definitely post-OtOoPCs...

I think that's putting way too much thought into it.

[Procyonpi]

My guess is How the Paladin got his Scar, Therkla's Kickstarter story, and one brand new short bonus story involving Azure City or paladins to get the interest of those who already have the first two from the KS.

And I'm willing to shell out 25 bucks even if only one of the stories is new to me, so here's hoping.

Hell, I'd shell out money soley to get stories I already have digital access to in a nice bond paper format and to support Rich's creative endevours.

[King of Nowhere]

rich announced that he had plans for 3 prequels, but we never heard of the third. And I somehow doubt that's the one. I fear the original prequel plan was scrapped.

[Keltest]

rich announced that he had plans for 3 prequels, but we never heard of the third. And I somehow doubt that's the one. I fear the original prequel plan was scrapped.

While I rather suspect this is an Azure City compilation book rather than, say, a Vector Legion prequel, the O-chul story was listed as the primary time sink at the time, and that was only just recently finished.

[hroþila]

I think that's putting way too much thought into it.
I'ma put EVEN MORE thought into it: it's 1/2 because -1/2, which might have fit a bit better, is already reserved for the Vector Legion prequel.

YEAH.

[Reboot]

While I rather suspect this is an Azure City compilation book rather than, say, a Vector Legion prequel, the O-chul story was listed as the primary time sink at the time, and that was only just recently finished.

Well, in terms of what remains...

Kickstarter-wise, the O-Chul, Belkar, Therkla and Haleo & Julelan stories are done. O-Chul & Therkla will undoubtedly be in an Azure City compilation book, and there's a decent chance that Uncivil Servant and H&J will be chucked in to have all the KS stories to date in one book.

That still leaves the Julio Scoundrél, Sir Francois, the CCPD and Dim Sun stories sitting there [As of his last KS update a month ago (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/599092525/the-order-of-the-stick-reprint-drive/posts/2145652), Sir Francois was furthest advanced, with 3/3 yellows lit. CCPD & Dim Sun were at 1/3 yellow, and Julio is entirely "unlit". He also said he'd be doing another KS story (SF?) before a second round of minis.] I think all those stories kind of "need" to be done before he does another prequel book beyond that list.

[Peelee]

I'm going to go out on a lb and say that book 1/2 is the secret Kickstarter goal that was never revealed. Barring that, my second guess is that it'll be the O-Chul story with other Azure City stuff, but no other Kickstarter stories. There are still three KS PDFs unfinished, and I think that when he puts them in a book, he'll have them all published together, in a Kickstarter Collection, so to speak, instead of having them be spread apart.

Of course, I have a horrible track record of predicting what'll happen, so there's that.

[2D8HP]

Dare I hope that this will be an actual book I can pay cash for at a FLAGS, instead of a damn PDF?

[Ted The Bug]

It's probably not the KS mystery prize because all of the boxes for that are still unlit. Unless there was a post or a tweet about it that I didn't see?

[Sniffnoy]

I'm going to go out on a lb and say that book 1/2 is the secret Kickstarter goal that was never revealed. Barring that, my second guess is that it'll be the O-Chul story with other Azure City stuff, but no other Kickstarter stories. There are still three KS PDFs unfinished, and I think that when he puts them in a book, he'll have them all published together, in a Kickstarter Collection, so to speak, instead of having them be spread apart.

Of course, I have a horrible track record of predicting what'll happen, so there's that.

The problem with your first hypothesis is, well, look at the workometer (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/599092525/the-order-of-the-stick-reprint-drive/posts/2145652). Mystery prize #9 is listed as not even started.

[Rogar Demonblud]

It's probably not the KS mystery prize because all of the boxes for that are still unlit. Unless there was a post or a tweet about it that I didn't see?

Well, that info is a month old, but I don't see Rich moving that fast given the number of pots he has on the boil. At a guess, this is probably at least partially an attempt to raise additional capital to pay for the spiraling postage costs associated with mailing out the crayon drawings.

[Darth Paul]

Sacrifice your firstborn. Or wait until the announcement comes out and hit up ookoodook with, I'm guessing, 25 bucks. Your choice, really.

The sacrificing thing would save me a lot in support payments, long term. Is there any info on that...?

No, no, never mind... I really am quite fond of the kid. I guess I'll do the $25 option after all.

[Rogar Demonblud]

Just as well. That other option really cuts into the odds of having grandchildren to spoil.

[factotum]

Dare I hope that this will be an actual book I can pay cash for at a FLAGS, instead of a damn PDF?

You can buy the physical books from Ookoodook just fine, what's stopping you doing that? Given you're in the States you don't even have the enormous shipping charges to Europe to worry about.

