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calebcom
2007-09-16, 09:07 PM
I saw a paladin rebuild on these forums one day and I cannot find them now, does anyone know where it is? it had smites/encounter and lay on hands to remove disease poison and whatnot... Anyone know?

OneWinged4ngel
2007-09-16, 09:07 PM
I saw a paladin rebuild on these forums one day and I cannot find them now, does anyone know where it is? it had smites/encounter and lay on hands to remove disease poison and whatnot... Anyone know?

It was never on these forums. I wrote it on the WotC forums.

If it was posted on this board, it was plagiarism.

The link to the third thread about it is here: http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=761045

calebcom
2007-09-16, 09:10 PM
Thank you very much. I think it was just linked. I love this rebalancing and I appreciate your quick response!!!

Much Love and Hugs.

Caewil
2007-09-17, 06:17 AM
Well, Fax Celestis made a couple of paladin rebuilds involving Mantles.

OneWinged4ngel
2007-09-17, 01:46 PM
Well, Fax Celestis made a couple of paladin rebuilds involving Mantles.

If you're looking for builds besides mine, there are links to a few on The Gaming Den in the thread for my paladin.

Fenix_of_Doom
2007-09-17, 02:15 PM
a quick search lead me to three (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46189) whole (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33551) links (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=42474).

OneWinged4ngel
2007-09-17, 03:02 PM
a quick search lead me to three (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46189)
Oi... I just plain don't like this one. It even has mechanics you can't use (from a quick skim, he says things like "You can make a grapple to shove people out of the way" without giving any idea how that mechanic actually works. And or course, ignoring the existing overrun mechanic.)


whole (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33551) Well, at least this one has an interesting mantle concept. Doesn't seem to have much going for it besides the novelty from a quick perusal.


links (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=42474).

I've got a laundry list of issues with this one... ranging from what "in a combat situation" means, to the weirdness of healing smite, to, well, exasperating issues the paladin has and not improving the areas his design suffers (things like making him nova *even harder* against undead with Holy Murder and Save or Die Hands while comparatively sucking against other stuff. The first link suffers from this too, when he doubles up his Lay on Hands to instakill the undeads.)

But yeah, if you just want to do a random search, you can come up with a hundred hashed-together "fixes" for any class. The trick is picking out the useful ones.