From theory to practice: Wizard 20 wants all-day Foresight

[Segev]

How does he get it?

Parameters are: he is a straight Wizard 20; no multi-class, no PrC. He's not above cheesing, but he's not really built to exploit the rules to the utmost. PErhaps he got to level 17 before realizing he needed shenanigans beyond "having Wizard spells."

He'd like foresight up all day (because what properly paranoid wizard doesn't?); how does he get as close to this as possible?

At 20th level, a bare-bones foresight lasts 3 hours and 20 minutes. He'd need 5 castings (and thus 5 9th level spell slots) to just dover the 16 hours a day he's not resting. And even if he cast a sixth to cover part of his rest, that's mroe than half his 8 hours he'd be without it.

Extend Spell doubles this, but requires either epic levels (with 10th level spell slots) or a very expensive Greater Rod of Extend Spell. I forget if those have 2 or 3 charges per day; with 3, that'd get him "6" castings' equivalent time from 3 spell slots, at least (or all but about 4 and a half hours of his rest period).

He's not a multiclasser into Cleric, and he doesn't have Incantatar levels, so I don't think he can "freely" persist the spell.

What other tricks are there? Remember, foresight is crucial to the usual shenanigans that keep a wizard able to throw all his other spells up at a moment's notice; it prevents him from being too flat-footed to drop a celerity followed by a time stop, if needs be.

(Obviously, there are Contingent Spells, and he probably has those, but they're expensive and he'd rather not use them up if he doesn't have to.)

[MaxiDuRaritry]

Metamagic cost reducers and Persistent Spell?

Acorn of far travel spell cast on a tree in a timeless-with-respect-to-magic plane?

[Inevitability]

I mean 'contingent spells cost a lot' is only meaningful if money still means anything to a level 17 wizard (fun fact: it does not). Wall of Salt, anyone?

[Quertus]

By default, without going custom items, the rods have 3 charges.

Personally, if we're going custom, I prefer a rod of persist spell.

[Anzyr]

Slow down everyone, there's a simple answer to this:

Step 1: Buy a ring of continuation.
Step 2: Cast foresight.

[noob]

Create 10(or maybe more) ice assassins of straight level 20 wizards then he can with shapechange turn in a parasite for sharing spells and so have shapechange most of the time and have 10 wizards that can cast personal boost spells on him so he can have foresight for a bit more than 16 hours a day(as well as shapechange).
Without ice assassin if he is in team spell-caster he can probably use that parasite thing for getting a foresight for the cost of a shapechange and still have the shapechange for the rest of its duration.

[Nifft]

Sudden Extend (CArc) and Eldritch Corruption (HoH) both offer ways to extend a 9th level spell without paying for a Greater Rod.

[Malroth]

Cast Wish to duplicate the Psionic Power: Psycic Reformation. Use the power to get the following Feats: Extend spell, Invisible spell, Sanctum spell, Persist Spell. Arcane thesis: (Foresight), Easy Metamagic (Persist spell) Metamagic School Focus (Divination): You can then cast Extended, Persistant Foresights from your Ninths.

[noob]

Cast Wish to duplicate the Psionic Power: Psycic Reformation. Use the power to get the following Feats: Extend spell, Invisible spell, Sanctum spell, Persist Spell. Arcane thesis: (Foresight), Easy Metamagic (Persist spell) Metamagic School Focus (Divination): You can then cast Extended, Persistant Foresights from your Ninths.
Wait one second.
You can not duplicate psionic powers in the list of default options.
So you are doing a "greater option" wish which will make you explode in a way that kills everyone you care about.
Use gate for getting a psion like a normal person or go to the psion mart and buy the manifesting service.

[Cruiser1]

Wait one second.
You can not duplicate psionic powers in the list of default options.
So you are doing a "greater option" wish which will make you explode in a way that kills everyone you care about.
Indeed, this is another reason why Miracle (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/miracle.htm) is more powerful than Wish (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/wish.htm). Unlike Wish, Miracle's allowed safe choices include "any effect whose power level is in line with the above effects". Miracle can duplicate any other spell of 7th level or lower, and Psychic Reformation (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/powers/psychicReformation.htm) is a 4th level psionic power, which is a much weaker effect than a 7th level spell, so Miracle should be able to duplicate it safely. Miracle's safe choices also don't cost XP (only greater effects cost 5000 XP) unlike Wish which always costs 5000 XP no matter how safe your wish.