[2D8HP]

You can buy the physical books from Ookoodook just fine, what's stopping you doing that? Given you're in the States you don't even have the enormous shipping charges to Europe to worry about.


After the last time I bought a book on-line (for a University of Southern California textbook many years after the previous time), my credit card started buying things all over the world in places I've never been.

So I don't trust buying things on-line.

[NerdyKris]

Are you accusing OokooDook of stealing credit card information and committing fraud, or do you mean someplace else? That's a pretty serious charge to just throw around like that.

[LadyEowyn]

I hope it's available in PDF format, as I really want the O-Chul story and shipping costs make it unreasonable for me to buy the physical books.

[2D8HP]

Are you accusing OokooDook of stealing credit card information and committing fraud, or do you mean someplace else? That's a pretty serious charge to just throw around like that.


Someplace else (University of Southern California).

I'll edit the post to make that clear!

It's just that I didn't grow up with the internet so it feels off, not paying cash in a store, besides if it wasn't for the FLGS I wouldn't know about the OotS in the first place so I like to support them.

[Keltest]

Someplace else (University of Southern California).

I'll edit the post to make that clear!

It's just that I didn't grow up with the internet so it feels off, not paying cash in a store, besides if it wasn't for the FLGS I wouldn't know about the OotS in the first place so I like to support them.

As somebody who has grown up with the internet, let me reassure you that most companies larger than one person with a shipping label will take pains to protect your information. Its bad for business if you get sued for horribly mishandling a customer's financial information.

Although I can certainly understand the desire to support a brick and mortar local store if possible.

[Peelee]

The problem with your first hypothesis is, well, look at the workometer (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/599092525/the-order-of-the-stick-reprint-drive/posts/2145652). Mystery prize #9 is listed as not even started.

Listen, just because you have "logic" and "reasonable arguments" is no mark against my theory.

[Rogar Demonblud]

After the last time I bought a book on-line (for a University of Southern California textbook many years after the previous time), my credit card started buying things all over the world in places I've never been.

So I don't trust buying things on-line.

A prepaid debit card can do that for you. And once you deplete it, the risk is gone.

Yeah, I got where you went too. Mumbai, Hong Kong and Cairo all on the same day. At least the credit card company let me keep the miles.

[Lord Torath]

After the last time I bought a book on-line (for a University of Southern California textbook many years after the previous time), my credit card started buying things all over the world in places I've never been.

So I don't trust buying things on-line.If it makes you feel better, online security has come a long way since then. I've bought several things off Ookoodook, and also Cafe Press, with no issues. You can buy from them with confidence.

Just, you know, do some research before clicking on links in emails sent by "financial firms". :smallwink:

[DaggerPen]

I buy things online all the time and have only ever had one security breach, which my bank shut down immediately and on which I lost no money. I understand wanting to support local stores, though, which I assume that particular acronym stands for?

Anyway, I'm hoping for the Azure City compilation book for sure! Some of the other Kickstarter stories were released as standalone PDFs, and O-Chul's story is apparently almost a small book itself, so I wouldn't be surprised if the Kickstarter stories end up split amongst multiple purchasable offerings. And god do I want the O-Chul and Therkla stories yesterday.

[littlebum2002]

Well, in terms of what remains...

Kickstarter-wise, the O-Chul, Belkar, Therkla and Haleo & Julelan stories are done. O-Chul & Therkla will undoubtedly be in an Azure City compilation book, and there's a decent chance that Uncivil Servant and H&J will be chucked in to have all the KS stories to date in one book.

That still leaves the Julio Scoundrél, Sir Francois, the CCPD and Dim Sun stories sitting there [As of his last KS update a month ago (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/599092525/the-order-of-the-stick-reprint-drive/posts/2145652), Sir Francois was furthest advanced, with 3/3 yellows lit. CCPD & Dim Sun were at 1/3 yellow, and Julio is entirely "unlit". He also said he'd be doing another KS story (SF?) before a second round of minis.] I think all those stories kind of "need" to be done before he does another prequel book beyond that list.

Wow. This post just highlights the insanely high amount of work Rich has done and has left to do. I'm glad he's willing to work so hard for his fans.


A prepaid debit card can do that for you. And once you deplete it, the risk is gone.

Yeah, I got where you went too. Mumbai, Hong Kong and Cairo all on the same day. At least the credit card company let me keep the miles.

This. If you are worried about using your credit card online (which really is an unnecessary fear, given the staggeringly high amount of safe online credit card transactions completed every day, but given that you are already a victim of identity theft, completely understandable), go use cash to buy a prepaid visa debit card for the full amount of the book plus shipping, then just use that. Even if someone does get your number, the card will be depleted with nothing for them to steal.

