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Palanan
2018-10-03, 12:04 PM
Does Pathfinder have anything approximating Nymph’s Kiss?

I’m aware this feat is part of a broader package that not everyone favors, but I’d rather not argue about that here. I’m just wondering if there’s anything in Pathfinder that provides a similar set of benefits, either with or without the fey connection.

Psyren
2018-10-03, 12:10 PM
Could you post what that does for those of us who are AFB?

torrasque666
2018-10-03, 12:17 PM
Which part of Nymph's Kiss are you referring to? The +2 on Charisma-based checks? The +1 on saving throws against spells and spell-likes? The Extra Skill point?


Fey creatures regard you as though you were fey. You gain a +2 circumstance bonus on all Charisma-related checks, and a +1 bonus on all saving throws against spells and spell-like abilities. Starting with the level when you take this feat, you gain 1 extra skill point per level.

Yanisa
2018-10-03, 12:18 PM
For skill points there is Cunning (http://www.aonprd.com/FeatDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Cunning).

I can't find a general +1 vs saving throws feat, or a +2 on charisma check feat in Pathfinder. Let alone a feat with any two of these abilities or similar aspects.

Palanan
2018-10-03, 01:21 PM
Originally Posted by Psyren
Could you post what that does for those of us who are AFB?

Sorry, should’ve summarized that. This feat is most commonly used for the extra skill point per level, but it also gives a +2 bonus on Charisma checks and a +1 bonus on saves vs. spells and SLAs.

The story requirement is that the character maintain “an intimate relationship with a good-aligned fey,” so this is basically “Fey With Benefits.” I’m just interested if there’s anything in Pathfinder which would work as an equivalent, fey or no fey.

Yanisa
2018-10-03, 01:49 PM
Sorry, should’ve summarized that. This feat is most commonly used for the extra skill point per level, but it also gives a +2 bonus on Charisma checks and a +1 bonus on saves vs. spells and SLAs.

The story requirement is that the character maintain “an intimate relationship with a good-aligned fey,” so this is basically “Fey With Benefits.” I’m just interested if there’s anything in Pathfinder which would work as an equivalent, fey or no fey.

Well Pathfinder doesn't like the word "intimate", but there a couple of story feats with "friendly contact". :smalltongue:

Namely Blessed (http://www.aonprd.com/FeatDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Blessed) and Damned (http://www.aonprd.com/FeatDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Damned) for good and evil outsiders. Is that more what you are looking for?

Palanan
2018-10-03, 02:15 PM
Originally Posted by Yanisa
Well Pathfinder doesn't like the word "intimate”….

Hm. Why not?


Originally Posted by Yanisa
Blessed

That’s close, although I’d still like those extra skill points if possible.

And it seems the actual benefits from Blessed are fairly strict; the bonuses conferred by Nymph’s Kiss are much broader.

Florian
2018-10-03, 02:43 PM
I don´t think you'll find something as crazy as this feat in PF, at least not in a single package. 2 traits and 1 feat can replicate it.

Palanan
2018-10-03, 03:20 PM
Originally Posted by Florian
2 traits and 1 feat can replicate it.

Okay. And they are?

Yanisa
2018-10-03, 03:36 PM
Hm. Why not?
I searched for the actual word intimate and only found 1 feat with that word in it. :smalltongue: Even relationship had more hits (7) and most of those are story feats.


Okay. And they are?

I would guess:

Cunning (https://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/cunning/) - Feat to gain Skill Points
Glory of Old (https://www.d20pfsrd.com/traits/regional-traits/glory-of-old-dwarf-regional-trait/) - Trait for +1 saving throw vs spells (And poisons, and you need be a dwarf, related to dwarfs (https://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/racial-feats/racial-heritage/) or adopted (https://www.d20pfsrd.com/traits/social-traits/adopted/).)
Good Folk (http://www.aonprd.com/TraitDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Good%20Folk) - Trait for +2 charisma checks. (Although poorly because it only works people that are friendly or helpful already...)


Also remember: Additional Traits (https://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/additional-traits/) - Feat to gain traits

Edit: Free homebrew advice: You could "combine" the abilities of the Additional trait feat + Adopted trait + glory of old + good folk to make some sort of Dwarf's Kiss feat. Without making it more powerful then what pathfinder already offers. No skill points though...

Vertharrad
2018-10-05, 11:49 PM
Open Minded (https://www.d20pfsrd.com/psionics-unleashed/feats/open-minded/) could also work for the skill points.