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RoboEmperor
2018-11-04, 03:22 AM
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Thurbane
2018-11-04, 04:48 PM
This might seem brutally simple, but how about the methods for using the spell as an SLA? That removes XP cost altogether.

OgresAreCute
2018-11-04, 05:08 PM
This might seem brutally simple, but how about the methods for using the spell as an SLA? That removes XP cost altogether.


I'm NOT looking for ways to cast the spell for free like Dweomerkeeper, Spell-Stitched, Grisgol, Runic Guardians etc. I am talking about literally reducing the xp cost of casting.

Well, whaddaya know.

Thurbane
2018-11-04, 05:10 PM
Well, whaddaya know.

Fair enough. :smalltongue:

Goaty14
2018-11-04, 05:21 PM
Extract Demonic Essence only curses items; there isn't a percentage chance of anything bad happening (except maybe an angry demon) if you use it for a spell.

One Step Two
2018-11-04, 05:34 PM
Would the DM consider crafting a Scroll of Wish using Liquid Pain or Ambrosia to pay the XP for both the crafting cost and the spell cost at the same time to be okay? As far as the SRD is concerned (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicItems/creatingMagicItems.htm#creatingScrolls), you pay both XP costs at the same time.

flappeercraft
2018-11-04, 05:49 PM
Hm, I can't come up with anything but maybe if we know what you're going to use this for we can help you a bit more with alternate solutions.

Rebel7284
2018-11-04, 06:04 PM
Outside of turning it into a SLA or similar, the best way to get XP-free wishes remains having someone else do it for you. So Dominate Person? Probably after removing Mind Blank/etc.

Edit:
Would using twin spell allow you to bypass paying the XP cost again?

Goaty14
2018-11-04, 06:30 PM
Yeah that's exactly why I'm looking for ways to reduce the XP cost of spells and not magic items. There's literally no downside to Extract Demonic Essence if you use it to cast spells.

Well yes, but your #1 line of reasoning implies that you're, for some odd reason, are complaining about the fact.

flappeercraft
2018-11-04, 08:14 PM
XD. It's fine. I respond without reading the first post either.

I generally read the first post twice, this was no exception. I have no idea how I missed that. I think I'm blind.

Efrate
2018-11-06, 09:26 PM
There is a rod in the elh that can provide xp for spell casting or item crafting iirc. 2k per rod, once a day. 13 of them allow you to craft infinte of the same rods at no xp cost. It's epic though so good luck.

flappeercraft
2018-11-06, 09:32 PM
There is a rod in the elh that can provide xp for spell casting or item crafting iirc. 2k per rod, once a day. 13 of them allow you to craft infinte of the same rods at no xp cost. It's epic though so good luck.

It was actually mentioned in the OP. It's the Rod of Excellent Magic.

MaxiDuRaritry
2018-11-06, 10:07 PM
3rd party book Ultimate Feats has Inner Depths of the Soul, which knocks off 10% of all XP costs, with a further 5% off for each additional time you take it.

Rebel7284
2018-11-07, 12:54 AM
Glad I could help! If twin spell works for you, you may also want to look at Repeat Spell for a similar effect at a slightly cheaper adjustment.