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Dyslexic
2018-05-24, 10:27 AM
I'm writing a guide for the wizard's spell for D&D 3.X.
But I have a problem: How can I recognize when an handbook is official?
Wich setting are official?
Eberron?
Faerun?
Dragonlance?
Kalamar?
Ravenloft?
Warcraft?
Oriental adventures?

The dragon magazine are official?

Falontani
2018-05-24, 11:03 AM
I'm writing a guide for the wizard's spell for D&D 3.X.
But I have a problem: How can I recognize when an handbook is official?
Wich setting are official?
Eberron
Toril (Faerun)
Dragonlance - This book's Campaign Setting Book is official, the r
Kalamar?
Ravenloft? (This setting is only RAW in a few modules, however it does not have an official 3.5 release of a campaign setting
Warcraft?
Oriental adventures Technically official, however it has less official RAW than even Dragonlance
Greyhawk is also RAW
The dragon magazine are official?
I hope that helps

Dyslexic
2018-05-24, 11:31 AM
Ok, but why?
Kalamr (i.e.) have the D&D and wotc logo...

Venger
2018-05-24, 12:12 PM
I'm writing a guide for the wizard's spell for D&D 3.X.
But I have a problem: How can I recognize when an handbook is official?
Wich setting are official?
Eberron?
Faerun?
Dragonlance?
Kalamar?
Ravenloft?
Warcraft?
Oriental adventures?

The dragon magazine are official?



Ok, but why?
Kalamr (i.e.) have the D&D and wotc logo...

Falontani's post is mostly correct. A little clarification.

All dragonlance books aside from dragonlance campaign setting are 3rd party, so not official.

Kalamar is 3rd party. Not official. It is officially licensed through wotc, but it is not made by them. This is why it has the logo.

Expedition to castle ravenloft is official. any other ravenloft book is not.

oriental adventures is official and raw. however, it is 3.0 material. if you are playing in a 3.5 game, it was updated in dragon 318. this is the only part of the only issue of dragon magazine that is official. all other dragon magazine content is not official.

some of dragon magazine's content was collected into the book "dragon compendium." this book is official.

if you have any other sources you have questions about, feel free to ask.

Venger
2018-05-24, 12:35 PM
Almost all of this stuff is licensed by wotc but not published by them, including Dragon Compendium. What makes it official?

Dragonlance isn't even a D&D supplement, so it's pretty much like Magic: The Gathering, isn't it?

No, all the things I specified as official are published by them. That's what makes them official, but something that is licensed but not published by them, such as the wheel of time d20 setting not official.

Dragon compendium is official, because it was published by them. Please don't muddy the waters.

Dragonlance campaign setting is a D&D setting.

Venger
2018-05-24, 12:51 PM
Published by them, even though it says Paizo Publishing?

Dragonlance was perhaps exaggerated.. but still, it carries no D&D logo.

Yes, it was published by wotc. Paizo's logo is in the copyright section of the book because at the time the content was collected, they were running dragon magazine, so needed to be credited for the issues that were adapted.

You are wrong. Wotc's logo is on literally the first page of dragonlance campaign setting with the other copyright info, as normal.

Troacctid
2018-05-24, 01:07 PM
The Consolidated Lists in the WotC archives have a list of sources at the bottom. All of these books are 100% official content published by Wizards of the Coast.