[noob]

Miracle however do not allows time travel directly like wish does.
how do time travel with wish work.
step 1: change the previous turn.
step 2: ineluctables comes for you.
Step 3: profit.

[Saintheart]

Indeed, this is another reason why Miracle (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/miracle.htm) is more powerful than Wish (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/wish.htm). Unlike Wish, Miracle's allowed safe choices include "any effect whose power level is in line with the above effects". Miracle can duplicate any other spell of 7th level or lower, and Psychic Reformation (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/powers/psychicReformation.htm) is a 4th level psionic power, which is a much weaker effect than a 7th level spell, so Miracle should be able to duplicate it safely. Miracle's safe choices also don't cost XP (only greater effects cost 5000 XP) unlike Wish which always costs 5000 XP no matter how safe your wish.

Go see an Ur-Priest entry Runecaster.

Market price of a permanent rune of Miracle duplicating a Foresight spell would be 9 x 9 x 2,000 = 162,000 gp. We can cut the cost down if the Runecaster has DMM Persistent Spell, which makes the spell's duration about 6.66 hours and doesn't raise the cost of the rune (since it's a full spell cast as a rune) thus we need about 4 uses per day. 9 x 9 x 400 x 4 = 129,600 gp. Your mage now has a Button of the Future that he can tap four times a day and cover his whole 24 hours.

[Quertus]

Indeed, this is another reason why Miracle (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/miracle.htm) is more powerful than Wish (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/wish.htm). Unlike Wish, Miracle's allowed safe choices include "any effect whose power level is in line with the above effects". Miracle can duplicate any other spell of 7th level or lower, and Psychic Reformation (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/powers/psychicReformation.htm) is a 4th level psionic power, which is a much weaker effect than a 7th level spell, so Miracle should be able to duplicate it safely. Miracle's safe choices also don't cost XP (only greater effects cost 5000 XP) unlike Wish which always costs 5000 XP no matter how safe your wish.

Which is why my Arcane Spellcasters always take Miracle over Wish.


Go see an Ur-Priest entry Runecaster.

Market price of a permanent rune of Miracle duplicating a Foresight spell would be 9 x 9 x 2,000 = 162,000 gp. We can cut the cost down if the Runecaster has DMM Persistent Spell, which makes the spell's duration about 6.66 hours and doesn't raise the cost of the rune (since it's a full spell cast as a rune) thus we need about 4 uses per day. 9 x 9 x 400 x 4 = 129,600 gp. Your mage now has a Button of the Future that he can tap four times a day and cover his whole 24 hours.

Can his familiar move his arm to tap the button while he sleeps?

[icefractal]

3.5 or Pathfinder?
In PF, the Ring of Continuation is a simple and not too expensive option.

A more expensive, but Core-only option that works in both is to get a Greater Rod of Extend, a Pearl of Power (9th), and get a CL of 24 (various methods). That gives you 16 hours/day of Foresight, and you can get a second pearl if you want a full 24.

If you can swing a CL of 48 (Consumptive Field + Greater CF gets you there with a starting CL of 22), then you just need the Extend.

[Biffoniacus_Furiou]

A corpse is an object. I believe Magic Jar (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/magicJar.htm) qualifies you for this condition as well.

Uguent of Timelessness (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicItems/wondrousItems.htm#unguentofTimelessness) can be applied to an object, including a corpse.

The unguent never wears off, so when you're alive in your own body again your passage of time is 1/365 of normal, indefinitely. You age one day for every year that goes by, you only need eight hours of sleep and three meals for every year that goes by (but you can still rest and prepare spells every day), etc.

In this state, a spell that's cast on you should last 365 times longer. At 20th level, a 10-minute per level Foresight lasts 73,000 minutes on you, or over fifty days. A 1-minute per level spell lasts five days on you, a 1-round per level spell lasts 12 hours on you, and a 1-hour per level spell lasts nearly an entire year on you.

This also affects opponents' spells that are cast directly on you, but not spells that affect an area that you happen to be in.

Keep in mind that the unguent can be dispelled or disjoined as well.

[Crake]

Wait one second.
You can not duplicate psionic powers in the list of default options.
So you are doing a "greater option" wish which will make you explode in a way that kills everyone you care about.
Use gate for getting a psion like a normal person or go to the psion mart and buy the manifesting service.

I believe according to magic/psionics transparency, anything that refers to spells also counts as referring to psionic powers. Naturally, an arcane spell does not count, but for "any other spell of X level or lower" does indeed include powers.


A corpse is an object. I believe Magic Jar (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/magicJar.htm) qualifies you for this condition as well.

