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Goaty14
2018-06-07, 05:35 PM
So if a PC gets the incorporeal subtype, they lose their STR score and basically pass through just about anything (like a ghost). So how can such a PC wield anything (weapons, armor, items, etc) if they'r incorporeal?

Also, how does such a PC damage enemies?

Anthrowhale
2018-06-07, 05:46 PM
So if a PC gets the incorporeal subtype, they lose their STR score and basically pass through just about anything (like a ghost). So how can such a PC wield anything (weapons, armor, items, etc) if they'r incorporeal?

Also, how does such a PC damage enemies?

A ghost can wield a ghost touch weapon and savage species has some rules for making any magic item usable by incorporeals.

Venger
2018-06-07, 05:51 PM
take ghostly grasp.

here's how you kill incorporeal monsters (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/typesSubtypes.htm#incorporealSubtype)

MaxiDuRaritry
2018-06-07, 05:52 PM
For a barbarian in particular, I'd suggest going with the whirling frenzy variant, instead of rage. And since incorporeal creatures tend to lose both their Str and Con scores, unless the character has some way to supplement (or outright replace) those stats for attack, damage, and time spent in a rage (/frenzy), said effect will only last for Con+3 rounds, or 3 rounds total.

Then again, with the Ghostly Grasp feat, he should still be able to apply the Str score he used to have, as he still has a corporeal body on the Ethereal Plane, which still has a Str score there. Assuming he's a ghost, that is.

mabriss lethe
2018-06-07, 07:57 PM
For a barbarian in particular, I'd suggest going with the whirling frenzy variant, instead of rage. And since incorporeal creatures tend to lose both their Str and Con scores, unless the character has some way to supplement (or outright replace) those stats for attack, damage, and time spent in a rage (/frenzy), said effect will only last for Con+3 rounds, or 3 rounds total.

Then again, with the Ghostly Grasp feat, he should still be able to apply the Str score he used to have, as he still has a corporeal body on the Ethereal Plane, which still has a Str score there. Assuming he's a ghost, that is.

Ghostwalk's Ghost template is a pretty easy fix to maintain your Con score, (and Str for that matter, but it's irrelevant 90% of the time due to incorporeality)

Andor13
2018-06-07, 09:54 PM
So if a PC gets the incorporeal subtype, they lose their STR score and basically pass through just about anything (like a ghost). So how can such a PC wield anything (weapons, armor, items, etc) if they'r incorporeal?

Also, how does such a PC damage enemies?

Look for the guy in the subway next to the broken vending machine, he can teach you.

Thurbane
2018-06-07, 10:08 PM
For a barbarian in particular, I'd suggest going with the whirling frenzy variant, instead of rage. And since incorporeal creatures tend to lose both their Str and Con scores, unless the character has some way to supplement (or outright replace) those stats for attack, damage, and time spent in a rage (/frenzy), said effect will only last for Con+3 rounds, or 3 rounds total.

Fun fact: Ghostwalk (already mentioned for other reasons) tosses a bone (pun somewhat unintended) to Undead Barbarians (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?520603):


Barbarian: There are not many barbarians among the undead, but gangs of barbarian ghouls and ghasts are used as shock troops by the more powerful lords of Xaphan. A raging undead barbarian does not gain an increase in Constitution (or anything dependent upon Constitution such as hit points or Fortitude saves) but uses its normal Charisma modifier instead of its Constitution modifier to determine how long a rage lasts. Because undead are immune to fatigue, an undead barbarian is not penalized when a rage ends.

In regards to the OP: how did the character become Incorpreal?

The Phantom Template (MM5) offers the benefits of being incorporeal without most of the associated drawbacks.

ShurikVch
2018-06-09, 09:35 AM
There is one more possibility:
Tremendous Charge feat (Dragonlance Campaign Setting) allow to use your mount's Str score for damage bonus
Shared Fury feat (Races of the Wild) allow to share effects of your Rage with your Animal Companion

So, dip in Beastmaster, ride your Animal Companion, Rage...

It's kinda roundabout way, and feat-heavy - Tremendous Charge, Mounted Combat, Shared Fury, Skill Focus (Handle Animal), very possible Ghostly Grasp, possible Natural Bond - but still works