OOTS #312 - The Discussion Thread

[The Giant]

New comic is up.

[icelator]

I always laugh at the buffalo wings and chicken fingers jokes.

woot first post somehow

[rbaird]

First time poster, just really liked the ninja waiter. Once again, great comic.

[Reborn]

Very cool.

First page!!

And I prefer you having two early strips a week to 3 midnight ones a week :)

[DarkCorax]

A long time lurker has finally come to post...

lol ^^ Ninja Waiter great!
...And the Restaurant is called T.G.I. Wednesday!
... Food Delivery Technician!! :D
... and love the last panel!

... in other words great Comic Giant!

Edit: First post ever and got First Page!!

Edit2: spelling + new yays

[KaroLunel]

Very funny

"Relax Harold, we're supposed to be having a nice dinner together!"
;D

I wonder what Vaarsuvius was going to say about the other people with high charisma scores. ::)

[kasib]

Nice pure comedy-oriented episode for a change. Brilliant.

[Eloco]

Nice last panel!

Not so nice Belkar!

[TinSoldier]

Durkon: Nice Dodge.
Waiter: Ninja.

That was the best joke. Even better than the buffalo wings.

The last panel kinda reminds me of the Geico commercials with the Neanderthals.

[EscherEnigma]

"nonexistant appendages of an endangered species"

Heh.

And isn't this little team bonding dinner shaping up nicely?

[Eriol]

Just in case anybody asks, they're called Buffalo Wings because they were invented (or commonly thought to have been invented... not interested in a debate on it) in Buffalo, NY. If they were invented in Chicago, they'd be known as Chicago Wings.


Still, good for a small chuckle.


Nitpick I know is going to come up: why do buffalos HAVE to be endangered in that world?

Answering myself: why not? The Giant can make anything endangered/not that he wants.


/becomes schitzophrenic...

;)

[Kiroho]

"Calm down Harold..." That was priceless.

Giant - well done, again.

<edit - misquote>

[Baxder]

...I prefer you having two early strips a week to 3 midnight ones a week :)

Word. I was pleasantly surprised to see the new thread up!

"Nice dodge"
"Ninja"

haha

Edit: As much as I hate seeing it - Woot! First page!

[Mike]

Poor waitress.

<nitpick>Last panel, a typo. "May" should be "my," if I'm not mistaken. Also, the buffalo's wings never show up until the last panel, even though they should be peeking out from behind the whole time.</nitpick>

[cyberchihuahua]

*obligitory first page Woot!

I don't know if I will ever be able to decide between Belkar and Durkon. Both simply steal the show for me.

Now we need to have a contest between ninja waitresses and pirate bartenders. ;D

[Nerd-o-rama]

Ninja School...

I love this comic.

A great bit of probably-plotless humor for laugh-inducing. And in the middle of the day, too.

EDIT: Damn, missed first page by a minute.

[Doug_Lampert]

Very funny

"Relax Harold, we're supposed to be having a nice dinner together!"
;D

I wonder what Vaarsuvius was going to say about the other people with high charisma scores. ::)
I think he SHOULD go over there and and do something about Belkar.

The people with high Charisma scores are out separately on dates, so they aren't there to help get a good seat.

[titan_monarch]

It was the minor jokes in this one that had me laughing, because the main punchline was so predictable the moment I read "buffalo wings". But "TGI Wednesdays" made me laugh so loudly that my dad, who was standing nearby at the time, gave me a funny look. The best line in this strip for me, though, the one that actually made me fall off my chair laughing, was when Belkar threw the plate, and Durkon muttered "Nice dodge!" to which the waitress replied "Ninja." Pure comedy all through the strip.

[EDIT] I was going to say "First page, for the first time ever!" but a whole page of replies appeared as I was writing this!

[n11]

I notice that one of the extras "forgot" to remove their glasses before going "on stage" (first panel).

V, Durkon, and Belkar (his size is not well disguised while sitting), the wallflowers of OOTS.

[The Giant]

<nitpick>Also, the buffalo's wings never show up until the last panel, even though they should be peeking out from behind the whole time.</nitpick>

She was in the Ladies' Room for the first 9 panels. :P

[rat_bastard]

well, that certanly came out of left feild...

but you can have a buffilo with wings! you just give it the half dragon template! no as for explaining why a dragon got it on with a buffilo, well...

[Maxymiuk]

Huzzah for ninja waitresses!

The charisma comment was probably in relation to them ending up in an otherwise crappy restaurant.

[Nlannie]

haha great :D

belkar is the best

[Baxder]

V, Durkon, and Belkar (his size is not well disguised while sitting), the wallflowers of OOTS.

You know, upon re-reading the strip, I am amusingly yet regretfully (quote in mind) reminded of those high-school years 3AM outings to Dennys with my band-geek friends. I think the whole "buffalo wing" conversation is even ringing a bell....

*shudder*

[Morchaint]

great comic!
ninja waitress LOL

2nd page go me.

buffalo with wings in next booth ROTFMAO
*falls off computer chair* *dies laughin----------------

[Itdano]

"Nice dodge."
"Ninja"

Awesome.

[GoGoHalfElfRanger]

Very fun. Reminds me of dining out and getting weirded out by stuff on the menu. Though I've never had a ninja waitress.

[Nolgoth]

I haven't posted in ages, but the whole idea of a waitress putting herself through ninja school on tips is hilarious. She is not a very good ninja though, if she is telling people about it. Maybe now she has to kill them. Better cast detect poison on their food just to be safe.

[Eriol]

<nitpick>Last panel, a typo. "May" should be "my," if I'm not mistaken.</nitpick>
You're not wrong.

[Kanashimi]

-Nice Dodge

-Ninja.

gv gv gv gv gv gv gv

Great one.

[DeathQuaker]

Very fun. Reminds me of dining out and getting weirded out by stuff on the menu. Though I've never had a ninja waitress.

Really? I think every waitress I've had--especially at TGIF or Ruby Tuesday's--has been a ninja waitress. I'm actually grateful Rich has finally explained where they all come from! Seriously, and mine always "poof" in as soon as my mouth's full.

Ninja Waitress: *poof!* Hi, how is everything?
Me: *choking from startlement, mouth full of food* Mph, edrllakfrmotter
Ninja Waitress: Uh huh, great! Well, let me know if you need anything! *poofs, never to be seen again until the meal is finished*
Me: *swallows, sighs* I said I wanted some water.

Happens ALL the TIME.

Really, awesome comic. Every panel's got a good line. And I've heard the buffalo joke before, but it's SO appropriate coming from Belkar.

