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Dyslexic
2018-05-24, 10:27 AM
I'm writing a guide for the wizard's spell for D&D 3.X.
But I have a problem: How can I recognize when an handbook is official?
Wich setting are official?
Eberron?
Faerun?
Dragonlance?
Kalamar?
Ravenloft?
Warcraft?
Oriental adventures?
The dragon magazine are official?
Falontani
2018-05-24, 11:03 AM
I'm writing a guide for the wizard's spell for D&D 3.X.
But I have a problem: How can I recognize when an handbook is official?
Wich setting are official?
Eberron
Toril (Faerun)
Dragonlance - This book's Campaign Setting Book is official, the r
Kalamar?
Ravenloft? (This setting is only RAW in a few modules, however it does not have an official 3.5 release of a campaign setting
Warcraft?
Oriental adventures Technically official, however it has less official RAW than even Dragonlance
Greyhawk is also RAW
The dragon magazine are official?
I hope that helps
Dyslexic
2018-05-24, 11:31 AM
Ok, but why?
Kalamr (i.e.) have the D&D and wotc logo...
Venger
2018-05-24, 12:12 PM
I'm writing a guide for the wizard's spell for D&D 3.X.
But I have a problem: How can I recognize when an handbook is official?
Wich setting are official?
Eberron?
Faerun?
Dragonlance?
Kalamar?
Ravenloft?
Warcraft?
Oriental adventures?
The dragon magazine are official?
Ok, but why?
Kalamr (i.e.) have the D&D and wotc logo...
Falontani's post is mostly correct. A little clarification.
All dragonlance books aside from dragonlance campaign setting are 3rd party, so not official.
Kalamar is 3rd party. Not official. It is officially licensed through wotc, but it is not made by them. This is why it has the logo.
Expedition to castle ravenloft is official. any other ravenloft book is not.
oriental adventures is official and raw. however, it is 3.0 material. if you are playing in a 3.5 game, it was updated in dragon 318. this is the only part of the only issue of dragon magazine that is official. all other dragon magazine content is not official.
some of dragon magazine's content was collected into the book "dragon compendium." this book is official.
if you have any other sources you have questions about, feel free to ask.
Venger
2018-05-24, 12:35 PM
Almost all of this stuff is licensed by wotc but not published by them, including Dragon Compendium. What makes it official?
Dragonlance isn't even a D&D supplement, so it's pretty much like Magic: The Gathering, isn't it?
No, all the things I specified as official are published by them. That's what makes them official, but something that is licensed but not published by them, such as the wheel of time d20 setting not official.
Dragon compendium is official, because it was published by them. Please don't muddy the waters.
Dragonlance campaign setting is a D&D setting.
Venger
2018-05-24, 12:51 PM
Published by them, even though it says Paizo Publishing?
Dragonlance was perhaps exaggerated.. but still, it carries no D&D logo.
Yes, it was published by wotc. Paizo's logo is in the copyright section of the book because at the time the content was collected, they were running dragon magazine, so needed to be credited for the issues that were adapted.
You are wrong. Wotc's logo is on literally the first page of dragonlance campaign setting with the other copyright info, as normal.
Troacctid
2018-05-24, 01:07 PM
The Consolidated Lists in the WotC archives have a list of sources at the bottom. All of these books are 100% official content published by Wizards of the Coast.
