Where does a flaming sphere end up if it rams someone?

[holywhippet]

You can make a flaming sphere ram someone using your bonus action according to the spell. But where does the sphere end up if you do? Is it in the same tile as the creature or the tile it was in just before ramming? Keep in mind it isn't a creature and thus can ignore the rule about ending it's turn in the same location as another creature.

[Laserlight]

You can make a flaming sphere ram someone using your bonus action according to the spell. But where does the sphere end up if you do? Is it in the same tile as the creature or the tile it was in just before ramming? Keep in mind it isn't a creature and thus can ignore the rule about ending it's turn in the same location as another creature.

A 5-foot-diameter sphere of fire appears in an unoccupied space of your choice within range and lasts for the duration.
Any creature that ends its turn within 5 feet of the sphere must make a Dexterity saving throw

Based on the bolded parts of the spell description, it occupies its own space and does not share space with the target.

[PhoenixPhyre]

You can make a flaming sphere ram someone using your bonus action according to the spell. But where does the sphere end up if you do? Is it in the same tile as the creature or the tile it was in just before ramming? Keep in mind it isn't a creature and thus can ignore the rule about ending it's turn in the same location as another creature.


If you ram the sphere into a creature, that creature must make the saving throw against the sphere's damage, and the sphere stops moving this turn.

I see this happening before it enters their space. So it ends up adjacent to the creature that was rammed.

[holywhippet]

A 5-foot-diameter sphere of fire appears in an unoccupied space of your choice within range and lasts for the duration.
Any creature that ends its turn within 5 feet of the sphere must make a Dexterity saving throw

Based on the bolded parts of the spell description, it occupies its own space and does not share space with the target.

I wouldn't take that as a given. Fire elementals are summoned into an empty tile but they can happily enter other creature's tiles.

[Tanarii]

A 5-foot-diameter sphere of fire appears in an unoccupied space of your choice within range and lasts for the duration.
Any creature that ends its turn within 5 feet of the sphere must make a Dexterity saving throw

Based on the bolded parts of the spell description, it occupies its own space and does not share space with the target.
Yeah. It definitely occupies the space. That is part of its use, as a blocker.

[Galithar]

I wouldn't take that as a given. Fire elementals are summoned into an empty tile but they can happily enter other creature's tiles.

Fire elementals specifically call out that they can do this in their stat block. The spell description for flaming sphere does not.

[ad_hoc]

Fire elementals specifically call out that they can do this in their stat block. The spell description for flaming sphere does not.

A candle doesn't say it needs to be lit to provide light.

[holywhippet]

Fire elementals specifically call out that they can do this in their stat block. The spell description for flaming sphere does not.

Yes, but fire elementals are a creature and thus are subject to the rules for creatures. Flaming spheres aren't and don't have to. I was just saying that just because you have to summon them into an empty space (which pretty much every summoning spell requires) doesn't mean it has to stay out of other creatures space.

[Galithar]

Well feel free to rule it however you want at your table, but a flaming sphere occupies its space and can't enter the space of another creature. It takes up its entire space as the sphere is 5 feet in diameter.

[Laserlight]

I was just saying that just because you have to summon them into an empty space (which pretty much every summoning spell requires) doesn't mean it has to stay out of other creatures space.

Create bonfire, wall of flame, and firestorm all explicitly say something along the lines of "a creature in that space takes damage". Also, if Sphere wasn't a solid object, it wouldn't "ram" and would not need to stop.

If it's your table, rule it however you want; but if you want to know what the general consensus is, Sphere occupies space.

[Citadel97501]

This spell I always imagine as something like a flaming beach ball, that bounces into people burning them then lands adjacent to them blocking off that square.

[Tanarii]

A candle doesn't say it needs to be lit to provide light.
Conversely, a Flaming Sphere does say it occupies the space. So unless there is something saying otherwise, it follows the rules for occupying a space.