[Squall83]

Yay! New comic! ^^

btw: In Belkars last speech bubble is a small typo. He says: "It's not may fault my mouth..."
It should be: "It's not my fault my mouth..."

[CADragon]

Is the ninja waitress the girl who invited Elan to room 115 in #302?

Just asking...

[HypnoticMonk]

LOL I love all the jokes , both subtle and obvious, And I've had a similiar discussion with a waitress before(minus the throwing of the chicken parts)

what can I say? I was a surreal person in college..(and yes even now I remain that way. I was managing a bookstore and one of my employees brought a gentleman over to me. She said "He wants to know if we have any books on goats." I looked at the two of them and with my best straight face replied "No we put our books on shelves. When we tried putting books on animals, they would just fall to the ground"

btw, he got the joke, she didnt...sigh

[khalid]

ninja watiers are so much better than pirate waiters.

hooks can't hold all those dishes.

[n11]

Is the ninja waitress the girl who inivited Elan to room 115 in #302?

Just asking...

Different hairstyle, so my judgement was no for my "Character Appearances (http://www.giantitp.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=comics;action=display;num=1139035266 )" thread.

[Bruendor_Cavescout]

Shinobi trained waitresses. This explains a lot.

I wonder if the Geico cavemen are sitting right behind the winged buffalos, having a similar conversation.

"I can't believe they're stealing our joke!"

At which point, Jessica Simpson pokes her head in from off-panel, saying, "I know! Class action lawsuit?"

Sorry, just saw a bunch of "reimagined" jokes being used in this comic. TGIW is great, though!

[Wrecan]

Ninja waitress needs more training. Belkar was able to both Spot and Listen to her (although not hit her).

[Baloo]

I was pleasantly surprised to see the comic up this early, and a funny one too. :)

But now I'll have to wait five days for more on Celia/Roy or Haley/Elan :(

[Harliquinn]

I believe V was going to say that all the party members with Charisma..."Are out on dates."

[Amaroq]

"Nice dodge!"

"Ninja!"

reminded me of one of my favorite lines....

"You cheated!"

"Pirate."

[TheWanderingLlama]

Well, Buffalo Wings makes less in a world where they don't have a Buffalo, New York, you know. TGI Wednesdays! *snicker*

third page?

[Melnor]

I KNEW my guardian angel was a buffalo!
And they sad I was crazy *twitch twitch*

P.S. Yay for comics up on time!

[Vaniel]

Hey, nice job on the comic. Totally loved the ending.

Intelligent buffalo with wings.... That must be fun to play in a DnD campaign? Hahaha

[Zaruthustran]

It makes total sense for Belkar to want to dine on Half-Celestial buffalos.

http://www.systemreferencedocuments.org/35/sovelior_sage/monstersHtoI.html#half-celestial

[Nazzo, the 102nd]

Gotta love this one. Love the "Ninja." line from the waitress. Great comic, Giant.

Dunno why, but this comic kinda reminded me of the classic joke of the Monkey Island games.

"Look behind you! A three-headed monkey!"

Talking about non-existant winged buffaloes and they appear just behind you. :)

[Nerd-o-rama]

You know what the sad thing is? It took me over an hour to get "TGI Wednesday's"

[zibeck]

So wait, Durkon doesn't have a decent charisma?

That must really hinder his turning ability.

[HyperJen]

Funniest comic in a long time imho. I literally laughed out loud twice. Which is problematic as I'm at work and people wanted to know what was so funny.

Me: Buffalo wings and ninja waitresses.
Them: ... you are so weird.

*still giggling*

[n11]

Intelligent buffalo with wings.... That must be fun to play in a DnD campaign? Hahaha

Start with Bison (Int 2, Cha 4).
Give it a headband of intellect +6 (raises Int to 8)
Teach it to read draconic.
Have it read a Tome of Leadership and Influence +5 (raises Cha to 9)
Customize a Cloak of Charisma +6 for the bison (raises Cha to 15)
Have the bison advance eight levels of sorcerer (using its one skill point per level in Knowledge(arcana)).
Have the bison advance nine levels in dragon disciple, this grants wings.

Behold, a winged buffalo!! (very rare indeed)

[TheLastOfTheFallen]

Start with Bison (Int 2, Cha 4).
Give it a headband of intellect +6 (raises Int to 8)
Teach it to read draconic.
Have it read a Tome of Leadership and Influence +5 (raises Cha to 9)
Customize a Cloak of Charisma +6 for the bison (raises Cha to 15)
Have the bison advance eight levels of sorcerer (using its one skill point per level in Knowledge(arcana)).
Have the bison advance nine levels in dragon disciple, this grants wings.

Behold, a winged buffalo!! (very rare indeed)




Or just, you know, awaken a buffalo and give it the winged template from savage species. :P

[Gregor_LeBlaque]

She was in the Ladies' Room for the first 9 panels. :P

I was going to suggest that she only raised her wings like that at the end when she got irritated. She was sitting calmly through the first 9 panels and they were folded on her back (out of frame).

Fear the plumage display of the angered buffalo! :)

[Swashbuckler]

GO BELKAR!!

I'm right there with ya, man. Freakin' restaurants and their durned deceptive menu items! MORE BUFFALO, LESS CHICKEN!! ;D ;D

[Albion]

This one worked really well to me. ;D Just lots of neatness. I'll have to make a some kind of collection of V's... cursing/rage.

[Zann]

Loved it. Completely.

Another great comic, Giant.

[infiniteviking]

Eating with Belkar and Durkon!? That settles it. V's not only a guy, he's a masochist. (And if he's a bit jittery, he's probably still recovering from that one... word.....) XD

Loooove the ninja jokes. There's a lady after my own heart. One can only regret that she's not allowed to hone her skills on various rude jerks.

And Vaarsuvius is evidently as well versed in bureacratese as in any other language. 'Food delivery technician'? Lol! Who's he kidding, then -- he's got Charisma coming out of his pointy ears.

Those buffaloes should totally join the group. Yeah!

Great comic!

[jmaccabeus]

Or just, you know, awaken a buffalo and give it the winged template from savage species. :P


No, too easy. That's just what they'd expect us to do.



I just like "food delivery technician". The sort of convoluted names people come up with these days to make their jobs sound more important... ;)

[DeathQuaker]

Ninja waitress needs more training. Belkar was able to both Spot and Listen to her (although not hit her).

LOL. Sooooo true. Maybe it's only because V noticed her first. :)

[Zaruthustran]

Or just, you know, awaken a buffalo and give it the winged template from savage species. :P


Easier: introduce a boy Celestial buffalo to a girl Prime buffalo. If they like each other *very much*, a Half-Celestial buffalo (with wings) will arrive via stork.