Uguent of Timelessness (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicItems/wondrousItems.htm#unguentofTimelessness) can be applied to an object, including a corpse.

The unguent never wears off, so when you're alive in your own body again your passage of time is 1/365 of normal, indefinitely. You age one day for every year that goes by, you only need eight hours of sleep and three meals for every year that goes by (but you can still rest and prepare spells every day), etc.

In this state, a spell that's cast on you should last 365 times longer. At 20th level, a 10-minute per level Foresight lasts 73,000 minutes on you, or over fifty days. A 1-minute per level spell lasts five days on you, a 1-round per level spell lasts 12 hours on you, and a 1-hour per level spell lasts nearly an entire year on you.

This also affects opponents' spells that are cast directly on you, but not spells that affect an area that you happen to be in.

Keep in mind that the unguent can be dispelled or disjoined as well.

Unguent of timelessness only affects the object in question, not spells cast upon the object.

[Jack_Simth]

Indeed, this is another reason why Miracle (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/miracle.htm) is more powerful than Wish (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/wish.htm). Unlike Wish, Miracle's allowed safe choices include "any effect whose power level is in line with the above effects". Miracle can duplicate any other spell of 7th level or lower, and Psychic Reformation (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/powers/psychicReformation.htm) is a 4th level psionic power, which is a much weaker effect than a 7th level spell, so Miracle should be able to duplicate it safely. Miracle's safe choices also don't cost XP (only greater effects cost 5000 XP) unlike Wish which always costs 5000 XP no matter how safe your wish.

Note that Limited Wish (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/limitedWish.htm), on the other hand, does have the "effects in line with the above" clause, specifically worded as: "Produce any other effect whose power level is in line with the above effects, such as a single creature automatically hitting on its next attack or taking a -7 penalty on its next saving throw."

As Psychic Reformation (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/powers/psychicReformation.htm) is a 4th level power, it should be in line with "Duplicate any other spell of 4th level or lower, even if it’s of a prohibited school."

To re-do 20 levels worth of choices, you'd need 1,000 xp, which conveniently lines up with the cost of Gate.

[Ramza00]

Spontaneous Divination Wizard 5 Substitution Option combine with the Arcane Disciple feat so you can use Time Domain and get Foresight as an 8th level spell instead of a 9th level spell. Aka 2 feats to lower the spell slot (plus other spontaneous divination benefits).

[Saintheart]

Can his familiar move his arm to tap the button while he sleeps?

Per the RAW, whoever touches the rune becomes the target of the spell placed within it, so ... yeah?

[tiercel]

If Limited Wish: Psychic Reformation is on the table, then ten levels of Divine Oracle.

Technically, that’s not Foresight, but Immune to Surprise + (Improved) Uncanny Dodge pretty much covers it, and is (Ex) to boot.

[ExLibrisMortis]

If you're going to persist, get shapechange--but casting it every three to six hours works too. Turn into an elemental weird, use its at-will free-action foresight, and turn right back. Do this every three hours.

1/day use of consumptive field, greater consumptive field, and a bead of karma can get a 20th-level wizard CL 54 for a few minutes, so you can cast Extended shapechange then, and enjoy it for eighteen hours.

[eggynack]

If you're going to persist, get shapechange--but casting it every three to six hours works too. Turn into an elemental weird, use its at-will free-action foresight, and turn right back. Do this every three hours.

I'm simultaneously vaguely irritated and happy about the fact that doppelganger's bile, which allows you to extend shapechange for 95 GP a pop, only works with divine casters.

[MaxiDuRaritry]

I'm simultaneously vaguely irritated and happy about the fact that doppelganger's bile, which allows you to extend shapechange for 95 GP a pop, only works with divine casters.Yay Alternative Source Spell?

[eggynack]

Yay Alternative Source Spell?
Hard to tell. The rules say you need to be a divine caster. It's never clear whether you even need more than a single cleric level to start using power components on all your arcane magic. I dunno that you need the feat as a result, given that it requires that divine caster level. I guess the idea would be to also take southern magician or something. The whole thing is so weird.

[rferries]

"Helm of Foresight" - once per day, the wearer of this helm may cast foresight on herself. 91,800 gp, caster level 17th.

Craft/purchase 9 of them and use them over the course of the day. A trifling 777,600 gp but probably the best RAI option. :p

[unseenmage]

What wizard, nay what player character, sleeps eight whole hours a night when they've had a Ring of Sustenance since they were but a wee E6 character?