An
Anauroch: The Empire of Shade
AE
Arms and Equipment Guide
BFK
Barrow of the Forgotten King
BB
Bastion of Broken Souls
BC
Book of Challenges: Dungeon Rooms, Puzzles, and Traps
BE
Book of Exalted Deeds
BV
Book of Vile Darkness
CR
Champions of Ruin
CV
Champions of Valor
CiP
City of Peril
CSW
City of Splendors: Waterdeep
CSQ
City of the Spider Queen
Ci
Cityscape
CAd
Complete Adventurer
CAr
Complete Arcane
CC
Complete Champion
CD
Complete Divine
CM
Complete Mage
CP
Complete Psionic
CS
Complete Scoundrel
CW
Complete Warrior
Co
Cormyr: The Tearing of the Weave
DG
D&D Gazetteer
DH
Deep Horizon
DF
Defenders of the Faith: A Guidebook to Clerics and Paladins
DD
Deities and Demigods
Dr
Draconomicon
DM
Dragon Magic
DCS
Dragonlance Campaign Setting
Dra
Dragonmarked
DE
Dragons of Eberron
DrF
Dragons of Faerūn
DrU
Drow of the Underdark
DMG
Dungeon Master's Guide v.3.5
DMG2
Dungeon Master's Guide II
Du
Dungeonscape
ECS
Eberron Campaign Setting
ElE
Elder Evils
EA
Enemies and Allies
EL
Epic Level Handbook
EE
Exemplars of Evil
XPH
Expanded Psionics Handbook
Rav
Expedition to Castle Ravenloft
EDP
Expedition to the Demonweb Pits
ERG
Expedition to the Ruins of Greyhawk
EU
Expedition to Undermountain
EH
Explorer's Handbook
ELQ
Eyes of the Lich Queen
FP
Faiths & Pantheons
FE
Faiths of Eberron
FLFD
Fantastic Locations: Fane of the Drow
FLFR
Fantastic Locations: Fields of Ruin
FLHP
Fantastic Locations: Hellspike Prison
FF
Fiend Folio
FCI
Fiendish Codex I: Hordes of the Abyss
FCI
Fiendish Codex II: Tyrants of the Nine Hells
Fo
Forge of Fury, The
FW
Forge of War, The
FRCS
Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting
FY
Fortress of the Yuan-Ti
Fr
Frostburn
Gh
Ghostwalk
GHR
Grand History of the Realms
GC
Grasp of the Emerald Claw
HN
Heart of Nightfang Spire
HBG
Hero Builder's Guidebook
HB
Heroes of Battle
HH
Heroes of Horror
LM
Libris Mortis: The Book of the Dead
LG
Living Greyhawk Gazetteer
LF
Lord of the Iron Fortress
LD
Lords of Darkness
LoM
Lords of Madness
LE
Lost Empires of Faerūn
MIC
Magic Item Compendium
MoE
Magic of Eberron
Mag
Magic of Faerūn
MoI
Magic of Incarnum
MP
Manual of the Planes
MW
Masters of the Wild: A Guidebook to Barbarians, Druids, and Rangers
MH
Miniatures Handbook
Mon
Monster Compendium: Monsters of Faerūn
MM5
Monster Manual V
MM4
Monster Manual IV
MM3
Monster Manual III
MM2
Monster Manual II
MM
Monster Manual v.3.5
Mys
Mysteries of the Moonsea
OA
Oriental Adventures
PlH
Planar Handbook
PE
Player's Guide to Eberron
PG
Player's Guide to Faerūn
PH
Player's Handbook v.3.5
PH2
Player's Handbook II
PF
Power of Faerūn
RD
Races of Destiny
RE
Races of Eberron
Rac
Races of Faerūn
RS
Races of Stone
RDr
Races of the Dragon
RW
Races of the Wild
RH
Red Hand of Doom
RT
Return to the Temple of Elemental Evil
RC
Rules Compendium
Sa
Sandstorm
SS
Savage Species
SoS
Secrets of Sarlona
SX
Secrets of Xen'drik
SK
Serpent Kingdoms
SSL
Shadowdale: The Scouring of the Land
SL
Shadows of the Last War
Sh
Sharn: City of Towers
ShG
The Shattered Gates of Slaughtergarde
ShS
Shining South
SM
Silver Marches
SiS
Sinister Spire, The
SaS
Song and Silence: A Guidebook to Bards and Rogues
SG
Sons of Gruumsh
SD
Speaker in Dreams, The
StS
Standing Stone, The
Sto
Stormwrack
SB
Stronghold Builder's Guidebook
SC
Sunless Citadel, The
SF
Sword and Fist: A Guidebook to Monks and Fighters
TB
Tome and Blood: A Guidebook to Wizards and Sorcerers
ToB
Tome of Battle: The Book of Nine Swords
TM
Tome of Magic
Una
Unapproachable East
Und
Underdark
UA
Unearthed Arcana
VGD
Voyage of the Golden Dragon
WB
Whispers of the Vampire's Blade
Venger
2018-05-24, 01:15 PM
Alright, quite an odd thing that everywhere it is listed as Paizo Publishing, but I guess I'll just have to trust you on this one.
Well Kalamar also has the wotc logo and so do many other books not published by wotc. The logo seems to be for what is licensed by wotc, not published.
Not sure what you mean by this though, as I didn't really mention it.
I don't see the wotc logo in the kalamar book, but maybe you have one of the other ones. Usually, the licensed one will say "licensed" on it:
https://image.ibb.co/b94XgT/Screen_Shot_2018_05_24_at_1_12_35_PM.png
like so.
You said dragonlance didn't have a D&D logo. It's got wotc's logo on page 1.
Thanks for the chart, Troacctid. Very helpful as always.