[nekron99]

Is it me or did Belkar's Cloak make him look like he was sitting in a high chair, which is pretty dang funny btw.

[Flak_Razorwill]

Why Wednesday? Besides copyrights, of course. I like Saturday. More bleach.

So are winged buffalo in the Monster Manual? I'm not an expert by any means.

TGIF's usually has a little description under each item, so Belkar's spot check failed again, or he's just grumpy because he hasn't killed anything in over 48 hours.

[Holy_Knight]

Really? I think every waitress I've had--especially at TGIF or Ruby Tuesday's--has been a ninja waitress. I'm actually grateful Rich has finally explained where they all come from! Seriously, and mine always "poof" in as soon as my mouth's full.

Ninja Waitress: *poof!* Hi, how is everything?
Me: *choking from startlement, mouth full of food* Mph, edrllakfrmotter
Ninja Waitress: Uh huh, great! Well, let me know if you need anything! *poofs, never to be seen again until the meal is finished*
Me: *swallows, sighs* I said I wanted some water.

Happens ALL the TIME.

Really, awesome comic. Every panel's got a good line. And I've heard the buffalo joke before, but it's SO appropriate coming from Belkar.

I know! That always happens to me too--the waitress always manages to walk up right as I've put a bite of food in my mouth! It's nice to see there's at least two other people who have that same problem...

Like everyone else, I loved the "dodging ninja waitress", but even funnier to me than the lines was just the picture of Belkar throwing the plate of food like that. For some reason that image really cracks me up! :D

Now, of course the horror ensues... can I survive 5 days without Oots? Can I survive a potentially longer wait before we see more of Haley and Elan? Good thing I have plans this weekend, or I fear I wouldn't make it...

Keep up the great work, Rich!

[n11]

Why Wednesday? Besides copyrights, of course. I like Saturday. More bleach.

So are winged buffalo in the Monster Manual? I'm not an expert by any means.

TGIF's usually has a little description under each item, so Belkar's spot check failed again, or he's just grumpy because he hasn't killed anything in over 48 hours.

But TGIW's have their menus dictated by Haley.

Bisons (without wings) are in the SRD, and my sequence of steps to get wings on a typical bison are means all available in the SRD.

[indianajoe]

Hooray for Buffalo Wings!!! ;D

[Winged One]

Ninja waitresses...how do you discover the hidden memes in our minds like this? ;D

[The Doctor]

Why Wednesday? Besides copyrights, of course.

Wednesday was about the only thing in the name I understood immediately...
I had to look up what TGIFridays actually was... thanks for wikipedia. Silly american jokes...


Edit: oh, and as I was on wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_wings

[ref]

Great comic... But why is Belkar not disguised? Could be dangerous...

Also, what's the joke with TGI Wednesday's? (Seems like another US folklore thing)

[Gary_Schaper]

Noted the -pop!- maneuver... does this mean that Blackwing is actually a ninja raven?

[The Doctor]

It's an american food chain:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T.G.I._Friday%27s

I didn't get it at first, either.

[Belkarseviltwin]

I'd call them Winged Anthropomorphic Buffalo:
Harold and his wife:
Size/Type: Medium Monstrous Humanoid
Hit Dice: 2d8+2 (11 hp)
Initiative: +1
Speed: 30 ft. (6 squares), Fly 50 ft. (good)
Armor Class: 15 (+1 Dex, +4 natural), touch 11, flat-footed 14
Base Attack/Grapple: +2/+5
Attack: Gore +5 melee (1d6+5)
Full Attack: Gore +5 melee (1d6+5)
Space/Reach: 5 ft/5 ft
Special Attacks:
Special Qualities: Low-light vision, scent, Darkvision (60 ft.)
Saves: Fort +1, Ref +6, Will +6
Abilities: Str 14, Dex 16, Con 12, Int 11, Wis 15, Cha 8
Skills: Listen +7, Spot +5
Feats: Alertness
Environment: Temperate plains, mountains or forests
Organization: Solitary or family (2-5)
Challenge Rating: 3
Advancement: By Character Class
Level Adjustment: +4
Favored Class: Druid or Fighter

[Steve_the_ERB]

I know! That always happens to me too--the waitress always manages to walk up right as I've put a bite of food in my mouth! It's nice to see there's at least two other people who have that same problem...


You are not alone. This happened often enough in college than I actually ran a game where all the players were infact ninja waiters/waitresses. They all worked at the same restautant serving food by day (and evening) and fighting crime at night. The Ninjitsu Cafe, using full cinematic GURPS Martial Arts rules (for those of you who that means anything to) was short lived but memorable.

Haven't thought about that game in a while...Thanks Rich! :)

[Eriol]

Also, what's the joke with TGI Wednesday's? (Seems like another US folklore thing)
Two aspects:

1. There's a restaurant called "TGI Fridays". Hence change the day to be in Azure City.

2. How about because the comic was RELEASED on a wednesday, and hence "TGI Wednesdays".

The 2nd one is just speculation though of course. ;)

[SWATJester]

I swear to god that I'm not joking when I say this, but when I saw "Nice dodge! - Ninja" I actually laughed so hard that I pooped myself just a little bit.

[TinSoldier]

When I read your comment, I laughed so hard that... never mind.

[a1057soul]

Just in case anybody asks, they're called Buffalo Wings because they were invented (or commonly thought to have been invented... not interested in a debate on it) in Buffalo, NY. If they were invented in Chicago, they'd be known as Chicago Wings.

As a Buffalonian, I agree. We all call them 'Wings'...
<begin historical flashback montage>
They were invented here in Buffalo, NY at the Anchor Bar (http://www.anchorbar.com/)... although there are places that make MUCH Better wings in and around the city... every pizza place has them as well.

No one else in the country quite makes them right. Although there were a few good visiting restaurants at the Wing Festival last year (http://www.buffalowing.com/), the local places are still the best.
</end historical flashback montage>

They are best deep fried, then drained, tossed thoroughly in BBQ sauce, and Char-Broiled to finish. LaNova's (big Pizza place around here) will actually FED-EX them if you want to try them done right (http://www.lanova.com).

The "Boneless Chicken Wing" that is now being offered at various places as a good evolution of the wing, but eating them is an art form, and taking the bones out just dressed up chunks of chicken breast and just makes it too easy IMO.

;-)
Dan

(Ohh and needless to say, GREAT COMIC Rich... you still rock!)

[Tyas]

The couple in the next booth are a cameo. That's why she's wearing her glasses.

