Is there any way to get eithe temp hp or real HP on hit? (PATHFINDER)

[Vyanie]

A few friends and I are running a pathfinder campaign starting at level 3, the plan is to go up to 13. The campaign is centered around more of a tribal feel, we are all attempting to play orcs / half orcs, and are trying to stay more towards that theme. Currently we have a totemic skald and a scarred witch doctor or shaman and at least one of the other players wants to play an unchained barbarian type but they are really looking for a way to either get (preferred) temp hp on hit or if nothing else then real hp on hit, I used to remember a trait that gave 1 temp hp per monster killed and with a couple of feats that would have been perfect but for the life of me i can no longer find it. Does anyone know of anyway to get something like this? He is trying to stay away from the swift actions for a heal type stuff and would really prefer to heal as he damages things (think of a berserker drawing the life out of his enemies or becoming tougher as he rips them apart)

[Lotheb]

Theres the vampiric and greater vampiric weapon enchantments, but those give real hp and are sharply limited per day (if you get a +1 vampiric weapon at level 7 it can only heal you 14 hp/day).
What sources are allowed/are you open to third party materials?

[Mongoose19]

The feat might be born alone

Benefit: Whenever you kill or knock unconscious an opponent with a melee attack, you gain temporary hit points equal to your Constitution bonus (minimum 1) until your next turn. These temporary hit points do not stack. You do not gain this bonus if the opponent is helpless or has less than half your Hit Dice.

[Jack_Simth]

Let's see...
The Fear Sub Domain Power (https://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/cleric/domains/paizo-domains/evil-domain/fear/) is one/day and has sharp limits.
The 13th level ability of the Hungry Ghost Monk (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/Monk/archetypes/paizo-monk-archetypes/hungry-ghost-monk/) gives you one temp HP on each hit and Wis mod temp HP on each critical hit.
The Fearmonger (https://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/alternate-classes/antipaladin/archetypes/paizo-antipaladin-archetypes/fearmonger-antipaladin-archetype/) antipaladin archetype possibly works (if the target fails a save vs. fear), but is based on abilities the antipaladin has in limited quantity.
The Daemon Totem Greater (https://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/barbarian/rage-powers/paizo-rage-powers/daemon-totem-greater-su) Rage Power only works while raging.
The Raging Cannibal (https://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/barbarian/archetypes/paizo-barbarian-archetypes/raging-cannibal-barbarian-archetype/) Barbarian Archetype does so for certain critical hits while raging.
The Swallowing Glyph tattoo of the Tattooed Mystic (https://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/prestige-classes/other-paizo/s-z/tattooed-mystic/) PrC options does so when you kill someone with a Necromancy spell.
The Third-party Hellion (https://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/3rd-party-classes/rogue-genius-games/hellion/) class has the Bloodshed Patron's Blood Shield hex as an option... but it's a very small number of temp HP.
... there's probably more.

[Andor13]

If you're open to Path of War there is the Martial Power (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/path-of-war/feats/martial-power-combat/) feat, which is a modified import of the 3.5 Stone Power Feat.

[Vyanie]

At the moment we are using just paizo products, while we both love the greater daemon totem it comes on way to late for most of the adventure and honestly by then does way to little but this is similar to what we are looking for. Can anyone else think of another way? Temp hp preferred .

[exelsisxax]

At the moment we are using just paizo products, while we both love the greater daemon totem it comes on way to late for most of the adventure and honestly by then does way to little but this is similar to what we are looking for. Can anyone else think of another way? Temp hp preferred .

What you are looking for doesn't exist. You've rejected all the strongest sources of this type of effect, all of which are strictly gated, limited, or hard to trigger in some way. the daemon totem, hungry ghost monk, and vampiric weapons are the best available. Take them or leave them.

[Vyanie]

No problem, didn't mean to ruffle your feathers. I had for some reason thought I remembered something I guess didn't exist. While this does prove yet again paizo doesn't give martials anything nice at least some people were nice enough to help verify it is not around. Thank you for helping out.

[Vyanie]

Ahh found the trait I was looking for but it looks like it got nerfed into uselessness. Only once a day now Soul-drinker

[Talverin]

Main reason there are so few and they are so limited is because of cheesing. An ubercharger is already heinous; getting absurd HP back from every hit would make it even more so.

Part of the reason is, yes. The Guy at the Gym fallacy. Most guys at most gyms don't steal lifeforce by hitting people.

Want nice things for Martials?

http://spheresofpower.wikidot.com/

Spheres of Power/Spheres of Might is the single best conversion system I have ever seen, and it fixes a lot of what martials don't get. You can also do a 'partial conversion', where you only allow SoM stuff and no SoP.

I recommend looking at the Sentinel class and Guardian Sphere, for specifics.


Have to stay first party, though?
Take a look at the Ultimate Combat Wounds & Vigor system.

http://legacy.aonprd.com/ultimateCombat/variants/woundsAndVigor.html

(Link to the Legacy page, because I dislike the AoN organization.)

Haven't used it yet, but I've done a lot of research into it, and it seems... Sustainable. Especially in absence of a dedicated healer.

[Vyanie]

Thank you talvern, someone also just messaged me the perfect one. Orc feat, Born Alone. Exactly what we were looking for thank you everyone!

[Boggartbae]

There's also the Fire God's Blessing feat, which works well with the Fast Healer feat. It's real HP tho.

Edit: there's also the Sword of Life Stealing (https://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/magic-weapons/specific-magic-weapons/sword-of-life-stealing/), which give temp hp on a crit, and the Cruel (https://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/magic-weapons/magic-weapon-special-abilities/cruel/) enchantment, which gives temp hp on a K.O.

[Vyanie]

Ohh wow cruel enchantment! Thank you everyone!!

[Jack_Simth]

There's also the Fire God's Blessing feat, which works well with the Fast Healer feat. It's real HP tho.

Edit: there's also the Sword of Life Stealing (https://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/magic-weapons/specific-magic-weapons/sword-of-life-stealing/), which give temp hp on a crit, and the Cruel (https://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/magic-weapons/magic-weapon-special-abilities/cruel/) enchantment, which gives temp hp on a K.O.

Goes well with Lifesurge (https://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/magic-weapons/magic-weapon-special-abilities/lifesurge/), I imagine. Plus any source of bonus damage, of course.

[Boggartbae]

Goes well with Lifesurge (https://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/magic-weapons/magic-weapon-special-abilities/lifesurge/), I imagine. Plus any source of bonus damage, of course.

Ooh great find. And since they have a skald in the party, you could also throw in the Bloodsong (https://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/magic-weapons/magic-weapon-special-abilities/bloodsong/) enchantment, for 1d10 temp HP on a critical hit while the raging song is active.

A +1 cruel lifesurge bloodsong falchion would be the equivalent of a +5 weapon, so it would cost 50,375 GP. While your ally is using Raging Song, it would threaten a critical on a 15-20, grant 1d10+1 temp hp on a critical hit, and 6 temp hp on a K.O; even more if you get someone to cast greater magic weapon every day.