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Foxydono
2018-06-19, 05:57 PM
I'm creating a level 20 character for a one-shot. Since the character will only be used once, the DM is pretty lenient and allowed me to play a Faerie Dragon created by Ninja Prawn. I will post a link below so everyone can see its abilities.

https://ibb.co/djnA5J

The ability scores I rolled are as follows (racial bonuses and penalty are already included in these scores):

STR: 13
DEX: 18
CON: 13
WIS: 12
INT: 10
CHA: 18

I want to create a support character. It doesn't have to do damage, but I want lots of options. One build I was considering is Oath of the Ancients Paladin 7 / Lore Bard 10 / ? 3. This would give good support with its aura and I could take http://engl393-dnd5th.wikia.com/wiki/Circle_of_Power for more aura goodies. I can take counterspell obviously and maybe three level of sorcerer for meta magic.

The main question is whether you like the build and if so what would you change or do differently?
If you do not like it, what other fun support build would you recommend?

CTurbo
2018-06-19, 06:24 PM
I love the concept but I think 13 Str is way too high for a housecat sized character. I'd switch Str and Int


As awesome as the Paladin's auras are, it REALLY doesn't fit the concept IMO. Smites would be wasted unless you're going to do 1 slashing damage with your claw and then "Smite" with that which would be possible by RAW, but silly to think about.

I'd probably go full Lore Bard with MAYBE a few levels of Tome Warlock for extra cantrips, ritual casting, etc... and/or maybe a couple of Rogue levels for more expertise and Cunning Action.

Ninja_Prawn
2018-06-20, 01:57 AM
The paladin does get access to some useful healing spells - it might be worth two levels of paladin just to be able to pick 5 of your choice every day. But in general I agree that paladin is going to be a tough gig for a faerie dragon.

Bard or warlock would be more sensible; the faerie dragon in my current game is a land druid, which also works out pretty well as a flexible support role.

Foxydono
2018-06-20, 10:58 PM
I love the concept but I think 13 Str is way too high for a housecat sized character. I'd switch Str and Int


As awesome as the Paladin's auras are, it REALLY doesn't fit the concept IMO. Smites would be wasted unless you're going to do 1 slashing damage with your claw and then "Smite" with that which would be possible by RAW, but silly to think about.

I'd probably go full Lore Bard with MAYBE a few levels of Tome Warlock for extra cantrips, ritual casting, etc... and/or maybe a couple of Rogue levels for more expertise and Cunning Action.
I didn't pick paladin for smites, I agree that would be a bit silly and I probably wouldn't use it. Full lore bard is one of the best support characters there is, but I wanted to try something more unusual. But I do agree that picking paladin just for its aura might be a waste. Going rogue could prove useful, but since I've already got expertise and I won't be sneak attacking, it will be mainly for cunning action. Warlock can be fun, but I'm not sure its worth the levels. Maybe for some side dps, but it doesn't really fit the concept of this character. Its a shame lore bard 18 is too good to pass up, otherwise I would have been tempted to do lore bard 17 / sorcerer 3.


The paladin does get access to some useful healing spells - it might be worth two levels of paladin just to be able to pick 5 of your choice every day. But in general I agree that paladin is going to be a tough gig for a faerie dragon.

Bard or warlock would be more sensible; the faerie dragon in my current game is a land druid, which also works out pretty well as a flexible support role.
I agree bard warlock is really strong, you do decent ranged damage consistently and you are good at support, but as I said in my reply to CTurbo, I don't see my character running around blasting stuff (just like I don't see him smiting). A land druid might be worth a look though, I haven't given it much thought. I will have a look at it today!

CTurbo
2018-06-21, 12:12 AM
I didn't pick paladin for smites, I agree that would be a bit silly and I probably wouldn't use it. Full lore bard is one of the best support characters there is, but I wanted to try something more unusual. But I do agree that picking paladin just for its aura might be a waste. Going rogue could prove useful, but since I've already got expertise and I won't be sneak attacking, it will be mainly for cunning action. Warlock can be fun, but I'm not sure its worth the levels. Maybe for some side dps, but it doesn't really fit the concept of this character. Its a shame lore bard 18 is too good to pass up, otherwise I would have been tempted to do lore bard 17 / sorcerer 3.


I agree bard warlock is really strong, you do decent ranged damage consistently and you are good at support, but as I said in my reply to CTurbo, I don't see my character running around blasting stuff (just like I don't see him smiting). A land druid might be worth a look though, I haven't given it much thought. I will have a look at it today!

You could build a total non blasting Lore Bard/Tomelock Fey or GOO.

Tome is amazing for utility. You could also get a regular familiar! Lol

How hilarious would it be to go Chain lock and have a Psuedodragon familiar? Haha

Land Druid makes you MAD