[LenDragon]

Had to reply this time. Not just lurk reading as usual.

The waitress is badly trained. She should have waited until the entire party had their mouths full, so that the only possible reply to "Is everything OK here?" or "Are you enjoying your meal?" is "Mmm" with a nod.

On the other hand - Cute Ninja. The suddenly appearing part was perfect, otherwise the party get time to swallow and ask stupid questions about the anatomy of their food.

[Gary_Schaper]

Two aspects:

1. There's a restaurant called "TGI Fridays". Hence change the day to be in Azure City.

2. How about because the comic was RELEASED on a wednesday, and hence "TGI Wednesdays".
And, with Rich's summer schedule, Wednesday is now the end of the OotS week.

[fithi]

*snicker* As someone who worked in a restaurant for a while, I am muchly amused by the waitress' sudden appearance. I always enjoyed watching customers' reactions when their server always popped up from nowhere to ask how their meal was.

And the buffalo wings joke is fantastic! Great job!

Oh, and the "Nice dodge" "Ninja" bit was funny too.

All in all, a great comic.

[nightfire8199]

that was the funniest thing of my day....no really.

my day sucked. >:( :( >:( :( >:( :(

[Turgeon]

No fair.. My side hurts from laughing at this one.

[Chancelikely]

This strip just follows the rule that the statements made outside of voice bubbles are the funniest.

Oh, and Vaarsuvius' comment about low charisma should get the Class and Level Geekery thread a bit of a jump start.

[Banjo_Buddy]

The couple in the next booth are a cameo. That's why she's wearing her glasses.


Plus her name happens to be Wednesday, which might feed into the TGIWednesdays thing.

Eric Burns (complete with purple kimono, recently seen on his blog) and Wednesday White. They have (or at least he has) commented on OotS before, at http://www.websnark.com.

I was quite tickled by it.

[LostInBrittany]

Wonderful comic, even if being European I missed some of the jokes.

[Larrin]

My vote is that the Buffalo are favored souls of the Great Spirit, hence the wings.

[Mattaeu]

haha, Ninja School. yes!

great comic today. maybe cutting back posting increases comedic tendencies? :P

[Ironfang]

" Thats It! I am going over there! "

I am surprised that is not the line mentioned so far. I just totally see myself or especially my Dad getting up like that.

I just saw the whole thing playing out with the big tough guy going over there, Belkar piping back at him to "Mind his own business" more plates flying, and sadly in the end Belkar would probably get his "Buffalo Wings" while a hysterical Mrs. Buffalo looked on.

(Ooh thinking about that the dreaded "Mark of Justice" would kick in because I know Belkar could not restrain himself")

[Hoseki]

Did anyone notice 'Ninja School' references a comment Roy made in a Dungeon Crawlin' Fools bonus strip?

;D

[Omniplex]

The webcomic, already! It's not even 11:00 yet. Delightful. Belkar is such an ass. He's not being stupid here, he's just being Chaotic Evil. The buffalo were a nice touch. Kinda the same level of rediculously funny as fruit pie the sorcerer.

[Jaime]

I wonder if the waitress is going to be a major character. I mean, it's not every day you see a ninja. (I assume)

[OzymandiasVolt]

Belkar needs to read Bob and George.

[ObadiahtheSlim]

I wonder if that place is next door to S.H.I.T

Sorry Honey, It's Thursday.

[nordyboy]

... I mean, it's not every day you see a ninja. (I assume)

Well, of course not. They're ninjas! ;)

[xyzchyx]

I swear to god that I'm not joking when I say this, but when I saw "Nice dodge! - Ninja" I actually laughed so hard that I pooped myself just a little bit.I really think that everybody else here could have lived their lives quite happily in ignorance of that piece of knowledge.

[egomann]

Ninja School?

So is that Ninja College or
Ninja High School?




I am such a huge Nurd, and I am amazed that I am the first one to ask that.

[codemartin]

So now, I know ninjas are so stealthy, I must be part ninja myself because I always see my waiter/waitress :)

And I must admidt the buffalo wings, were a nice touch.

[GypsyThorn]

The reason TGIW is funny is that starting today, Fridays come on Wednesday for Rich.

(Or at least that's why I chuckled, after someone else said it took them 1/2 an hour to get the joke.)

Edited for clarity (if not hilarity)

[Knightsavior]

Ninja School?

So is that Ninja College or
Ninja High School?




I am such a huge Nurd, and I am amazed that I am the first one to ask that.

I think it's High School... and great comic by the way.

[Lloyd]

Just in case anybody asks, they're called Buffalo Wings because they were invented (or commonly thought to have been invented... not interested in a debate on it) in Buffalo, NY.

Indeed they were.... my home town. In a place called the Anchor Bar. Anyways, it's really cool to see that they do exist in the world of D&D.

And another more thing... isn't Belkar supposed to be wearing some sort of disguise?

Bravo to you, Giant, for another great strip... but in the same breath...

CURSE YOU GIANT, FOR LEAVING THE HALEY/ELAN STORYLINE HANGING!

*squeek* I'm not sure I can make it through the wait unttil Monday's strip... even then, there's no assurance that there will be any sort of closure.... I bet the Giant'll switch back to Roy and Celia.... *SOB*

[Jacklu]

This is now my favorite strip ever! Buffalow Wings!!!!

[Starla]

Yea for TGI Wednesday! I think that will become a meme here at Giantitp. ;D

TGIW for the new comic.

How come Belkar's hood is down? Probably because the saphire guards are the only ones who know about him and they are all working or dining at the better restaurants...

I actually didn't notice until the close up and for a second I thought "Whoa is Belkar sitting on a booster seat!?" but before I could laugh I realized it was his cloak he was sitting on so I just smiled at the thought and wished it was a booster seat, then I wondered why his hood was down.

[CarpeAmentum]

ninja watiers are so much better than pirate waiters.

hooks can't hold all those dishes.


Yes. Yes, Ninjas are better waiters/waitresses, but Pirates would clearly be the better bartenders. I mean, they could take the hook off and replace it with a soda dispenser or something like that. Also, who better to sell Captain Morgan?

[Gefangnis]

*pop!*

[Fillbert]

I notice that one of the extras "forgot" to remove their glasses before going "on stage" (first panel)

1) You assume that they are not supposed to have glasses, but the Harry Potter spoof had glasses.

2) "Nice Dodge".... "Ninja" Absofreakinglutly Hillarious

3) What would Belkar do to Harold not being allowed to due lethal damage?

[Fillbert]

Also, who better to sell Captain Morgan?

1) Ahoy there Capt'n Morgan!!

