Jack_Simth
2019-02-03, 01:49 PM
Hello all,
So... can an archivist arrange to get spells of unique spell-like abilities from various creatures? My chain of logic goes like this:
Per the Magic Item Basics (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicItems/magicItemBasics.htm):
Prerequisites
Certain requirements must be met in order for a character to create a magic item. These include feats, spells, and miscellaneous requirements such as level, alignment, and race or kind. The prerequisites for creation of an item are given immediately following the item’s caster level.
A spell prerequisite may be provided by a character who has prepared the spell (or who knows the spell, in the case of a sorcerer or bard), or through the use of a spell completion or spell trigger magic item or a spell-like ability that produces the desired spell effect. For each day that passes in the creation process, the creator must expend one spell completion item or one charge from a spell trigger item if either of those objects is used to supply a prerequisite.
It is possible for more than one character to cooperate in the creation of an item, with each participant providing one or more of the prerequisites. In some cases, cooperation may even be necessary.
If two or more characters cooperate to create an item, they must agree among themselves who will be considered the creator for the purpose of determinations where the creator’s level must be known. The character designated as the creator pays the XP required to make the item.
Typically, a list of prerequisites includes one feat and one or more spells (or some other requirement in addition to the feat).
When two spells at the end of a list are separated by "or," one of those spells is required in addition to every other spell mentioned prior to the last two. (Emphasis added)
Per scrolls (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicItems/scrolls.htm):
The spell must be of the correct type (arcane or divine). Arcane spellcasters (wizards, sorcerers, and bards) can only use scrolls containing arcane spells, and divine spellcasters (clerics, druids, paladins, and rangers) can only use scrolls containing divine spells. (The type of scroll a character creates is also determined by his or her class.)(Emphasis added)
An Archivist (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?page=3&x=dnd%2Fex%2F20051007a) gets Scribe Scroll as a bonus feat, and has a nifty clause in the spell list:
An archivist begins play with a prayerbook containing all 0-level cleric spells plus three 1st-level cleric spells of the player's choice. For each point of Intelligence bonus the archivist has, the prayerbook has an additional 1st-level cleric spell. At each new class level, the archivist gains two new cleric spells for his prayerbook; these can be of any spell level or levels that he can cast (based on his new archivist level). At any time, an archivist can also add spells found on scrolls containing divine spells to his prayerbook, but he must make any rolls and spend the time required (see Adding Spells to a Wizard's Spellbook on page 178 of the Player's Handbook). The archivist can learn and thus prepare nonclerical divine spells in this fashion but the two free spells he gains for advancing in class level must be selected from the cleric spell list.(Emphasis added)
So... in theory, an Archivist could cooperate with, say, A Balor (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/demon.htm#balor) to make a divine scroll of the Balor's Summon Demon spell-like ability, then scribe that into his prayerbook, and cast it as a divine spell (9th level, which grants the services of "4d10 dretches, 1d4 hezrous, or one nalfeshnee, glabrezu, marilith, or balor" for an hour...).
Am I missing anything?
So... can an archivist arrange to get spells of unique spell-like abilities from various creatures? My chain of logic goes like this:
Per the Magic Item Basics (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicItems/magicItemBasics.htm):
Prerequisites
Certain requirements must be met in order for a character to create a magic item. These include feats, spells, and miscellaneous requirements such as level, alignment, and race or kind. The prerequisites for creation of an item are given immediately following the item’s caster level.
A spell prerequisite may be provided by a character who has prepared the spell (or who knows the spell, in the case of a sorcerer or bard), or through the use of a spell completion or spell trigger magic item or a spell-like ability that produces the desired spell effect. For each day that passes in the creation process, the creator must expend one spell completion item or one charge from a spell trigger item if either of those objects is used to supply a prerequisite.
It is possible for more than one character to cooperate in the creation of an item, with each participant providing one or more of the prerequisites. In some cases, cooperation may even be necessary.
If two or more characters cooperate to create an item, they must agree among themselves who will be considered the creator for the purpose of determinations where the creator’s level must be known. The character designated as the creator pays the XP required to make the item.
Typically, a list of prerequisites includes one feat and one or more spells (or some other requirement in addition to the feat).
When two spells at the end of a list are separated by "or," one of those spells is required in addition to every other spell mentioned prior to the last two. (Emphasis added)
Per scrolls (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicItems/scrolls.htm):
The spell must be of the correct type (arcane or divine). Arcane spellcasters (wizards, sorcerers, and bards) can only use scrolls containing arcane spells, and divine spellcasters (clerics, druids, paladins, and rangers) can only use scrolls containing divine spells. (The type of scroll a character creates is also determined by his or her class.)(Emphasis added)
An Archivist (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?page=3&x=dnd%2Fex%2F20051007a) gets Scribe Scroll as a bonus feat, and has a nifty clause in the spell list:
An archivist begins play with a prayerbook containing all 0-level cleric spells plus three 1st-level cleric spells of the player's choice. For each point of Intelligence bonus the archivist has, the prayerbook has an additional 1st-level cleric spell. At each new class level, the archivist gains two new cleric spells for his prayerbook; these can be of any spell level or levels that he can cast (based on his new archivist level). At any time, an archivist can also add spells found on scrolls containing divine spells to his prayerbook, but he must make any rolls and spend the time required (see Adding Spells to a Wizard's Spellbook on page 178 of the Player's Handbook). The archivist can learn and thus prepare nonclerical divine spells in this fashion but the two free spells he gains for advancing in class level must be selected from the cleric spell list.(Emphasis added)
So... in theory, an Archivist could cooperate with, say, A Balor (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/demon.htm#balor) to make a divine scroll of the Balor's Summon Demon spell-like ability, then scribe that into his prayerbook, and cast it as a divine spell (9th level, which grants the services of "4d10 dretches, 1d4 hezrous, or one nalfeshnee, glabrezu, marilith, or balor" for an hour...).
Am I missing anything?