Azernak0
2018-06-21, 08:11 AM
I never actually noticed before that Grab deals damage based on the attack that established the hold. Been playing 15 years, missed it 3.5 and Pathfinder until yesterday. Whoops...
I understand how Grab works in order to start a Grapple: Bear bites you. Bear does damage. Bear attacks your CMD. You are Grappled.
Now it's your turn. You fail to get out of Grapple. This is where I start to get a little foggy. Flow chart (https://200e02f3-a-62cb3a1a-s-sites.googlegroups.com/site/pathfinderogc/images/grapple_flow_chart-02.png?attachauth=ANoY7cp75y7ebEU5BBNLJiGu6IT0y35D ZynmvAlHQqNNj1rsBZil8Ctu2Q90zHHrdwCh9mWjGkdluuSdfL j7hgB3oxpy5ZTStH4jgxisNmWWHJzWImeqs7f0AFc4kfibs4A7 8E1GQUnvzuFQhllTZFvkLk9onRdr00V-eO1715TYuAYD13ZeFcn8_3BPIJBq0JIaYFXy28ktT4zdwo0kdX ymXoEuJ-fBE_L_O-2ycNxl4RdAOkD02GE%3D&attredirects=1) shows that the options an attacker has after making a successful maintain grapple check are move, pin, 'nothing', and damage opponent. Does a creature with grab basically deal double bite damage with a successful grapple check if it decides to deal damage instead of pin/move/'nothing'?
What about Greater Grapple?
Standard action bite, deal 1d8+4 damage. Become Grappled.
Move Action maintain grapple, deal 1d8+4 due to Grab, deal 1d8+4 due to Grapple check?
I understand how Grab works in order to start a Grapple: Bear bites you. Bear does damage. Bear attacks your CMD. You are Grappled.
Now it's your turn. You fail to get out of Grapple. This is where I start to get a little foggy. Flow chart (https://200e02f3-a-62cb3a1a-s-sites.googlegroups.com/site/pathfinderogc/images/grapple_flow_chart-02.png?attachauth=ANoY7cp75y7ebEU5BBNLJiGu6IT0y35D ZynmvAlHQqNNj1rsBZil8Ctu2Q90zHHrdwCh9mWjGkdluuSdfL j7hgB3oxpy5ZTStH4jgxisNmWWHJzWImeqs7f0AFc4kfibs4A7 8E1GQUnvzuFQhllTZFvkLk9onRdr00V-eO1715TYuAYD13ZeFcn8_3BPIJBq0JIaYFXy28ktT4zdwo0kdX ymXoEuJ-fBE_L_O-2ycNxl4RdAOkD02GE%3D&attredirects=1) shows that the options an attacker has after making a successful maintain grapple check are move, pin, 'nothing', and damage opponent. Does a creature with grab basically deal double bite damage with a successful grapple check if it decides to deal damage instead of pin/move/'nothing'?
What about Greater Grapple?
Standard action bite, deal 1d8+4 damage. Become Grappled.
Move Action maintain grapple, deal 1d8+4 due to Grab, deal 1d8+4 due to Grapple check?