Prestiege Class Help

[GuestEleven]

Hey there, I am playing a Wizard in an upcoming game. I can't find any hard rules on this so I thought I would ask around here. So my current level distribution is looking like 3 Wizard 5 Red Wizard 10 Master Specialist and 2 Archmage. I am playing an Evocation specialist.

I've got two questions. Firstly will the Magic Blooded template's +2 Spellcraft make me eligible for Red Wizard at level 2? Secondly if not can I pick up Master Specialist for levels 4 and 5, level up is Red Wizard five times, then return to Master Specialist without penalty?

Thanks in advance.

[Zaq]

Prereqs care about actual ranks, not bonuses. Unless that template gives you extra actual ranks, it won’t help you qualify early.

It’s totally legal, barring a class-specific rule to the contrary, to enter one PrC, take some levels, enter a second PrC, then return to the first one. Even if your GM uses multiclassing penalties for some reason, PrCs explicitly never cause multiclass penalties, so that’s not a concern either.

[GuestEleven]

Prereqs care about actual ranks, not bonuses. Unless that template gives you extra actual ranks, it won’t help you qualify early.

It’s totally legal, barring a class-specific rule to the contrary, to enter one PrC, take some levels, enter a second PrC, then return to the first one. Even if your GM uses multiclassing penalties for some reason, PrCs explicitly never cause multiclass penalties, so that’s not a concern either.

Awesome. :D It is hard for me to tell if it is a plus 2 bonus or actual ranks. It just says '+2 Knowledge (arcana), +2 Spellcraft, Both usable untrained'. My best guess is that it is just a bonus, but it doesn't say bonus, it just says skills. Given that it is a template maybe it is ranks instead, it reads more like a monster entry than an ability that Grant's a bonus.

[BowStreetRunner]

Awesome. :D It is hard for me to tell if it is a plus 2 bonus or actual ranks. It just says '+2 Knowledge (arcana), +2 Spellcraft, Both usable untrained'. My best guess is that it is just a bonus, but it doesn't say bonus, it just says skills. Given that it is a template maybe it is ranks instead, it reads more like a monster entry than an ability that Grant's a bonus.
"If you buy a class skill, your character gets 1 rank (equal to a +1 bonus on checks with that skill) for each skill point. If you buy other classes’ skills (cross-class skills), you get ½ rank per skill point."SRD (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/skillsSummary.htm)
Generally, speaking, ranks are something you purchase with skill points. Everything else, unless it specifically states it grants ranks, is just a bonus. Primary Contact (Cityscape 61) is the only thing I can think of that gives you bonus ranks.

[GuestEleven]

"If you buy a class skill, your character gets 1 rank (equal to a +1 bonus on checks with that skill) for each skill point. If you buy other classes’ skills (cross-class skills), you get ½ rank per skill point."SRD (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/skillsSummary.htm)
Generally, speaking, ranks are something you purchase with skill points. Everything else, unless it specifically states it grants ranks, is just a bonus. Primary Contact (Cityscape 61) is the only thing I can think of that gives you bonus ranks.

I gotcha. Real unfortunate though.

[16bearswutIdo]

How are you qualifying for RW at CL4? You need 8 ranks in it to qualify in the first place.

[Fouredged Sword]

How are you qualifying for RW at CL4? You need 8 ranks in it to qualify in the first place.

Pretty sure he is taking master specialist THEN red wizard