An
Anauroch: The Empire of Shade


AE
Arms and Equipment Guide


BFK
Barrow of the Forgotten King


BB
Bastion of Broken Souls


BC
Book of Challenges: Dungeon Rooms, Puzzles, and Traps


BE
Book of Exalted Deeds


BV
Book of Vile Darkness


CR
Champions of Ruin


CV
Champions of Valor


CiP
City of Peril


CSW
City of Splendors: Waterdeep


CSQ
City of the Spider Queen


Ci
Cityscape


CAd
Complete Adventurer


CAr
Complete Arcane


CC
Complete Champion


CD
Complete Divine


CM
Complete Mage


CP
Complete Psionic


CS
Complete Scoundrel


CW
Complete Warrior


Co
Cormyr: The Tearing of the Weave


DG
D&D Gazetteer


DH
Deep Horizon


DF
Defenders of the Faith: A Guidebook to Clerics and Paladins


DD
Deities and Demigods


Dr
Draconomicon


DM
Dragon Magic


DCS
Dragonlance Campaign Setting


Dra
Dragonmarked


DE
Dragons of Eberron


DrF
Dragons of Faerūn


DrU
Drow of the Underdark


DMG
Dungeon Master's Guide v.3.5


DMG2
Dungeon Master's Guide II


Du
Dungeonscape


ECS
Eberron Campaign Setting


ElE
Elder Evils


EA
Enemies and Allies


EL
Epic Level Handbook


EE
Exemplars of Evil


XPH
Expanded Psionics Handbook


Rav
Expedition to Castle Ravenloft


EDP
Expedition to the Demonweb Pits


ERG
Expedition to the Ruins of Greyhawk


EU
Expedition to Undermountain


EH
Explorer's Handbook


ELQ
Eyes of the Lich Queen


FP
Faiths & Pantheons


FE
Faiths of Eberron


FLFD
Fantastic Locations: Fane of the Drow


FLFR
Fantastic Locations: Fields of Ruin


FLHP
Fantastic Locations: Hellspike Prison


FF
Fiend Folio


FCI
Fiendish Codex I: Hordes of the Abyss


FCI
Fiendish Codex II: Tyrants of the Nine Hells


Fo
Forge of Fury, The


FW
Forge of War, The


FRCS
Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting


FY
Fortress of the Yuan-Ti


Fr
Frostburn


Gh
Ghostwalk


GHR
Grand History of the Realms


GC
Grasp of the Emerald Claw


HN
Heart of Nightfang Spire


HBG
Hero Builder's Guidebook


HB
Heroes of Battle


HH
Heroes of Horror


LM
Libris Mortis: The Book of the Dead


LG
Living Greyhawk Gazetteer


LF
Lord of the Iron Fortress


LD
Lords of Darkness


LoM
Lords of Madness


LE
Lost Empires of Faerūn


MIC
Magic Item Compendium


MoE
Magic of Eberron


Mag
Magic of Faerūn


MoI
Magic of Incarnum


MP
Manual of the Planes


MW
Masters of the Wild: A Guidebook to Barbarians, Druids, and Rangers


MH
Miniatures Handbook


Mon
Monster Compendium: Monsters of Faerūn


MM5
Monster Manual V


MM4
Monster Manual IV


MM3
Monster Manual III


MM2
Monster Manual II


MM
Monster Manual v.3.5


Mys
Mysteries of the Moonsea


OA
Oriental Adventures


PlH
Planar Handbook


PE
Player's Guide to Eberron


PG
Player's Guide to Faerūn


PH
Player's Handbook v.3.5


PH2
Player's Handbook II


PF
Power of Faerūn


RD
Races of Destiny


RE
Races of Eberron


Rac
Races of Faerūn


RS
Races of Stone


RDr
Races of the Dragon


RW
Races of the Wild


RH
Red Hand of Doom


RT
Return to the Temple of Elemental Evil


RC
Rules Compendium


Sa
Sandstorm


SS
Savage Species


SoS
Secrets of Sarlona


SX
Secrets of Xen'drik


SK
Serpent Kingdoms


SSL
Shadowdale: The Scouring of the Land


SL
Shadows of the Last War


Sh
Sharn: City of Towers


ShG
The Shattered Gates of Slaughtergarde


ShS
Shining South


SM
Silver Marches


SiS
Sinister Spire, The


SaS
Song and Silence: A Guidebook to Bards and Rogues


SG
Sons of Gruumsh


SD
Speaker in Dreams, The


StS
Standing Stone, The


Sto
Stormwrack


SB
Stronghold Builder's Guidebook


SC
Sunless Citadel, The


SF
Sword and Fist: A Guidebook to Monks and Fighters


TB
Tome and Blood: A Guidebook to Wizards and Sorcerers


ToB
Tome of Battle: The Book of Nine Swords


TM
Tome of Magic


Una
Unapproachable East


Und
Underdark


UA
Unearthed Arcana


VGD
Voyage of the Golden Dragon


WB
Whispers of the Vampire's Blade

Venger
2018-05-24, 01:15 PM
Alright, quite an odd thing that everywhere it is listed as Paizo Publishing, but I guess I'll just have to trust you on this one.

Well Kalamar also has the wotc logo and so do many other books not published by wotc. The logo seems to be for what is licensed by wotc, not published.
Not sure what you mean by this though, as I didn't really mention it.

I don't see the wotc logo in the kalamar book, but maybe you have one of the other ones. Usually, the licensed one will say "licensed" on it:

https://image.ibb.co/b94XgT/Screen_Shot_2018_05_24_at_1_12_35_PM.png

like so.

You said dragonlance didn't have a D&D logo. It's got wotc's logo on page 1.

Thanks for the chart, Troacctid. Very helpful as always.