2) Pirates vs. Ninjas.... I think Pirates would be better due to better charisma (if they are the swashbuckling buccanneer types)

[Andiri]

I don't get it. How did Belkar spot the waitress? ???
http://www.giantitp.com/cgi-bin/GiantITP/ootscript?SK=3

[Flak_Razorwill]

The waitress wished to be seen, therefore, POP!

Anyone else thing the waitress's hair looked like 20-year-old Joanna Dark's? Except black, of course.

[Andiri]

The waitress wished to be seen, therefore, POP!

That explains how V and Durkon could see her. Belkar usually needs more help than that.

http://www.giantitp.com/cgi-bin/GiantITP/ootscript?SK=121 ;D

[SpoonlessJedi]

Belkar is such an ass. He's not being stupid here, he's just being Chaotic Evil.

Shhh! we don't know for sure that he's evil. He just has a lucky spell resistance to Unholy Blight. And carries a lead sheet to prove his manhood... You can't prove anything!

[coyote6]

Kick his half-butt, winged buffalo guy!
;D

[Foxer]

Nice strip!

Flying Buffalo rock.

[The Vorpal Tribble]

Celestial buffalos... gotta stat me up some of them..

[DragoonStar47]

Heh, great comic!

[BlythraB]

The Giant can make anything endangered/not that he wants.

Thank you! I've been wanting someone to point out that the Giant can make anything in his world work any way he wants to. Popcorn wars? remember? HIS WORLD. things don't always have to make sense. and thank you Mr. Burlew for making us laugh. another great comic.

[Fishies]

I laughed so hard.

[tothecornfield]

She was in the Ladies' Room for the first 9 panels. :P

Not to mention that seeing the wings before panel 10 would completely violate the laws of comedy.

[Dawnstrider_Moogle]

Maybe it's just the winged buffalos that are endangered. So endangered that no one knows there are such things.

Also: awesome

[Tyrasius]

Did anyone notice 'Ninja School' references a comment Roy made in a Dungeon Crawlin' Fools bonus strip?

;D
I own Dungeon Crawlin Fools (just got it yesterday YAY! but I already read it. Twice.) and have no idea what your talking about. I read reread the ninja bonus strips, and still have no clue what your refering to. A little help here please ???

Anyway GREAT comic, my favorite is the
"nice dodge"
"ninja"

but I was wondering how Celia managed to fet a table, and same goes for Haley, at nice places. Which by the way at least one of them said they got in a nice place. Durkon says "Tha reservations fer tha good places fill up back in summer."
hmmm maybe the high charisma people diplomacied there way into the good places, and thats what V was gonna say until the ninja waiter showed up.
Or maybe its so we can get some good jokes out of it and I am needlessly nitpicking.

Also, yay The Giants okay!

Boo 2 times a week

Also, yay The Giant wont get burnt out and the quality will remain at this high level and the Giant wont have a heart attack or some other stress incuced disease.
Basically, you are perfectly within your rights to drop to 2 or less comics a week if you want.

I dont remember why I chose to edit this, grrrr
oh YEAH! now I remember.

wow, the first time I post about a comic I make first page the second time ABOUT a comic, it is 8th

[TinSoldier]

If I get my comic before 9pm PDT, then I am very happy with having two updates a week. I am even happier when I get the comic before lunchtime.

So Yay two-times a week and comics posted earlier in the day! Hopefully The Giant will be more rested with his other work as well.

Any cons in the Portland, Oregon area??

[BigT]

Wow, I didn't realise that I was missing the last time we saw Belkar being such a pain, it is so much fun... And you do have to be careful what you say in public places, you never know who might be listening.

[mec]

This is the least azure locale that I've seen in Azure City yet!

[Varian7]

Yeah for Winged Buffalos and Ninja Waitresses! LOL!

[Vaarsuvius_Prime]

Winged-Buffalaur! ;D

[Bakta]

At least I learned something today, never heard of buffalo wings before. Still don't know what kind of dish it is.

Except for that, very forgettable comic

[radioKAOS]

-Ninja

Priceless.

[Silencer]

Wait-he's-standing-right-behind-me-while-I'm-making-humorous-remarks rule is valid even for winged buffalos! :D

[Serina_Spellbinder]

Shinobi trained waitresses. This explains a lot.

At which point, Jessica Simpson pokes her head in from off-panel, saying, "I know! Class action lawsuit?"

Sorry, just saw a bunch of "reimagined" jokes being used in this comic. TGIW is great, though!

I wondered if Belkar had been talking to Jessica Simpson, lol!!

[Fishies]

At least I learned something today, never heard of buffalo wings before. Still don't know what kind of dish it is.

Except for that, very forgettable comic


Buffalo wings are chicken wings. With spicy stuff.

[Serina_Spellbinder]

I wonder if the waitress is going to be a major character. I mean, it's not every day you see a ninja. (I assume)

And it's a little surprising that she'd be that up front about being a ninja. They're kinda supposed to keep their identity as ninjas secret. But now that I think about it, that was before the Ninja class was introduced in Complete Adventurer (c) :P

Maybe she got fired from Ninja Burger, lol!!!

[Quirinus_Obsidian]

Totally awesome. That reminds me of several visits to TGIF and Ruby Tuesday.

Also reminds me of http://www.giantitp.com/cgi-bin/GiantITP/ootscript?SK=42

[Serina_Spellbinder]

Very funny

"Relax Harold, we're supposed to be having a nice dinner together!"
;D

I wonder what Vaarsuvius was going to say about the other people with high charisma scores. ::)

Probably something about how the members of the party with higher Charisma are using it to get into the better restaurants.

[clight101]

Being that I'm from Buffalo NY this comic hit a chord with me. Funny thing is we don't call them Buffalo wings round here, there just chicken wings and if you call them Buffalo wings you get funny stares and made fun of.

Good comic though, got a giggle out of me

[TachoWarrior]

What can i say about charisma? It has gotten me places and that's why I love Elan...

[Fishies]

My Half-Orc Barbarian has 12 CHA.

[Duraska]

Man, Belkar's really reminding me a lot of Cartman these days. He's going beyond "evil" and treading into the "spoiled 12 year old" territory!

[Serina_Spellbinder]

Man, Belkar's really reminding me a lot of Cartman these days. He's going beyond "evil" and treading into the "spoiled 12 year old" territory!

I think he's frustrated because, as another posted pointed out, it's been a while since he got to kill something, and probably won't be able to in the near future.