Also, Simulacrum. Just let your clones cast the spell for you. Or make scrolls, whatever works. Or magic jar into you then cast it.

Or just make a resetting magic trap on your spellbook of it.

[icefractal]

Also, Simulacrum. Just let your clones cast the spell for you. Or make scrolls, whatever works. Or magic jar into you then cast it.

Or just make a resetting magic trap on your spellbook of it.Simulacrum is a great spell, but it doesn't do that. Your own Simulacra will only be 10th level - and unless you're using the ELH, so will be those of any other Wizard you copy.

Ice Assassin would do it, although you probably don't want to make them of yourself. That one's a bit more labor intensive though - you need to put them in stasis whenever you want to go out of control range.

[unseenmage]

Simulacrum is a great spell, but it doesn't do that. Your own Simulacra will only be 10th level - and unless you're using the ELH, so will be those of any other Wizard you copy.

Ice Assassin would do it, although you probably don't want to make them of yourself. That one's a bit more labor intensive though - you need to put them in stasis whenever you want to go out of control range.

Depends on whether you allow more than 100% real Sims or not. Last I saw that arguement it was a stalemate.

And isn't the trick with Ice Assassin to copy the copy then help the copied copy kill the original copy of yourself?

[Ramza00]

"Helm of Foresight" - once per day, the wearer of this helm may cast foresight on herself. 91,800 gp, caster level 17th.

Craft/purchase 9 of them and use them over the course of the day. A trifling 777,600 gp but probably the best RAI option. :p

Pearl of Power is cheaper (81,000 GP for a 9th level pearl.) That helm of foresight is useful for a party without 9th level spells like a team of 4 melee class. Or if you are using spontaneous casters for memento magicka are more expensive for no good reason.

[rferries]

Pearl of Power is cheaper (81,000 GP for a 9th level pearl.) That helm of foresight is useful for a party without 9th level spells like a team of 4 melee class. Or if you are using spontaneous casters for memento magicka are more expensive for no good reason.

Huh can't believe I overlooked the pearl! I just whipped up a homebrew item, forgot there was a pre-existing one. Good catch!

[RoboEmperor]

Pay 17,960xp to cast Wish to create a Permanent Rune of Foresight

[Ramza00]

Huh can't believe I overlooked the pearl! I just whipped up a homebrew item, forgot there was a pre-existing one. Good catch!


If we are doing homebrew a custom magic item based off the psionic power Sense Danger would get us many of the benefits of Foresight for a cheaper cost (note it has some lesser benefits but also some greater benefits compared to foresight.)

45,000 gp=3*5*2000 GP*1.5 (10 min / level) if based off the psion version
24,000 gp=2*4*2000 GP*1.5 (10 min / level) if based off the psychic warrior version.

Sense Danger gives you

A) you do not lose your Dexterity bonus to Armor Class when you are flat-footed.
B) in the surprise round even if you are unaware you can use your immediate action (that replace your next round immediate action for you do not get all your actions in a surprise round) to cast a psionic power with 1 pp. Also the manifesting time has to be a standard action (aka not any longer manifesting psionic power.) If you augment this power (which would increase the cost of the magic item) you can manifest bigger psionic powers.

It would be reasonable if this is a ported / non psionic homebrew item that you can cast a 1st level spell as an immediate action.

[MaxiDuRaritry]

B) in the surprise round even if you are unaware you can use your immediate action (that replace your next round immediate action for you do not get all your actions in a surprise round) to cast a psionic power with 1 pp. Also the manifesting time has to be a standard action (aka not any longer manifesting psionic power.) If you augment this power (which would increase the cost of the magic item) you can manifest bigger psionic powers.Huh. Use that 1 pp to manifest synchronicity, and suddenly you can manifest any standard action power with full augmentation. Feel free to use that to manifest Twin Power synchronicity. Very nice...

[Segev]

Stacking the feats to get Persistant foresight into a 9th level slot is a good solution, though expensive, build-wise.

"Helm of Foresight" - once per day, the wearer of this helm may cast foresight on herself. 91,800 gp, caster level 17th.

Craft/purchase 9 of them and use them over the course of the day. A trifling 777,600 gp but probably the best RAI option. :p
Pearl of Power is cheaper (81,000 GP for a 9th level pearl.) That helm of foresight is useful for a party without 9th level spells like a team of 4 melee class. Or if you are using spontaneous casters for memento magicka are more expensive for no good reason.Hm, these are definitely in line with RAI. The Helm, if a custom item, can actually get a 30% reduction in cost if only a wizard can use it, putting it at 64,260 gp, which ekes out just a bit cheaper.