Falontani
2018-05-24, 01:17 PM
I had never heard of the Kalamar setting, thats the reason I assumed it was unofficial. Had it been official more people would have talked about it.

Darrin
2018-05-24, 02:04 PM
Ok, but why?
Kalamr (i.e.) have the D&D and wotc logo...

It's due to a legal settlement.

When WotC releasted the Dragon Magazine Archive on CD-ROM, they inadvertently included intellectual property on it that belonged to KenzerCo without consulting with or compensating KenzerCo. When Dave Kenzer (CEO) brought this to WotC's attention, rather than litigate over monetary damages, Dave Kenzer asked for an exclusive licensing agreement with WotC: KenzerCo's Kingdom of Kalamar line of products would be recognized as one of the official D&D campaign worlds. This also allowed KenzerCo to use both the Official D&D and WotC License logo. This was the only 3rd party publisher that was allowed to display both these logos.

I don't know the specifics of the license agreement, but I don't believe that WotC had any editorial involvement with the Kingdoms of Kalamar line. As in, KenzerCo could print whatever they liked (within reasonable expectations of good taste) and still use the logos.

The Oriental Adventures, Dragonlance, and the Expedition to Castle Ravenloft books were printed under a different arrangement. I'm guessing for logistical reasons, the main rulebook for the campaign world was printed by WotC, and thus they carry the WotC logo, trademark, and other publishing boilerplate stuff. There may have been some sharing of editorial staff for various pieces of the text. After that, all subsequent releases for those campaign worlds were by a 3rd party company: AEG, Sovereign Press, or Sword & Sorcery.

Uncle Pine
2018-05-24, 02:35 PM
The Consolidated Lists in the WotC archives have a list of sources at the bottom. All of these books are 100% official content published by Wizards of the Coast.

-snip-
Oh my, that is awesome. You are awesome! And I have realised I'm still missing some books on that list, so thank you very much.

Bullet06320
2018-05-24, 02:40 PM
http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/arch/dnd

lets not forget the all the material published on the website

Nifft
2018-05-24, 02:41 PM
I'm writing a guide for the wizard's spell for D&D 3.X.
But I have a problem: How can I recognize when an handbook is official?
Wich setting are official?

I don't think you can write a single handbook for Wizard spells across all settings.

I think Eberron spells aren't official in Dark Sun, for example, and vice-versa.

So maybe you should do a per-setting spell list?

Doctor Awkward
2018-05-24, 03:48 PM
I don't think you can write a single handbook for Wizard spells across all settings.

I think Eberron spells aren't official in Dark Sun, for example, and vice-versa.

So maybe you should do a per-setting spell list?


So far as I know, there aren't any official rules or even guidelines for having material crossing settings.

However, I personally would still recommend caution to beginner DM's before they start trying to just stir everything into a big pot. While a homebrew campaign setting can incorporate any material the author wants, most setting-specific material is usually written so it meshes best with the specific campaign setting it comes from, often providing reasons for the existence of specific oddities and background for what would otherwise be nonsense. I.E.: Eberron's magical birthmarks and action points, the Weave and Shadow Weave magic of Forgotten Realms, the dragonspawn template of Dragonlance, the nature of magic and the Godsworn in Thieve's World, and so on. Even the nature of specific creatures can vary from one setting to another; dragons are a merely uncommon sight in Forgotten Realms, but they are bad news in Eberron. The repair line of spells are almost universally useful in a given Eberron game, but are practically worthless outside of it.

Troacctid's list up there is inclusive, but also contains many adventure paths and all of the setting-specific resources.
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Dungeons_%26_Dragons_rulebooks#Dungeons_&_Dragons_3rd_edition_and_v3.5) has a complete list of all non-setting-specific core books and supplements for both 3rd Edition and 3.5, to help narrow things down a little.

Dyslexic
2018-05-25, 02:05 AM
I don't think you can write a single handbook for Wizard spells across all settings.

I think Eberron spells aren't official in Dark Sun, for example, and vice-versa.

So maybe you should do a per-setting spell list?

I have no problem to use a specific spell of a setting in another setting.
But I will write the surcebook after each list of spell, so the reader can decide wich spells can use.

Kelb_Panthera
2018-05-25, 02:34 AM
Yes, it was published by wotc. Paizo's logo is in the copyright section of the book because at the time the content was collected, they were running dragon magazine, so needed to be credited for the issues that were adapted.

Got that backwards, dude.


The following text is considered Open Content: "Arcane Alterations: Templates for Spells." This Paizo Publishing game product contains no other Open Game Content.

Emphasis mine.