More than ever, I can picture Belkar with a Cartman voice. ;D

[Felinoid]

Surprised I'm only the third person in nine pages to worry about Belkar. Put your hood back up before someone sees you! :-X

T.G.I. Wednesday is much more appropriate now that Rich isn't updating on Friday, but I have to admit that the first thing I thought when I saw that was, "T.G.I. Hump Day? WTF are they smoking?" ;D

Gotta love the ninja waitress. Foiling Belkar should be an Olympic sport. ;)

[poptartmini]

I had a friend once who was a waitress while going to college. At the job, they apparently told her to purposefully go to the tables when they notice food in peoples' mouths. Especially (and please don't hurt me ladies) when the womens' mouths were full of food. That way they would still get the good tip for being a mindful server, while still not having to do as much work.

[CockroachTeaParty]

Wow, and I thought I was the only person who hated... *ahem*... TGI "Wednesday's." What a horrible, horrible restaurant.

[Flak_Razorwill]

Wow, and I thought I was the only person who hated... *ahem*... TGI "Wednesday's." What a horrible, horrible restaurant.

I liked their onion soup. The service was slow, but it was a busy night.

I'm partial to anything "Tchotchke's" was based on.

[Devils_Advocate]

So now, I know ninjas are so stealthy, I must be part ninja myself because I always see my waiter/waitress :)
No, being stealthy oneself does't automatically grant one the ability to counteract the stealth of others. You're not a ninja, you're an Elvish ranger (http://elfonlyinn.comicgenesis.com/d/20030509.html).


I own Dungeon Crawlin Fools (just got it yesterday YAY! but I already read it. Twice.) and have no idea what your talking about. I read reread the ninja bonus strips, and still have no clue what your refering to. A little help here please ???
Read the first panel in the bottom row of page 23a just one more time. If you still don't see it, then... man, I can't help ya.

I didn't even think of that until Hoseki pointed it out. This might not even be a deliberate reference to that, but even if not: Heh! Funny.


I have to admit that the first thing I thought when I saw that was, "T.G.I. Hump Day? WTF are they smoking?" ;D
Well, you have to remember that they use a different calendar (http://www.giantitp.com/cgi-bin/GiantITP/ootscript?SK=302), silly!


I had a friend once who was a waitress while going to college. At the job, they apparently told her to purposefully go to the tables when they notice food in peoples' mouths. Especially (and please don't hurt me ladies) when the womens' mouths were full of food. That way they would still get the good tip for being a mindful server, while still not having to do as much work.
It's a conspiracy! :o An evil conspiracy to avoid giving us proper service and trick us out of our money! That's why DeathQuaker doesn't have her water!

Niiiinnnnjjjjaaaa!!*

(Waits for RawBear to collapse in laughter.)

*A la Kirk yelling "Kaaaahn!"

[Haggis_McCrablice]

Belkar may have slipped up by using the word "human" when fussing at the waitress. That's liable to come back to haunt him. Stealth and subtlety is not his strong point, is it....?

Is Belkar's stilt still broken, or was it repaired or replaced when he rejoined the other party members?

So if buffalo wings come from Buffalo...what part of a chicken is the finger? Why are they called French fries if they were invented in Belgium? And German chocolate has nothing to do with Germany! Food is quite confusing!

Glasses were first invented in the late 14th century, so they're not quite as anachronistic as one might think. Of course, in the medieval area only the very wealthy could afford them, so I'm presuming this extra with specs is one of the upper crust of Azure City.

At least Belkar didn't ask if he was eating chicken or fish. "My spot check doesn't work through breading!"

[grimdirge]

Ninja!

nice.

[Nazzo, the 102nd]

This is the least azure locale that I've seen in Azure City yet!

That's because TGIW is a worldwide company, they come from another country. :P



I also like to point out that, as V explaned, they were naturally direct behind Belkar. The thing is, is he actually expressing a negative opinion about the buffalos? ;)

Anyway, Belkar rocks. 'nuff said. :)

[The Glitter Ninja]

You know what's sad? I knew Wednesday back in the day, from Usenet, and until someone on LiveJournal explained today's strip to me I didn't realize she was the same Wednesday as the websnark chick. And now here she is, a cameo in my favorite webcomic.

The internetz are too small.

The waitress in this one was great. "Ninja". Indeed.

[CelestialStick]

Boy, that Belkar--you just can't take him anywhere! ;D

I'm anxious to get back to both the Roy and Haley subplots. Monday seems a long way off . . .

[team56th]

Cool - Much better than recent romance strips, and, actually, as cool as one of the best OOTS strips ever. Great.

[A_Gray_Phantom]

I wanna play a ninja waitress now! That is the coolest! At first I was thinking the restaurant staff were illusions, so that the real staff could enjoy the festivities as well, but if ya' gotta pay the tuition...

Also, I think I noticed a typo, or my eyes are just really tired. Belkar says, "It's not may fault..." I believe that it should be "my."

I have a bad habit of noticing things like that in other peoples writings, but never in my own :P.

Very funny, I find that OOTS always brightens my day :).


Ooh, one more thing! Is anyone else curious about what Miko is up to? I'm dying to see how her "spiritual journey" and meditations are going ;D.

[JessmanCA]

so great

[Dave_L]

I've been in restaurants when people have been complaining like that.

Afterwards, I always tell my kids, "That's how NOT to behave". :)

"Ninja" - inspired!

[Delgarde]

Really weird coincidence... only a few days ago, my sister and I were discussing the idea of ninjas in this kind of setting - drinks being delivered to the table without anyone noticing them arrive. Uncanny...

[Eldhrin]

Rich! No! My sides...

* scrambles around picking internal organs off the floor *

[Overelemental]

I like the ninja waitress :)

[SabreGuy]

Apropos of nothing, but while it makes for a pretty good gag, having grown up and lived in Buffalo (home of the chicken wing) my whole life, I absolutely BRISTLE at people referring to them as "Buffalo wings." I know, I know... nobody who doesn't come from Buffalo will care, but for us, it's like sacrilege. They're "chicken wings," people, not "buffalo wings." Fix your menus!

And when Belkar called them "tiny chicken legs in hot sauce"... well, let me just say my abiding love for Belkar was somewhat diminished.

Sorry, sorry. I just couldn't let it go. The Buffalonian in me wouldn't let it rest.

[Peptuck]

Hm.

Has anyone noticed that this is the only place we've seen in Azure City that doesn't have everything blue or white? (well, aside from Shojo's gardens, but those are plants :P)

That being said, the appearance of the buffalos (winged ones, at that!) caught me so off guard XD

But alas for the poor waitress. Seeing how I work in a restaurant alongside a whole lot of servers, I feel a lot of sympathy for her, having to deal with a **** like Belkar....

