Does Thaumaturgy let you have advantage with Shadow Blade?

[Citadel97501]

Hello all, I was reading over a post about optimizing Shadow Blade for dpr and I was wondering if you would allow Thaumaturgy to give advantage for a full minute with that spell?

[PhoenixPhyre]

Hello all, I was reading over a post about optimizing Shadow Blade for dpr and I was wondering if you would allow Thaumaturgy to give advantage for a full minute with that spell?

How would that even work? What use of Thaumaturgy would possibly grant that advantage?

[zinycor]

sorry, what?

[Mellack]

I don't see how you can argue that Thaumaturgy would even possibly give you advantage.

[Theodoric]

You mean the 'cause flames to dim' part, and then use the Shadow Blade's advantage-in-dim-light rule? Maybe if there's only one big fire in the room as the only light source. It's creative, but situational.

[Citadel97501]

It seems the author of that thread, was interpreting the following line from Thaumaturgy

• You cause flames to flicker, brighten, dim, or change color for 1 minute.

As allowing you to darken an area for 1 minute, since your likely trying to use the spell in a dungeon IE lit by torches. I was neutral on the idea, but I understood his post to be using it in that manner.

The spell Shadow Blade's relevant line:
• When you attack (implied, with this weapon) in dim light or darkness, you have advantage.

[Merudo]

• You cause flames to flicker, brighten, dim, or change color for 1 minute.


With a range of 30 feet you could conceivably dim every light source near you with 1 casting.

[JakOfAllTirades]

Interesting idea -- dimming the lights wouldn't foul up other members of your party the way a Darkness spell would.

[KorvinStarmast]

Neat Idea, work with the DM.