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evyldead
2018-06-03, 02:50 AM
Yes, that is what I am looking for and I can't seem to find anything on aquiring the Half-Dragon template. If it is not possible then is there anything that is similar to the Half-Dragon template?

GrayDeath
2018-06-03, 02:54 AM
Finishing the Dragon Disciple prestige CLass is pretty similar, if you ask me.

But sure, the Template can be aquired, it just going to be really cheesy or dangerous (Wish Stacking for eample)....

Venger
2018-06-03, 02:59 AM
Yes, that is what I am looking for and I can't seem to find anything on aquiring the Half-Dragon template. If it is not possible then is there anything that is similar to the Half-Dragon template?

No. It's inherited. dragon disciple kind of grants it, as mentioned (albeit over 10 levels) You can always travel back in time and set your mom up on a blind date.

frogglesmash
2018-06-03, 03:12 AM
Not RAW, but a reasonable method imo, would be to just treat it as a souped up version of dragonborn i.e. go through the ritual to become a dragonborn, but gain the half dragon template instead of the dragonborn pseudo template. Of course this would require a moderately permissive DM. Alternatively there's the transformation rituals from Savage Species that get mentioned in every thread similar to this one.

unseenmage
2018-06-03, 03:12 AM
Theoretically yes, via the Wish based ritual in the back of Savage Species.

Or by researching a custom spell of Reincarnate or similar.

Either way you'll require GM permission.

DdarkED
2018-06-03, 03:19 AM
The Half Dragon Template Class might work. you can find it with a quick google search. its 3 lvs long. grants all the bonus of the template by the end of it. can be explained away as your latent draconic blood awakening over time. (official WotC web article or some such)

IIRC savage species has rules for Rituals that grant inherited templates.

there are also spells that grant some inherited templates permanently. the only one i know of for sure grants the half fiend template, which could be re-fluffed for dragons maybe even as a slightly lower lv spell since the LA for half dragon is lower then half fiend. (Nar Fiendbond is the spell)

frogglesmash
2018-06-03, 03:24 AM
a couple other options are to double PaO into yourself with the half dragon template (someone might come along and tell that PaO can't do templates, but iirc it can), or to true mind switch with someone who already has the template. Unfortunately PaO is dispellable, so even if it does work, it's not ideal.

Edit: I almost forgot, you could find a friendly half-dragon, and use the Fusion+Astral Seed trick. This one's pretty cheesy, so you might have trouble getting your DM to let you do it.

zergling.exe
2018-06-03, 08:48 AM
The Half Dragon Template Class might work. you can find it with a quick google search. its 3 lvs long. grants all the bonus of the template by the end of it. can be explained away as your latent draconic blood awakening over time. (official WotC web article or some such)

IIRC savage species has rules for Rituals that grant inherited templates.

there are also spells that grant some inherited templates permanently. the only one i know of for sure grants the half fiend template, which could be re-fluffed for dragons maybe even as a slightly lower lv spell since the LA for half dragon is lower then half fiend. (Nar Fiendbond is the spell)

The half-dragon template class is, iirc, an upgrade option for Draconic creatures. So I don't think it'd work if you didn't already have that template.


a couple other options are to double PaO into yourself with the half dragon template (someone might come along and tell that PaO can't do templates, but iirc it can), or to true mind switch with someone who already has the template. Unfortunately PaO is dispellable, so even if it does work, it's not ideal.

Edit: I almost forgot, you could find a friendly half-dragon, and use the Fusion+Astral Seed trick. This one's pretty cheesy, so you might have trouble getting your DM to let you do it.


This spell functions like alter self, except that you change the willing subject into another form of living creature.

You cannot take the form of any creature with a template, even if that template doesn’t change the creature type or subtype.

Ramza00
2018-06-03, 10:26 AM
Normally the half dragon in the SRD is an inherited template. But mechanically it does not have to be and thus wizards.com / wotc / the people who made D&D made a 3 level class where you inherit half dragon over 3 virtual levels (you do not gain HD, BAB, Saves, and so on.) It is located here.

http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/sp/20030912a

Note there are several other articles similar to this on WOTC website such as the Half Fey and other races located here.

http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/sp/20030912a

And more here

http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/arch/sp

Also specific books such as Complete Psionic have these template like classes where you gain viritual levels for some level adjustment races or templates.

Nifft
2018-06-03, 12:25 PM
Yes, that is what I am looking for and I can't seem to find anything on aquiring the Half-Dragon template.

You can apply the Half-Dragon Template dynamically, any time you want, to any form you want -- but you have to start out as a True Dragon Sorcerer 5 and have access to Eberron material.

evyldead
2018-06-03, 01:42 PM
Thank you for the information guys! The DM is kinda by the books, well all by the books less he seems so which is hard to sway haha. So if I take the rite of rebirth, because I did some digging before looking back at this, then I take the 3 lvls for the template I'm just merely gaining the bonuses, not the HD, BAB and that kind of stuff. I'll have to check that out. Because as of right now we ended last session with my character figuring out bahamut does the Rite of Rebirth and already loves dragon magic and everything dragons but no one in the party has any idea that I do. So that is the goal as for now, unless I can find out how to become a Half-Dragon. So that 3 lvls for the Half-Dragon template class seems really cool I'll have to check that out in a few.

The Insanity
2018-06-04, 06:38 AM
There's an adventure somewhere, I believe in one of the Dragon or Dungeon magazines, where one of the NPCs is a half-dragon elf Sorcerer ( I think) that wasn't born to a dragon. The fluff justification is that she researched a ritual that let her use a dragon soul to become a half-dragon. So there's a precedense.

Jack_Simth
2018-06-04, 07:17 AM
a couple other options are to double PaO into yourself with the half dragon template (someone might come along and tell that PaO can't do templates, but iirc it can), It's a bit of weirdness.

Polymorph Any Object (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/polymorphAnyObject.htm) includes "This spell functions like polymorph, except...", Polymorph (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/polymorph.htm) includes "This spell functions like alter self, except..." and Alter Self (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/alterSelf.htm) includes "You cannot take the form of any creature with a template, even if that template doesn’t change the creature type or subtype."

Neither Polymorph nor Polymorph Any Object explicitly change the "no templates" restriction from Alter Self. Some folks may argue that PaO throws out most (if not all) restrictions on such things, but good luck getting your DM to OK that.

evyldead
2018-06-05, 01:58 AM
It's a bit of weirdness.

Polymorph Any Object (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/polymorphAnyObject.htm) includes "This spell functions like polymorph, except...", Polymorph (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/polymorph.htm) includes "This spell functions like alter self, except..." and Alter Self (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/alterSelf.htm) includes "You cannot take the form of any creature with a template, even if that template doesn’t change the creature type or subtype."

Neither Polymorph nor Polymorph Any Object explicitly change the "no templates" restriction from Alter Self. Some folks may argue that PaO throws out most (if not all) restrictions on such things, but good luck getting your DM to OK that.

So if ran through thuroughly, and very careful word play to the DM. I could use PaO to become Half-Dragon and gain the template?

Also curious as to that dragon or dungeon mag, that was mentioned on what could possibly be done to do a ritual or something.

Malimar
2018-06-05, 10:01 PM
You can't PAO into a half-dragon, so just PAO yourself into something with ten levels of Dragon Disciple. Easy!