3.x - Currency Spending Itself

[unseenmage]

Had this idea, to use Minor Servitor (Savage Species, 3.0) to animate a volume of gold or other wealth and have it go sell itself in exchange for goods or services.
(Yes this spell was turned into Awaken Construct in Spell Compendium, GM has okayed it anyway.)

The goal is to have the Construct do the shopping autonomously and for there to be nothing magical left of it in the marketplace when the shopping's done.
There should be a way to imbue it with spells it can activate as needed so when it's done it can Dispel itself somehow thereby becoming an inert pile of wealth again.

Commanding it is easy enough via boosted Diplomancy or Greater Humanoid Essence + mind control.

Platinum wire strung with coinage, bars, and/or gems given a humanoid shape. The Minor Servitor spell will give it sentience and speech while other magics/Constructs will give it orders and a means to do the shopping.


Some questions,

How long is 1gp worth of platinum wire?

How could the Minor Servitor dispel itself?

What could one expect of its skill and feat loadout? Should it have trouble bartering?

Is there a spell that will allow it to send purchased goods back to home base? If not what would be the best method it could buy?

[thethird]

For large sums why not craft a gold golem (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/re/20030901a)?

[unseenmage]

For large sums why not craft a gold golem (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/re/20030901a)?

Because only the creator can spend part of it. That and building Golems via magic resetting traps isn't something I've figured out how to accomplish. Yet.

[noob]

Because only the creator can spend part of it. That and building Golems via magic resetting traps isn't something I've figured out how to accomplish. Yet.

Depending on whenever you consider golems are enough close to magical items or not you can produce them with wish or with magically resetting traps of unseen crafter + a feat that allows to use craft to create magical items.(if you consider they are not magical items you will have an hard time creating them)

[unseenmage]

Depending on whenever you consider golems are enough close to magical items or not you can produce them with wish or with magically resetting traps of unseen crafter + a feat that allows to use craft to create magical items.(if you consider they are not magical items you will have an hard time creating them)
Closest I've gotten to an autonomous spells only magic item crafting is a summoning variant where you always summon the same creature and using that to conjure an outsider with full casting and item creation feats.
Never could figure out how to get it to last more than a few rounds though.

Wish cheese is of course forbidden as it's just too easy.

[noob]

Closest I've gotten to an autonomous spells only magic item crafting is a summoning variant where you always summon the same creature and using that to conjure an outsider with full casting and item creation feats.
Never could figure out how to get it to last more than a few rounds though.

Wish cheese is of course forbidden as it's just too easy.

You might try mirror of opposition on creatures which only ability is to create constructs and give them only gold and no other raw materials.
Then the created creatures starts creating constructs for fighting the original making matches lasting possibly months.
Or you might create an automated redeemery that then starts planar binding various outsiders and redeeming them and hypnotizing them to create the desired constructs.
(ps: it is possible to consider planar binding is cheeze)
Or you might make a redeemery that goes around and capture people and make them craft the desired constructs(redeeming them make them less likely to revolt especially if you only make each person only create one gold construct)

[unseenmage]

You might try mirror of opposition on creatures which only ability is to create constructs and give them only gold and no other raw materials.
Then the created creatures starts creating constructs for fighting the original making matches lasting possibly months.
Or you might create an automated redeemery that then starts planar binding various outsiders and redeeming them and hypnotizing them to create the desired constructs.
(ps: it is possible to consider planar binding is cheeze)
Or you might make a redeemery that goes around and capture people and make them craft the desired constructs(redeeming them make them less likely to revolt especially if you only make each person only create one gold construct)
Please define 'redeemery'.

And yeah, Binding is definitely cheese.

[noob]

Please define 'redeemery'.

And yeah, Binding is definitely cheese.

A place where we trap and inflict negative levels to people and then hypnotize them giving them varied commands such as "seek redemption" and then use the redemption rules from the book of exalted deeds(and we usually polymorph any object demons so that the rule excluding evil outsiders does not apply(and if the outsider is a shape changer it is not hard to threaten it to do more serious redemption methods such as sanctify the wicked if the demon shape-shifts back in outsiderness))
An intelligent airship with automatic hypnotize traps and some traps inflicting negative levels commanded by the airship could do the work of a redeemery(and make the speech)
Of course do not forget to include delicious cooking and varied things so that it counts as quality imprisonment.(it needs to be better than the kind of imprisonment the other would do to you if he captured you)

[unseenmage]

A place where we trap and inflict negative levels to people and then hypnotize them giving them varied commands such as "seek redemption" and then use the redemption rules from the book of exalted deeds(and we usually polymorph any object demons so that the rule excluding evil outsiders does not apply(and if the outsider is a shape changer it is not hard to threaten it to do more serious redemption methods such as sanctify the wicked if the demon shape-shifts back in outsiderness))
An intelligent airship with automatic hypnotize traps and some traps inflicting negative levels commanded by the airship could do the work of a redeemery(and make the speech)
Of course do not forget to include delicious cooking and varied things so that it counts as quality imprisonment.(it needs to be better than the kind of imprisonment the other would do to you if he captured you)
Hmm, definitely food for thought.
There's a swarm of Flying Intelligent Magic Item quarterstaff one of my characters employs that could probably pull similar shenaniganery.
Thanks for the idea.

For now though I'm still going to try to make this Minor Servitor idea work. Or get it as close as possible.

[Goaty14]

What prevents a commoner, a sack, and a mule from stealing your beloved coins?

[noob]

What prevents a commoner, a sack, and a mule from stealing your beloved coins?

The coins smashing the commoner with an attack of opportunity?

[unseenmage]

The coins smashing the commoner with an attack of opportunity?

Basically this, yeah.

The benefit of Minor Servitor is that it can think for itself and react to threats dynamically.

[unseenmage]

Am quasi remembering that one can make tattoos of spells and put them on other creatures for later use...

Anybody know what I'm talking about?

Would magic tattoos on Constructs be a no-no?


EDIT
The Imbue With Spell Ability spell is basically exactly what I want, but those restrictions HURT.

The Tattoo Magic feat from Races of Faerun is perfect too, except the point is to not to have to be there at all.

[unseenmage]

Resetting magic traps, Runic Guardians, Summon Monster 9 for outsiders that cast 9ths as either Cleric or Wizard, Energy Transformation Field, or Intelligent Magic Items could all work as sources for the spells to make the below work.

True Creation to make the wealth.
Positioned correctly it could theoretically make the Construct body like one big puzzle assembled piecemeal or we could just incorporate Fabricate.

Greater Glyph of Warding to give the thing access to Dispel Magic.

Then Minor Servitor to make it a Construct.
Here we could incorporate Greater Humanoid Essence and Telepathic Bond to relay commands.

Then Imbue With Spell Ability to let it cast Guidance of the Avatar and similar.

Then use a Teleportation Circle or Gate to send it to the desired locale for shopping.

Not sure how to give it access to Teleport Object or similar so it can send the goods home.

At the end it activates the Glyph storing Dispel Magic and becomes inert wealth as payment for goods or services rendered.
The wire frame that carries the wealth could be the actual Construct too. In which case the Greater Glyph of Warding just holds a Plane Shift to the private demiplane.

Alternatively, Intelligent Magic Item Planar Ring Gates with built in at will Telekinesis, Greater Teleport, and Greater Plane Shift could also run errands pretty well. But be horrendously expensive.