What about the Elven Gods?

[TheSaracen]

It's been said at several times in the comic that the Elves raised up their own gods, or, in other words, that the Elven gods were not present at the creation of this world. This raises the question: what happens if this world ends? Would they survive, since they're gods? How common is it for new gods to be created? One would think that if the elves raised multiple gods in this world's tenure, and this happened in a reasonable portion of worlds, then their should be thousands of gods, since the gods have built possibly millions of worlds.

If the Elven Gods would not survive the destruction of this world, being newly raised deities, would the Dark One?

[D.One]

It's been said at several times in the comic that the Elves raised up their own gods, or, in other words, that the Elven gods were not present at the creation of this world. This raises the question: what happens if this world ends? Would they survive, since they're gods? How common is it for new gods to be created? One would think that if the elves raised multiple gods in this world's tenure, and this happened in a reasonable portion of worlds, then their should be thousands of gods, since the gods have built possibly millions of worlds.

If the Elven Gods would not survive the destruction of this world, being newly raised deities, would the Dark One?

Those are good questions. I kinda expected that, when Thor explained why TDO was different, he would address the situation of the elves and clarify if they are from this world or from some previous world, but it didn't happen.

The difference was explained as being or not being sponsored by an existing pantheon and, even if that still leaves the "how he did it without being sponsored?" kinda open, this answer is not really needed for the story to flow because the technicallities of the proccess would matter mostly if they were intending to replicate it, creating another independent but more friendly god, something this world doesn't seem to have spare time to do right now.

That said, maybe we'll see some explanation in the future (maybe on Book comments), but I don't really feel the storyline needs such explanations now, and maybe they won't come. :smallfrown:

[Gluteus_Maximus]

The Eastern gods served as a sort of distraction while the rest of the gods built a new world around it. Perhaps, for the time when they make a new world, any gods sponsored to godhood in that world's tenure sacrifice themselves. TDO is different, because though he rose to godhood in the world's tenure he wasn't sponsored and doesn't know the whole story yet; he doesn't yet know that the gods would just throw away one world for a new one, and he wouldn't just sacrifice himself for gods who, when he was mortal, his enemies followed.

For example, Dvalin first king of the dwarves, Veldrina's really minor elven goddess, and all the others would throw themselves at the Snarl to give the gods enough time to co-operate and complete the new barrier.

[Fyraltari]

We aleady had this thread (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?568587-So-how-long-have-the-Elven-Gods-etc-been-around/page10), it's not even past the necromancy threshold yet.

The short of it is "we don't know".
Grey Wolf Mortal Gods' Hypothesis postulates that ascended mortals cannot survive past the world which saw them ascend and has gained traction. The main point against it is that the apprently much sweeter deal that the Elves got next to the rest of the Western Continent could be a result of them having Ascended Elves backing them during the creation of the world.

[Grey_Wolf_c]

We aleady had this thread (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?568587-So-how-long-have-the-Elven-Gods-etc-been-around/page10), it's not even past the necromancy threshold yet.

The short of it is "we don't know".
Grey Wolf Mortal Gods' Hypothesis postulates that ascended mortals cannot survive past the world which saw them ascend and has gained traction. The main point against it is that the apprently much sweeter deal that the Elves got next to the rest of the Western Continent could be a result of them having Ascended Elves backing them during the creation of the world.

The counter to that is that the western continent might have been a sweet deal for elves and lizards both, and it's only the Evil interloping humans that complain.

On the other paw, Thor's comment (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1142.html) that "he ascended to godhood during this world's tenure" (original emphasis) probably kills my "Mortal Gods' Hypothesis postulate" anyway.

Grey Wolf

[TheSaracen]

We aleady had this thread (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?568587-So-how-long-have-the-Elven-Gods-etc-been-around/page10), it's not even past the necromancy threshold yet.

My apologies, I hadn't seen the previous thread. Grey Wolf's hypothesis seems reasonable.