Dex-based Perform skills

[nonsi]

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In real life, not all performances rely on one's ability to captivate an audience, or finesse. Some require fancy handwork and footwork and amazing hand-eye coordination.

While card tricks can be associated with Sleight of Hand and Tightrope walking can be attributed to Balance (a bit of a stretch, but we'll let it slide), I can think of 4 things that don't fit any of the proposed 3.Xe skills:
1. Juggling
2. Unicycle Riding
3. Barrel & Board Balancing
4. Object Spinning (mainly balls, but not just)

Since only Juggling can be considered common sports in the middle-ages, this leaves me with Juggling and nothing more.
That's not enough to justify splitting Perform into Charisma-based set of skills and Intelligence-based set of skills.
So, if anyone can think of more examples, maybe it'll be worthwhile to explore that angle. If not, then I need suggestions what to do with Juggling.

[Lacuna Caster]

In real life, not all performances rely on one's ability to captivate an audience, or finesse. Some require fancy handwork and footwork and amazing hand-eye coordination.
In principle almost any attribute could be used for the purpose of 'doing impressive eye-catching things'. Like feats of calculation for Int, or strongman-acts for Str, or maybe memory-mnemonics for Wis, et cetera. Maybe charisma just helps with sales and presentation, so to speak.

[jiriku]

I don't think you really need a rule here. As the DM you just say "Your performance really demands more coordination than crowd interaction. Roll a Dexterity (Performance) check for me."

The game already encourages you to adjudicate in this fashion. It's not even homebrew.

[nonsi]

I don't think you really need a rule here. As the DM you just say "Your performance really demands more coordination than crowd interaction. Roll a Dexterity (Performance) check for me."

The game already encourages you to adjudicate in this fashion. It's not even homebrew.

Thanks :smallsmile:
Do you remember where exactly this is stated in core 3e? (PH / DMG . . . page No.)

[jiriku]

PHB page 175, "Variant: Skills with Different Abilities"

[jamieth]

As a note, Pathfinder explicitely allows using Sleight of Hand as Performance skill:


You can also use Sleight of Hand to entertain an audience as though you were using the Perform skill. In such a case, your "act" encompasses elements of legerdemain, juggling, and the like.