[Kord]

Ha, I knew the end panel was coming. This was one of the best comics in a while.

[Rethorn]

I laughed my ass off. The comic was good, but what made it better was back on the N3 forums, waay, way, waaaaay long ago there was a Pirate vs. Ninja art contest and Ramen-Ramen Mou drew a picture of a ninja challenging a pirate to a duel, the pirate shooting the ninja, the ninja calling him a cheater and the pirate responding "Pirate."

Good times

[artfuldodger]

for those of you who dont know (or are really dumb) they proper term is chicken wings. they originated in buffalo ny at the ancor bar. hence the name buffalo wings. but it was a good use of the "out of state" term.

[bluish_wolf]

for those of you who dont know (or are really dumb) they proper term is chicken wings. they originated in buffalo ny at the ancor bar. hence the name buffalo wings. but it was a good use of the "out of state" term.

The proper term is, actually, Buffalo-style chicken wings. "Buffalo wings" is just short for that. The reason why they refer to Buffalo wings as that is because they are cooked in a special type of sauce that originated from that city. It's composed of cayenne pepper sauce, white vinegar, garlic, butter, and salt.

Naturally, if you are actually in Buffalo, you might as well assume they are going to cook chicken wings that way.

[TinSoldier]

I just call 'em "Hot Wings". And I make them with Frank's RedHot hot sauce.

[Sebastian]

Belkar should be more careful, if that plate had hit the waitress, that would be enough to activate the mark of justice.

[TinSoldier]

Belkar should be more careful, if that plate had hit the waitress, that would be enough to activate the mark of justice.Would that have been lethal or non-lethal damage?

It's only activated if he causes lethal damage to any living creature (http://www.giantitp.com/cgi-bin/GiantITP/ootscript?SK=295) within the bounds of a city, town, or village.

[WNxArrakis]

just noticed the "nice dodge" "ninja" thing.. very nice.

Arrakis

[Truthseeker]

Apropos of nothing, but while it makes for a pretty good gag, having grown up and lived in Buffalo (home of the chicken wing) my whole life, I absolutely BRISTLE at people referring to them as "Buffalo wings." I know, I know... nobody who doesn't come from Buffalo will care, but for us, it's like sacrilege. They're "chicken wings," people, not "buffalo wings." Fix your menus!


Except... y'know, outside of Buffalo, where there are actually other ways in which chicken wings might be prepared and presented. I understand they actually do not come off the bird that way. ;)

Buf-fa-lo wings. Anyone who says differently is just monumentally outvoted. :D

Belkar's Mark of Justice sort of reminds me of Spike's chip (Buffy). Seems similarly selective in its reasoning. Belkar must've known he couldn't touch the ninja-waitress, so no... okay, okay, sorry.

[Evik]

Ha i always knew Belkar would be a restuarants worst nightmare...hope they eave a good tip!....i know i would want any of Belkar's meal after it comes back from the kitchen LOL

and great last panel ;D

[Tyrasius]

Read the first panel in the bottom row of page 23a just one more time. If you still don't see it, then... man, I can't help ya.

I didn't even think of that until Hoseki pointed it out. This might not even be a deliberate reference to that, but even if not: Heh! Funny.

Ohhhh now I get it. I was more focused on the Shroudingers ninja one, and didn't notice Roy's ninja school comment. Welll that got a chuckle out of me.

[Kobalt_Thunderfoot]

Oh man. So late on the new comic. This one was classic.

"Nice Dodge!"
"Ninja school"

[ElfLad]

Is the "Ninja" line a reference to Adventurers! (http://www.adventurers-comic.com/d/20040527.html) or they both references to something else or is it just a coincidence?

[BlythraB]

http://www.giantitp.com/cgi-bin/GiantITP/ootscript?SK=246
I think the "Laws of Comedic Physics" got Belkar
(the buffalo, not the ninja)

[Ted_Stryker]

Also reminds me of http://www.giantitp.com/cgi-bin/GiantITP/ootscript?SK=42
Also note that the waitress's apron has a ninja sash holding it up, instead of the skinny strings that the waiter next to her had.

[JazzManJim]

Just wondering here, but isn't Belkar supposed to stay cloaked while he's in the city?

I figure he can't stay stilted while he's in the restaurant, but maybe V and Durkon could have slipped in a couple books under his seat so he wouldn't look like the halfling that murdered a guard and is supposed to be in jail and all.

[themunck]

Miko walkes in on Belkar, new that he dosen't have his disquise on

EDIT: HOW CAN I MISSPEL "SPOILER"?!?

[TinSoldier]

EDIT: HOW CAN I MISSPEL "SPOILER"?!?The same way you can misspell misspell.

[Valdis22]

HaHaHaHa.......Ninja Waitress

Great strip Giant as always

[spectralphoenix]

It's probably just as well they didn't get into a really nice restaraunt...

[Dawnstrider_Moogle]

Is the "Ninja" line a reference to Adventurers! (http://www.adventurers-comic.com/d/20040527.html) or they both references to something else or is it just a coincidence?

I think it's just a coincidence, but you win for reading Adventurers!

"I was in a ninja marching band...we'd sneak onto rooftops and perform in the dead of night. By the time anyone realized there'd been a parade, we were already gone..."

[BlythraB]

*A la Kirk yelling "Kaaaahn!"
hooray! another admitted trekie!

[Bilbo27]

TGI Wed, with an almost exact color scheme, nice.
Ninja waiter was a nice touch, and nice dodge--hee hee
bummed about the 2 strips though.

[BlythraB]

The same way you can misspell misspell.
and walks and diguise, but it's okay. I've known people who make much graver misspellings

[RBloom0566]

Same way you misspelled 'walks,' ' now,' and 'misspell.'


Miko walkes in on Belkar, new that he dosen't have his disquise on

EDIT: HOW CAN I MISSPEL "SPOILER"?!?

[luilupino]

I can't tell what are the others eating...
I think its just a salad for V
but durkon ???

[CelestialStick]

hooray! another admitted trekie!


I've been an avid fan of Star Trek since the very first season back in 1966! :)

[Serraco]

I can't tell what are the others eating...
I think its just a salad for V
but durkon ???

My best guess is that it's some sort of marinaded chicken / chicken in some sort of sauce over rice. It seems a bit too light to be beef to me, but that's just my two copper pieces.

With V... ... it does seem to be a salad of sorts.

[Renrik]

looks like mashed potatos, pork, and lettuce

[Illsbane]

Heh. ^^ The winged buffalos remind me of those prehistoric, rhonoceros-like creatures from the movie Ice Age.

[Krytha]

I wonder if the buffalos will order Halfling Drop Soup after this...

