nonsi
2018-10-31, 11:09 AM
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Following this discussion (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?572050-Legendary-Master-a-super-Expert-WIP), I was wondering if there could be a practical way in which the Master class can be upgraded to make it applicable for being a contributing factor in an adventuring party.
Given that it's divided into 4 different focuses, I tried to come up with something generalized enough so that the result doesn't favor one over the others.
The solution I thought of is as follows:
1. At levels 13 and 19, the master gains Tertiary Focus and Quaternary Focus respectively. At those levels, their primary/secondary/tertiary/quaternary focuses are increased by an additional +2 (to a maximum of +8/+6/+4/+2 respectively).
That way one can become a true master of his primary focus and excel in other focuses, eventually touching all aspects of being a master.
2. Drawing from the Generic Classes solution (Unearthed Arcana (D&D 3e; 2004), p.76)....... at 1st level and again at each level divisible by 3, a master gains a special ability drawn from the list of proposed features (Fav. Enemy, Sneak Attack, Evasion etc.)
This could give the class some level of combat lastability, as well as versatility.
I'm wondering if it's enough for building a decent character, or if the result would be obviously inferior.
I'm leaning toward using this (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?490409) as my measuring tool - which makes me think that my proposal is still not enough.
For the sake of maintaining an elegant class design, levels 4, 10 and 16 can hold additional features, but I'm not sure what to put into them.
Since Knacks already cover the diversification between the different focuses, I thought of a simple solution of granting a general feat at those levels.
... and even then the class seems a bit inferior to me, but I can think of nothing else that could fit into it in a convincing manner.
In terms of class advancement, this is what I have so far:
Table: Master
Saves
LevelBABFRWSpecial
1st+0+0+0+2Primary focus (+2), Knack, Gen. Class Ability (UA, p.76)
2nd+1+0+0+3Bonus feat
3rd+1+1+1+3Gen. Class Ability
4th+2+1+1+4Knack, < SOMETHING ?? >
5th+2+1+1+4Bonus feat
6th+3+2+2+5Gen. Class Ability
7th+3+2+2+5Secondary focus (+4/+2), Knack
8th+4+2+2+6Bonus feat
9th+4+3+3+6Gen. Class Ability
10th+5+3+3+7Knack, < SOMETHING ?? >
11th+5+3+3+7Bonus feat
12th+6+4+4+8Gen. Class Ability
13th+6+4+4+8Tertiary focus (+6/+4/+2), Knack
14th+7+4+4+9Bonus feat
15th+7+5+5+9Gen. Class Ability
16th+8+5+5+10Knack, < SOMETHING ?? >
17th+8+5+5+10Bonus feat
18th+9+6+6+11Gen. Class Ability
19th+9+6+6+11Quaternary focus (+8/+6/+4/+2), Knack
20th+10+6+6+12Bonus feat
Following this discussion (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?572050-Legendary-Master-a-super-Expert-WIP), I was wondering if there could be a practical way in which the Master class can be upgraded to make it applicable for being a contributing factor in an adventuring party.
Given that it's divided into 4 different focuses, I tried to come up with something generalized enough so that the result doesn't favor one over the others.
The solution I thought of is as follows:
1. At levels 13 and 19, the master gains Tertiary Focus and Quaternary Focus respectively. At those levels, their primary/secondary/tertiary/quaternary focuses are increased by an additional +2 (to a maximum of +8/+6/+4/+2 respectively).
That way one can become a true master of his primary focus and excel in other focuses, eventually touching all aspects of being a master.
2. Drawing from the Generic Classes solution (Unearthed Arcana (D&D 3e; 2004), p.76)....... at 1st level and again at each level divisible by 3, a master gains a special ability drawn from the list of proposed features (Fav. Enemy, Sneak Attack, Evasion etc.)
This could give the class some level of combat lastability, as well as versatility.
I'm wondering if it's enough for building a decent character, or if the result would be obviously inferior.
I'm leaning toward using this (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?490409) as my measuring tool - which makes me think that my proposal is still not enough.
For the sake of maintaining an elegant class design, levels 4, 10 and 16 can hold additional features, but I'm not sure what to put into them.
Since Knacks already cover the diversification between the different focuses, I thought of a simple solution of granting a general feat at those levels.
... and even then the class seems a bit inferior to me, but I can think of nothing else that could fit into it in a convincing manner.
In terms of class advancement, this is what I have so far:
Table: Master
Saves
LevelBABFRWSpecial
1st+0+0+0+2Primary focus (+2), Knack, Gen. Class Ability (UA, p.76)
2nd+1+0+0+3Bonus feat
3rd+1+1+1+3Gen. Class Ability
4th+2+1+1+4Knack, < SOMETHING ?? >
5th+2+1+1+4Bonus feat
6th+3+2+2+5Gen. Class Ability
7th+3+2+2+5Secondary focus (+4/+2), Knack
8th+4+2+2+6Bonus feat
9th+4+3+3+6Gen. Class Ability
10th+5+3+3+7Knack, < SOMETHING ?? >
11th+5+3+3+7Bonus feat
12th+6+4+4+8Gen. Class Ability
13th+6+4+4+8Tertiary focus (+6/+4/+2), Knack
14th+7+4+4+9Bonus feat
15th+7+5+5+9Gen. Class Ability
16th+8+5+5+10Knack, < SOMETHING ?? >
17th+8+5+5+10Bonus feat
18th+9+6+6+11Gen. Class Ability
19th+9+6+6+11Quaternary focus (+8/+6/+4/+2), Knack
20th+10+6+6+12Bonus feat