Alter Self plus Martial Arts

[holywhippet]

So if a monk (somehow) casts alter self on themselves does their unarmed attack gain +1 to attack and damage always while damage is 1d6 or higher based on martial arts progression?

[nickl_2000]

Yes that is correct.

[sophontteks]

Natural weapons can't be used with martial arts as seen with wildshape monks. They can use unarmed attacks as a bear, but they only roll martial arts die. I think, because this +1 is for the natural weapons, you only get to use it if you aren't using martial arts.

Thats only RAW as far as I can tell. Surely its sensible to allow it.

[RazorChain]

Natural weapons can't be used with martial arts as seen with wildshape monks. They can use unarmed attacks as a bear, but they only roll martial arts die. I think, because this +1 is for the natural weapons, you only get to use it if you aren't using martial arts.

Thats only RAW as far as I can tell. Surely its sensible to allow it.

This is not true and can clearly be seen in the movie Kung Fu Panda

[PeteNutButter]

Natural weapons can't be used with martial arts as seen with wildshape monks. They can use unarmed attacks as a bear, but they only roll martial arts die. I think, because this +1 is for the natural weapons, you only get to use it if you aren't using martial arts.

Thats only RAW as far as I can tell. Surely its sensible to allow it.

But Alter Self specifically says “your unarmed strikes...” so it totally works with monks. Short of having a ring of spell storing or something similar it’d require a 3 level dip in a MAD class for what is +1 to hit and damage, still probably not worth it in most cases.