[Grey_Wolf_c]

I buy things online all the time and have only ever had one security breach, which my bank shut down immediately and on which I lost no money. I understand wanting to support local stores, though, which I assume that particular acronym stands for?

"Friendly Local Game Store"

GW

[DaggerPen]

"Friendly Local Game Store"

GW

Ah, thank you!

[D.One]

Do we have any indication that 1/2 is the number of the book, intead of a representation that the book is half-way done?

I mean, the foot-1/2-foot seemed to me, at first sight, to indicate that something is half-way.

[Jasdoif]

Do we have any indication that 1/2 is the number of the book, intead of a representation that the book is half-way done?

I mean, the foot-1/2-foot seemed to me, at first sight, to indicate that something is half-way.The pattern conforms to the other book covers; "by Rich Burlew" in white text horizontally on black, the bottom colored bar with the black book number (on the printed book's spine) framed by the similar color (on the front/back cover).

[Rogar Demonblud]

It's a mock cover, so you see the back (a foot), the spine (the number) and the front (the other foot). Plus it fits with how the rest are done (D, -1, 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5).

[Kish]

Aside from that, why would Rich make a cryptic announcement that something, he's not saying what, is halfway done? Months later when it's actually done any excitement over it would have turned to rancor.

[Reboot]

Wow. This post just highlights the insanely high amount of work Rich has done and has left to do. I'm glad he's willing to work so hard for his fans.

Actually, it's more a sign that - in his own words! - he "spectacularly over-promised (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=19170020&postcount=123)" on stretch goals for the Kickstarter (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/599092525/the-order-of-the-stick-reprint-drive/description). Remember, all the stuff from the KS is paid for, which is why it's such "a huge ongoing problem for [him]". After all, the estimated delivery dates for the KS, even the "PATIENCE"/"This package will not ship until all other orders have been fulfilled" ones, were all in 2012.

[Peelee]

Oh, look, it's both my predictions being wrong. Color me surprised.

[D.One]

Mistery solved. Good Deeds Gone Unpunished

[Doctor West]

I think that's putting way too much thought into it.

If I didn't know better, I'd think you were new to these forums. :smalltongue:

[georgie_leech]

After the last time I bought a book on-line (for a University of Southern California textbook many years after the previous time), my credit card started buying things all over the world in places I've never been.

So I don't trust buying things on-line.

If you or anyone else is especially worried, one thing you could try would be pre-paid cards. Figure out what the total price is, get a Visa giftcard or whatever with at least that amount, and use that for the purchase. That way, even if there's a compromised site or you've got something funky on your machine, the most they can take is whatever is left over on that particular card. It's what I do.

[Peelee]

If you or anyone else is especially worried, one thing you could try would be pre-paid cards. Figure out what the total price is, get a Visa giftcard or whatever with at least that amount, and use that for the purchase. That way, even if there's a compromised site or you've got something funky on your machine, the most they can take is whatever is left over on that particular card. It's what I do.

Bluebird is a great pre-paid card. It's AmEx, IIRC.

[2D8HP]

If you or anyone else is especially worried, one thing you could try would be pre-paid cards. Figure out what the total price is, get a Visa giftcard or whatever with at least that amount, and use that for the purchase. That way, even if there's a compromised site or you've got something funky on your machine, the most they can take is whatever is left over on that particular card. It's what I do.


Bluebird is a great pre-paid card. It's AmEx, IIRC.


Thanks for the in the info guys!

[Rogar Demonblud]

Just so you know, most cards have a minimum of $50. See also Rich's comments in the other thread about when the money will be drafted.

[2D8HP]

Just so you know, most cards have a minimum of $50. See also Rich's comments in the other thread about when the money will be drafted.


Thanks, I never bought one of those cards, and I've been wanted to get a copy of

Snips, Snails, and Dragon Tales (http://www.ookoodook.com/products/gtpotsdr)

fot a long while now, so $50+ is fine

[Peelee]

Just so you know, most cards have a minimum of $50. See also Rich's comments in the other thread about when the money will be drafted.

Not Bluebird. $20 min, IIRC, with no monthly or annual fees. Pretty great card, honestly.

[Rogar Demonblud]

Thanks, I never bought one of those cards, and I've been wanted to get a copy of

Snips, Snails, and Dragon Tales (http://www.ookoodook.com/products/gtpotsdr)

fot a long while now, so $50+ is fine

Also remember there may be interchange fees, so it might be a little higher than what the site gives you.