Thor's Pryimid (1144)

[Sudain]

Thor references a pyramid that they no longer use. Does anyone know what they are talking about? I'm guessing a reference from 1e or 2e?

[Kantaki]

Thor's talking about a pyramid diagram.
It's a reference to the food pyramid.
Just with soul-stuff rather than food-stuff.

[RMS Oceanic]

No, more likely it's the food pyramid

https://www.safefood.eu/SafeFood/media/SafeFoodLibrary/Images/Healthy%20Eating/Food_Diet/Food_pyramid_transp_landscape_640.gif?ext=.gif

[SirKazum]

I was just about to post a thread asking about this as well. Judging by past references in the comic, the language seems to indicate some previous edition of D&D had this diagram in one of its books, but this is complete news to me. Anyone know what this is about?

edit: ninja'd by the food pyramid above. I guess the "we don't use that anymore" refers to the food pyramid being considered outdated now. Duh.

[Jasdoif]

edit: ninja'd by the food pyramid above. I guess the "we don't use that anymore" refers to the food pyramid being considered outdated now. Duh.Perhaps more specifically, the USDA food pyramid diagram was replaced in 2011. (I think its classic form (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:USDA_Food_Pyramid.gif)'s four tiers map particularly well to the four deific "food" groups presented in the comic.)

[Peelee]

I was just about to post a thread asking about this as well. Judging by past references in the comic, the language seems to indicate some previous edition of D&D had this diagram in one of its books, but this is complete news to me. Anyone know what this is about?

edit: ninja'd by the food pyramid above. I guess the "we don't use that anymore" refers to the food pyramid being considered outdated now. Duh.

Well, less "considered outdated" and more "considered a load of hogswallop because the dairy and grain industries lobbied like crazy to influence it."

[Borris]

When I first read the comic, I thought it was a reference to Maslow's pyramid of needs.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/33/MaslowsHierarchyOfNeeds.svg/300px-MaslowsHierarchyOfNeeds.svg.png

I guess that's what I get for not living in the United States.

[SirKazum]

Well, less "considered outdated" and more "considered a load of hogswallop because the dairy and grain industries lobbied like crazy to influence it."

You mean like pizza is now officially a salad in US public schools?

[Rogar Demonblud]

Well, ketchup is a vegetable.

[Grey_Wolf_c]

You mean like pizza is now officially a salad in US public schools?

It's not quite that ridiculous. Pizza counts towards the daily vegetable objective because of the tomatoes in it. But it does not "officially a salad (https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/post/did-congress-declare-pizza-as-a-vegetable-not-exactly/2011/11/20/gIQABXgmhN_blog.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.db860fe16593)", or a vegetable, or anything like that. It simply acknowledges that the tomato paste has the nutritional elements that make it count as one unit towards your daily 5 servings or whatever the US equivalent is.

Grey Wolf

[Peelee]

You mean like pizza is now officially a salad in US public schools?

What Grey Wolf said. Also, a pretty good history (http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2013/09/invented-food-pyramid/), if you want.

[Jasdoif]

When I first read the comic, I thought it was a reference to Maslow's pyramid of needs.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/33/MaslowsHierarchyOfNeeds.svg/300px-MaslowsHierarchyOfNeeds.svg.pngWell, Maslow's pyramid of needs is also (better?) known as Maslow's hierarchy of needs, because it's a hierarchy; the idea that (for example) physiological needs have to be taken care of before safety needs will be considered. The kind of specific balance Thor was talking about doesn't fit very cleanly.

[SirKazum]

It's not quite that ridiculous. Pizza counts towards the daily vegetable objective because of the tomatoes in it. But it does not "officially a salad (https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/post/did-congress-declare-pizza-as-a-vegetable-not-exactly/2011/11/20/gIQABXgmhN_blog.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.db860fe16593)", or a vegetable, or anything like that. It simply acknowledges that the tomato paste has the nutritional elements that make it count as one unit towards your daily 5 servings or whatever the US equivalent is.

Grey Wolf

Didn't have that full story. Thanks for the correction!