Falontani
2018-05-24, 01:17 PM
I had never heard of the Kalamar setting, thats the reason I assumed it was unofficial. Had it been official more people would have talked about it.
Darrin
2018-05-24, 02:04 PM
Ok, but why?
Kalamr (i.e.) have the D&D and wotc logo...
It's due to a legal settlement.
When WotC releasted the Dragon Magazine Archive on CD-ROM, they inadvertently included intellectual property on it that belonged to KenzerCo without consulting with or compensating KenzerCo. When Dave Kenzer (CEO) brought this to WotC's attention, rather than litigate over monetary damages, Dave Kenzer asked for an exclusive licensing agreement with WotC: KenzerCo's Kingdom of Kalamar line of products would be recognized as one of the official D&D campaign worlds. This also allowed KenzerCo to use both the Official D&D and WotC License logo. This was the only 3rd party publisher that was allowed to display both these logos.
I don't know the specifics of the license agreement, but I don't believe that WotC had any editorial involvement with the Kingdoms of Kalamar line. As in, KenzerCo could print whatever they liked (within reasonable expectations of good taste) and still use the logos.
The Oriental Adventures, Dragonlance, and the Expedition to Castle Ravenloft books were printed under a different arrangement. I'm guessing for logistical reasons, the main rulebook for the campaign world was printed by WotC, and thus they carry the WotC logo, trademark, and other publishing boilerplate stuff. There may have been some sharing of editorial staff for various pieces of the text. After that, all subsequent releases for those campaign worlds were by a 3rd party company: AEG, Sovereign Press, or Sword & Sorcery.
Uncle Pine
2018-05-24, 02:35 PM
The Consolidated Lists in the WotC archives have a list of sources at the bottom. All of these books are 100% official content published by Wizards of the Coast.
-snip-
Oh my, that is awesome. You are awesome! And I have realised I'm still missing some books on that list, so thank you very much.
Bullet06320
2018-05-24, 02:40 PM
http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/arch/dnd
lets not forget the all the material published on the website
Nifft
2018-05-24, 02:41 PM
I'm writing a guide for the wizard's spell for D&D 3.X.
But I have a problem: How can I recognize when an handbook is official?
Wich setting are official?
I don't think you can write a single handbook for Wizard spells across all settings.
I think Eberron spells aren't official in Dark Sun, for example, and vice-versa.
So maybe you should do a per-setting spell list?
Doctor Awkward
2018-05-24, 03:48 PM
I don't think you can write a single handbook for Wizard spells across all settings.
I think Eberron spells aren't official in Dark Sun, for example, and vice-versa.
So maybe you should do a per-setting spell list?
So far as I know, there aren't any official rules or even guidelines for having material crossing settings.
However, I personally would still recommend caution to beginner DM's before they start trying to just stir everything into a big pot. While a homebrew campaign setting can incorporate any material the author wants, most setting-specific material is usually written so it meshes best with the specific campaign setting it comes from, often providing reasons for the existence of specific oddities and background for what would otherwise be nonsense. I.E.: Eberron's magical birthmarks and action points, the Weave and Shadow Weave magic of Forgotten Realms, the dragonspawn template of Dragonlance, the nature of magic and the Godsworn in Thieve's World, and so on. Even the nature of specific creatures can vary from one setting to another; dragons are a merely uncommon sight in Forgotten Realms, but they are bad news in Eberron. The repair line of spells are almost universally useful in a given Eberron game, but are practically worthless outside of it.
Troacctid's list up there is inclusive, but also contains many adventure paths and all of the setting-specific resources.
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Dungeons_%26_Dragons_rulebooks#Dungeons_&_Dragons_3rd_edition_and_v3.5) has a complete list of all non-setting-specific core books and supplements for both 3rd Edition and 3.5, to help narrow things down a little.
Dyslexic
2018-05-25, 02:05 AM
I don't think you can write a single handbook for Wizard spells across all settings.
I think Eberron spells aren't official in Dark Sun, for example, and vice-versa.
So maybe you should do a per-setting spell list?
I have no problem to use a specific spell of a setting in another setting.
But I will write the surcebook after each list of spell, so the reader can decide wich spells can use.
Kelb_Panthera
2018-05-25, 02:34 AM
Yes, it was published by wotc. Paizo's logo is in the copyright section of the book because at the time the content was collected, they were running dragon magazine, so needed to be credited for the issues that were adapted.
Got that backwards, dude.
The following text is considered Open Content: "Arcane Alterations: Templates for Spells." This Paizo Publishing game product contains no other Open Game Content.
Emphasis mine.
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