PDA

View Full Version : BG: SOD and dual-classing



LibraryOgre
2018-12-23, 11:14 AM
So, thinking about something: how useful would SOD be as a dual-class bridge? Like, play through BGEE as class 1, switch in SOD, and start BG2 as a well leveled member of your 2nd class?

Winthur
2018-12-23, 11:37 AM
It could work, but generally the most optimal benchmarks for dualling out are level 9 (all the HP of your first class and the XP table being very favorable; it takes the same amount of XP to hit Fighter 9->10 as it takes to take Mage 1->10.) and 13 (as Fighter, the bonus +1/2 APR). It might be a bit harder to make it there on SoD.

Technically, a level 9 ex-Fighter dualled into 10 Mage could work, because the XP cap there is 500,000 and that's the amount of XP you need to make it to 250,000 in both of these classes. However, it will likely take you a long while to hit the XP cap that way.

If you don't care for perfectly optimal dualclassing or if you're dualling out of Thief then it matters much less, of course.

Cikomyr
2019-01-01, 09:54 AM
It could work, but generally the most optimal benchmarks for dualling out are level 9 (all the HP of your first class and the XP table being very favorable; it takes the same amount of XP to hit Fighter 9->10 as it takes to take Mage 1->10.) and 13 (as Fighter, the bonus +1/2 APR). It might be a bit harder to make it there on SoD.

Technically, a level 9 ex-Fighter dualled into 10 Mage could work, because the XP cap there is 500,000 and that's the amount of XP you need to make it to 250,000 in both of these classes. However, it will likely take you a long while to hit the XP cap that way.

If you don't care for perfectly optimal dualclassing or if you're dualling out of Thief then it matters much less, of course.

The xp cap is 500,000 in Shadow of Amn?

Aotrs Commander
2019-01-01, 10:02 AM
It could work, but generally the most optimal benchmarks for dualling out are level 9 (all the HP of your first class and the XP table being very favorable; it takes the same amount of XP to hit Fighter 9->10 as it takes to take Mage 1->10.) and 13 (as Fighter, the bonus +1/2 APR). It might be a bit harder to make it there on SoD.

Technically, a level 9 ex-Fighter dualled into 10 Mage could work, because the XP cap there is 500,000 and that's the amount of XP you need to make it to 250,000 in both of these classes. However, it will likely take you a long while to hit the XP cap that way.

I did that more than once in BG2 - fighter all the way through 1, then dual-class to mage in 2. (Makes Tenser's Transformation a nasty beast...!)

LibraryOgre
2019-01-01, 10:05 AM
I did that more than once in BG2 - fighter all the way through 1, then dual-class to mage in 2. (Makes Tenser's Transformation a nasty beast...!)

I've considered a few permutations of the good ones... the kensai-> wizard option, the berserker -> druid option (I really wish they allowed barbarian - > druid).

One of my dual-classing issues is that I'm pretty sure that Bard is the perfect protagonist class in pretty much any D&D game, ever.

Winthur
2019-01-01, 10:20 AM
The xp cap is 500,000 in Shadow of Amn?

Nope:

Original BG1 (no TotSC): 89000
Full BG1 (also EE): 161000
SoD: 500000
Amn: 2,950,000
ToB: 8,000,000

Cikomyr
2019-01-01, 11:11 AM
Nope:

Original BG1 (no TotSC): 89000
Full BG1 (also EE): 161000
SoD: 500000
Amn: 2,950,000
ToB: 8,000,000

Damn. Stoopid me, i forgot that SoD is a thing

Winthur
2019-01-01, 04:16 PM
Damn. Stoopid me, i forgot that SoD is a thing

In a thread about SoD, no less! That's honestly just a testament to how forgettable the experience is. :smalltongue:

Wraith
2019-01-01, 05:23 PM
Play through BG1 and SoD to get to level ~8.
Play through Irenicus' Dungeon to get to ~9.
Dual-class.
Have a decent party walk you around Athkatla disarming traps and killing bandits until you're not completely and utterly pathetic - the gladiator arena under the Copper Coronet is pretty good for this, as is the Circus tent.
Complete your first dungeon - Nalia's Castle for preference, even if you cheese the final fight with fireball/Cloudkill spam.

You should now be a 9/9 Dual-Class. You might even be able to skip the last step, depending on your Exp table and how quickly you level up - you can easily be a 7/8 by the end of Irenicus' dungeon, if you aren't worried about perfect optimization. :smalltongue:

Cikomyr
2019-01-01, 08:12 PM
In a thread about SoD, no less! That's honestly just a testament to how forgettable the experience is. :smalltongue:

Actually, its because I my brain saw "So.." and thought "Shadow of.." so it just disregarded the wrong letter.

Mx.Silver
2019-01-02, 02:03 PM
Actually, its because I my brain saw "So.." and thought "Shadow of.." so it just disregarded the wrong letter.

Baldur's Gate: Shadows of Damn.

Wookieetank
2019-01-02, 04:37 PM
Baldur's Gate: Shadows of Damn.

BG: Swindler Offer Deals
BG: Sword of Destiny
BG: Secrets of Darkness

Quick google search later:
Baldur's Gate: Siege of Dragonspear

I like mine better :smallamused:

enderlord99
2019-01-03, 07:57 PM
Like all gamers, I was born knowing acronyms{.}