If you're going to persist, get shapechange--but casting it every three to six hours works too. Turn into an elemental weird, use its at-will free-action foresight, and turn right back. Do this every three hours.

1/day use of consumptive field, greater consumptive field, and a bead of karma can get a 20th-level wizard CL 54 for a few minutes, so you can cast Extended shapechange then, and enjoy it for eighteen hours.Ah! I'd totally forgotten the Elemental Weirds! They're also subject to planar binding (or maybe its Greater sibling; I'd need to check their HD), and while that wouldn't give you the all-important immediate action, ordering one to keep foresight up for you all the time can't hurt. But isn't quite the solution (except for the ability to shapechange into them helping with the issue).


What wizard, nay what player character, sleeps eight whole hours a night when they've had a Ring of Sustenance since they were but a wee E6 character?True, the Ring of Sustenance makes the solutions that require casting in the middle of the night more viable, but IIRC, it doesn't reduce your required rest-without-spellcasting period for refreshing spells, does it?


If we are doing homebrew a custom magic item based off the psionic power Sense Danger would get us many of the benefits of Foresight for a cheaper cost (note it has some lesser benefits but also some greater benefits compared to foresight.)

45,000 gp=3*5*2000 GP*1.5 (10 min / level) if based off the psion version
24,000 gp=2*4*2000 GP*1.5 (10 min / level) if based off the psychic warrior version.

Sense Danger gives you

A) you do not lose your Dexterity bonus to Armor Class when you are flat-footed.
B) in the surprise round even if you are unaware you can use your immediate action (that replace your next round immediate action for you do not get all your actions in a surprise round) to cast a psionic power with 1 pp. Also the manifesting time has to be a standard action (aka not any longer manifesting psionic power.) If you augment this power (which would increase the cost of the magic item) you can manifest bigger psionic powers.

It would be reasonable if this is a ported / non psionic homebrew item that you can cast a 1st level spell as an immediate action.Nice, but missing the all-important immediate action, still. The classic wizard solution to never being caught unawares is celerity into whatever spells they might need (usually either some sort of get-out-of-there-now-because-I-wasn't-ready-for-a-fight, or time stop to take a few rounds to put the finishing touches on the battlefield), but that requires not BEING flat-footed. Since few wizard spells are 1 pp, that doesn't work here.

A well-built cerebromancer could be even worse than a psion for action economy, though. o_o


Huh. Use that 1 pp to manifest synchronicity, and suddenly you can manifest any standard action power with full augmentation. Feel free to use that to manifest Twin Power synchronicity. Very nice...For a psion, that's golden.

Holy cow, though, the ring of continuation is perfect. Only 28,000 gp!? ANd it looks like it actually works on ALL spells, not jsut one at a time, that meet its requirements. So you could cast foresight, shapechange, and a number of other "dungeon-length" spells as breakfast spells for that one ring cost.

[RoboEmperor]

Holy cow, though, the ring of continuation is perfect. Only 28,000 gp!? ANd it looks like it actually works on ALL spells, not jsut one at a time, that meet its requirements. So you could cast foresight, shapechange, and a number of other "dungeon-length" spells as breakfast spells for that one ring cost.

It's pathfinder exclusive is it not? Are you in a PF game?

[Ramza00]

Huh. Use that 1 pp to manifest synchronicity, and suddenly you can manifest any standard action power with full augmentation. Feel free to use that to manifest Twin Power synchronicity. Very nice...

Of course if we are doing a psion build or a cerbremancer, or even an hidden talent feat with external power points (such as using pearls of power which act as cognizance crystals which can return power points.)

But my point about 1st level spells is if you do not have your options it would be reasonable for a homebrew magic item to give you a similar effect with 1st level spells.



A well-built cerebromancer could be even worse than a psion for action economy, though. o_o

For a psion, that's golden.

Yes, a cerbremancer build is actually very good compared to a normal wizard / prestige class with only a few wizard prestige classes being better (for example incantatrix or innate of the seven fold veil.) Especially with early entry that only allows you to use 1 wizard level and 3 psion levels.

Synchronicity is that good.

Synchronicity+Linked Power is great!

Synchronicity combined with Schism allows you to throw almost double the amount of wizard spells! Even if you only get 13 levels of psion and 17 levels of wizard, just use the psion side for action economy abuse (synchronicity, schism, temporal acceleration, anticiaptory strike aka almost as good as celerity.)

