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Merudo
2019-02-01, 10:52 PM
I've searched through the adventure Tomb of Annihilation and counted the number of times that a given skill is used in an ability check.

Here are my results:



Athletics: 51
Acrobatics: 14
Sleight of Hand: 1
Stealth: 10, plus extra opportunities if moving at slow pace
Arcana: 5
Investigation: 10
History: 4
Nature: 2 + recognize 8 plants/animals
Religion: 6
Animal Handling: 4 + dinosaur race
Insight: 2
Medicine: 4
Perception: 96
Survival: 13 + navigation checks
Deception: 8
Intimidation: 3
Performance: 1
Persuasion: 11


Summary: survival (for navigation checks), perception, and athletics are the most frequently used skills.

Slipperychicken
2019-02-01, 11:43 PM
I like this a lot. This kind of count is a great way to quantify and highlight extreme skill/power imbalance in roleplaying games.

OvisCaedo
2019-02-01, 11:58 PM
I'm actually surprised there were that many investigation checks. I didn't remember running into, like... any. At all. I know there were supposed to be some unfeasibly high investigation checks at the very end for some rune traps, but uh... in my case our entire party was so sick of the campaign at that point that a lot of stuff was just being glossed over to get it over with.

Merudo
2019-02-02, 12:42 AM
I'm actually surprised there were that many investigation checks. I didn't remember running into, like... any.

Yeah, half of them are to identify Glyphs of Warding.

Keravath
2019-02-02, 12:46 AM
I like this a lot. This kind of count is a great way to quantify and highlight extreme skill/power imbalance in roleplaying games.

In this case it isn't an imbalance at all. It is the nature of this campaign in particular.

You are doing a jungle crawl with dungeons scattered here and there. One would expect perception and survival to be very commonly used skills in this type of environment. In addition, given the heavy rains, heavy jungle growth, overgrown temples and dungeons among other physically challenging aspects to encounters ... it is also not surprising that athletics would be among the most common skill checks in this setting.

Marcloure
2019-02-02, 12:52 AM
Are these checks that your group made or the ones explicitly put in the book?

Zaharra
2019-02-02, 08:47 AM
Hey, but at least the bard who put expertise in performance gets a chance to use it, that usually doesn't happen :)

Slipperychicken
2019-02-02, 09:52 AM
In this case it isn't an imbalance at all. It is the nature of this campaign in particular.

You are doing a jungle crawl with dungeons scattered here and there. One would expect perception and survival to be very commonly used skills in this type of environment. In addition, given the heavy rains, heavy jungle growth, overgrown temples and dungeons among other physically challenging aspects to encounters ... it is also not surprising that athletics would be among the most common skill checks in this setting.

I'd be interested in seeing similar counts for other published adventures to see what their counts look like.

Shuruke
2019-02-02, 01:10 PM
I could go through and count strahd, cloud giant strife, and the. Primordial adventure one > EE < can't remember name haven't ran it

Merudo
2019-02-02, 05:07 PM
In this case it isn't an imbalance at all. It is the nature of this campaign in particular.

You are doing a jungle crawl with dungeons scattered here and there. One would expect perception and survival to be very commonly used skills in this type of environment. In addition, given the heavy rains, heavy jungle growth, overgrown temples and dungeons among other physically challenging aspects to encounters ... it is also not surprising that athletics would be among the most common skill checks in this setting.

I'm pretty sure a lot of folks expected the Nature skill and the Medicine skill to be more helpful in Cthul - you know, because it's a land where nature and disease are everywhere.


Are these checks that your group made or the ones explicitly put in the book?

Those put in the book.


I'd be interested in seeing similar counts for other published adventures to see what their counts look like.

I also made a list for Waterdeep: Dragon Heist (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?579691-Dragon-Heist-Most-Common-Skills-for-Ability-Checks).

BloodSnake'sCha
2019-02-03, 06:01 AM
I think you need to add your list to the 5e Notable Threads (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?415822-5e-Notable-Threads&)

follacchioso
2019-02-03, 06:05 AM
Religion is more frequently used than what I thought.