[Taren]

What? NO! Giant, you FOOL! Doesn't anyone else see it?

That girl Belkar threw his chicken thighs at...

She's a Ninja Schoolgirl Waitress! She'll doom us all!

Our only hope is to each buy all 27 of the DVDs of her Japanese television show before she destroys us with her buffelo-flavored shuriken.... I pray I have the cash for salvation.

[bluish_wolf]

What? NO! Giant, you FOOL! Doesn't anyone else see it?

That girl Belkar threw his chicken thighs at...

She's a Ninja Schoolgirl Waitress! She'll doom us all!

Our only hope is to each buy all 27 of the DVDs of her Japanese television show before she destroys us with her buffelo-flavored shuriken.... I pray I have the cash for salvation.

I usually consider myself well-versed in animé series, but I have no clue what you are talking about. Seriously. [Edit] Err... I just assumed it was animated. Might not be. I forgot they actually have live-action stuff over there, too. Either way, I don't know what you are talking about.

[Taren]

It wasn't so much a joke about a REAL anime as it was a job about the occasionally inane situations of magical girl animes in particular... I don't think there is an anime about a ninja schoolgirl waitress. Although I think I'd find it really amusing if there was.

Heh...maybe Giant could make a side story about her in one of his next collections of OOTS! ;)

[CelestialStick]

I can't tell what are the others eating...
I think its just a salad for V
but durkon ???

V's does look like a leafy green salad. Durkon's looks like pork over rice with a little side of green lettuce. Darn, now I'm hungry!

[Borbarad]

Is the "Ninja" line a reference to Adventurers! (http://www.adventurers-comic.com/d/20040527.html) or they both references to something else or is it just a coincidence?


I personally think they both reference to the simple fact Ninjas are absolutetly great. I think this link (http://www.realultimatepower.net/index4.htm) could help to understand. By the way, that is not my opinion, it is just somewhat a legend Ninjas are the greatest livings (and Chuck Norris).

[Dawnstrider_Moogle]

Heh...maybe Giant could make a side story about her in one of his next collections of OOTS! ;)

-Yes-

[Veg Sorbet]

I personally think they both reference to the simple fact Ninjas are absolutetly great. I think this link (http://www.realultimatepower.net/index4.htm) could help to understand. By the way, that is not my opinion, it is just somewhat a legend Ninjas are the greatest livings (and Chuck Norris).

First thing I thought of was this (http://www.giantitp.com/camp0001.html) from Rich's "campaigns" page.

Loved the buffalo.

[terrainmonkey]

Katsumi--Ninja Schoolgirl Waitress!

by day, a mild mannered TGIW waitress, using the money to put herself through school, but by night, she's a deadly assassin with a heart of steel. And this week is finals...

[Taren]

Katsumi--Ninja Schoolgirl Waitress!

by day, a mild mannered TGIW waitress, using the money to put herself through school, but by night, she's a deadly assassin with a heart of steel. And this week is finals...

Terrainmonkey? Though I am not familiar with you in any way, I officially proclaim this to be the greatest thing you have ever said. Ever.

Anyway, when Belkar wakes up with his head impaled on a buffelo-flavored Kunai, he'll think twice about mocking a ninja...

[ZacK88]

LOL!!

I'm still wondering what V wanted to say, before so rudly interupted..

[Nazzo, the 102nd]

First thing I thought of was this (http://www.giantitp.com/camp0001.html) from Rich's "campaigns" page.

Oh my. This is perfect. Never look at the Campaigns page before. Think I should check it more often, as I am a double DM (that is, DMing two campaigns simultaneously).

[CelestialStick]

When I first saw the two buffaloes I assumed they were husband and wife. I just noticed, however, that they both have horns. I don't think that female buffalo have horns. What did other people think--husband and wife? Two friends? What?

[Holy_Knight]

When I first saw the two buffaloes I assumed they were husband and wife. I just noticed, however, that they both have horns. I don't think that female buffalo have horns. What did other people think--husband and wife? Two friends? What?
Don't they? Female cows have horns, so I would think buffaloes would too, although I'm not positive. And I also thought it was a husband and wife.

[Gary_Howard]

They're.. like dwarves. Some DMs rule that the females have beards, some rule that they don't. So I guess only the DM knows what that buffalo is.

Also, how on earth do THOSE wings support that weight?

[CelestialStick]

Don't they? Female cows have horns, so I would think buffaloes would too, although I'm not positive. And I also thought it was a husband and wife.


Are you sure about female cattle having horns? I didn't think so, but you may be right.

[CelestialStick]

They're.. like dwarves. Some DMs rule that the females have beards, some rule that they don't. So I guess only the DM knows what that buffalo is.

I don't know where that goofy "female dwarves have beards" nonsense started.


Also, how on earth do THOSE wings support that weight?

It's magic! ;D

[LostInBrittany]

Are you sure about female cattle having horns? I didn't think so, but you may be right.

Female cows have horns... at least European ones :D

[TinSoldier]

Some breeds of cattle have horns, some don't. Some are limited to just the males or females.

A quick search reveals that in Bison, both sexes have horns.

TinSoldier -- All hat, no cattle.

[Holy_Knight]

Some breeds of cattle have horns, some don't. Some are limited to just the males or females.

A quick search reveals that in Bison, both sexes have horns.

TinSoldier -- All hat, no cattle.
Huh...

Well, Gladys the Cow (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.jedidjah.dds.nl/Alphabet/SesameG/GladysTheCow.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.sesame-encyclopedia.com/Alphabet/SesameG/GladysTheCow.html&h=218&w=353&sz=50&tbnid=i9vxcGTl yPfVuM:&tbnh=71&tbnw=116&hl=en&start=4&prev=/images%3Fq%3DGladys%2Bthe%2Bcow%26svnum%3D10%26hl% 3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DG) has horns, and that's all that matters. :D

[CelestialStick]

Huh...

Well, Gladys the Cow (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.jedidjah.dds.nl/Alphabet/SesameG/GladysTheCow.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.sesame-encyclopedia.com/Alphabet/SesameG/GladysTheCow.html&h=218&w=353&sz=50&tbnid=i9vxcGTl yPfVuM:&tbnh=71&tbnw=116&hl=en&start=4&prev=/images%3Fq%3DGladys%2Bthe%2Bcow%26svnum%3D10%26hl% 3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DG) has horns, and that's all that matters. :D

Ah, well that explains why I don't know. I grew up in Chicago, and there weren't many cows around, and by the time Seasame Street came along to educate city kids about cows, I'd already gotten too old for the show. ;D