That is even before we add sense danger (which I talked about earlier) to your list, or greater blink combined with synchronicity. (Aka you are Tobi always on the ethereal plane at a moment's notice as a defensive measure using your ready actions to slip back to the ethereal plane thus losing line of sight, line of effect unless the enemy uses a force effect and even that is partly blocked by other spells that protect you from force effect. For example suppressing field blocks all but 4 other spells from damaging you for almost all force damage spells are evocation. Well besides that 4 there are the shadow evocation line. But you get my point here.)

Cerbremancers are good if you know how to build them. Then again your enemies that your DM create can use the same nasty tools.

[Segev]

It's pathfinder exclusive is it not? Are you in a PF game?

Neither, right now. I realize now that my thread title may be deceptive, as I find myself saying, "This is looking into how a theoretical non-TO character might do it." But my purpose was to try to pull away from the deeper theory-craft that we get into around here and see how viable this was with things that don't require extreme dedication to the trick nor going for some of the more questionable-that-a-DM-would-allow-it tricks. We've had some great suggestions in here, and I appreciate them. I do apologize if my title in any way was deceptive; it wasn't intentional.

I'm actually contemplating a fiction use for it, involving a 20th level caster who, due to various reasons I won't go into, is having to ... not "start over," but at least start from a position of being deprived of a lot of his normal resources. He's got a reasonably safe place to do it from, but in particular is absent his spellbooks and the means to trivially retrieve them. What he does have is a small reserve of magics he was able to rescribe into a spellbook from what he had prepped.

Perhaps he was improperly paranoid before, leading to this condition, and he now seeks to rectify that with more optimal spell preparation and the like.

Anyway, without rebuilding, or building towards one single spell, I was just looking to see what the most straight-forward ways (in the sense of "of course a wizard of his power could pull this off") to always have foresight up might be, and so far, the Ring of Continuation is the best idea.

It almost seems too good; I wonder what Paizo was thinking.

[unseenmage]

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True, the Ring of Sustenance makes the solutions that require casting in the middle of the night more viable, but IIRC, it doesn't reduce your required rest-without-spellcasting period for refreshing spells, does it?

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The ring also refreshes the body and mind; its wearer needs only sleep 2 hours per day to gain the benefit of 8 hours of sleep. This allows a spellcaster that requires rest to prepare spells to do so after only 2 hours, but this does not allow a spellcaster to prepare spells more than once per day.
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So yeah, definitely works to let you prep spells on less rest.

[Quertus]

Holy cow, though, the ring of continuation is perfect. Only 28,000 gp!? ANd it looks like it actually works on ALL spells, not jsut one at a time, that meet its requirements. So you could cast foresight, shapechange, and a number of other "dungeon-length" spells as breakfast spells for that one ring cost.

Just to point out, that's the cost to make it - the market price is 56k.

And, when you cast a second Personal spell - regardless of whether the ring benefits it - you lose the benefits from the ring on the first spell.

So, still nice, but not perfect.

[MaxiDuRaritry]

I dunno about PF, but 3.5 allows arcane spellcasters and psionic manifesters to refresh themselves multiple times per day (after 8 hours of rest, or 2 with a ring of sustenance). Clerics, however, can only do so once per day (at dusk, dawn, noon, midnight, or some other specific time per day).

Heward's fortifying bedroll is usable by one character once every other day (so two different characters can alternate using it, since it bestows its effects once each day), and it allows for 1 hour's worth of rest to refresh oneself in the same way. So just wear a ring and use the bedroll for an average of 1.5 hours of rest per night.

[Troacctid]

Leadership. Get a Warlock cohort. Have them cast Dark Foresight on you.

[Segev]

Leadership. Get a Warlock cohort. Have them cast Dark Foresight on you.

Ah, that would do it, yes. I keep for getting Dark Foresight actually gives the reflex and no-flat-footed bonuses. Though that is leaving your cohort high and dry for his own foresight-laden protection...but hey, he's already not got the crucial defenses that come from being a true full caster.

And I did miss the part about a Ring of Continuation ending its continuation effect when you cast another spell with a range of Personal. I think I actually misparsed that to indicate the opposite and that it would keep continuing all such spells as were eligible. So not as good, but still quite good. Just don't plan on shapechanging if you've got foresight stored. Though at that point, the Water Weird trick to just periodically pop into Weird form and (Su) yourself up a free-action foresight is more than sufficient. ...that wouldn't even end the Continuation, I think, because it's not a spell or spell-like ability.