JackMage666
2007-09-17, 08:50 AM
I've seen alot of threads trying to up base classes, so that they're on par with Wizards and Clerics and such. Problem with that is, they just try to break the Fighter and such, and call it fair, because "they're still not as powerful as Wizards!"
Enough of this. We know the wizards and clerics are broken. The answer should not be to "fix" every other class, but to reduce the extreme power of a full spellcaster. My suggestion -
Give the full spellcasters the same casting as Bards. Not the same spells, but only up to 6th level apells. I realize that this eliminates ALOT of spells, icludig alot of iconic ones, but that can be fixed as well. WIth 6th level spells being the most powerful, we can reduce some of the iconic spells in level. Not all of them, just things like Control Undead, which make sense for a caster to be able to do.
The main problem comes from the Duskblade now, who would have to have his max spell level reduced to 4 or so, due to his being an (almost) full caster under this system.
Don't touch the 4th level spellers, such as Paladin or Ranger. Their spells remain unchanged. Now they're actually built in gishes and such, rather than just having spellcasting on the side (and often removing it for some variant, because they don't like bookeeping).
This also rises the Bard up to Full Caster status, and, though still not as powerful as say wizards, is now a rather potent party member.
So, comments? In this, Wizards are still more powerful than most other classes, yes, but it's no tnearly as blaringly so. Now it's a much more subtle superiority. I'm sure this has been suggested before, but I'd like to see what people think about it.
Enough of this. We know the wizards and clerics are broken. The answer should not be to "fix" every other class, but to reduce the extreme power of a full spellcaster. My suggestion -
Give the full spellcasters the same casting as Bards. Not the same spells, but only up to 6th level apells. I realize that this eliminates ALOT of spells, icludig alot of iconic ones, but that can be fixed as well. WIth 6th level spells being the most powerful, we can reduce some of the iconic spells in level. Not all of them, just things like Control Undead, which make sense for a caster to be able to do.
The main problem comes from the Duskblade now, who would have to have his max spell level reduced to 4 or so, due to his being an (almost) full caster under this system.
Don't touch the 4th level spellers, such as Paladin or Ranger. Their spells remain unchanged. Now they're actually built in gishes and such, rather than just having spellcasting on the side (and often removing it for some variant, because they don't like bookeeping).
This also rises the Bard up to Full Caster status, and, though still not as powerful as say wizards, is now a rather potent party member.
So, comments? In this, Wizards are still more powerful than most other classes, yes, but it's no tnearly as blaringly so. Now it's a much more subtle superiority. I'm sure this has been suggested before, but I'd like to see what people think about it.