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bean illus
2019-03-23, 01:34 PM
Minimum entry requirements, any nonlawful, must be good or chaotic, elf or half elf friendly, arcane prefered but divine acceptable.
The need is Wildrunner entry, so extra points for hide, move silently, or know nature as class skills.

I have geomancer.
PRO: though the req know nature 6 is a cross class skill, it fills WR req kn nat 5. Two good saves.
CON: does nothing else except give survival and +1 level casting.

So, no real problem, because geomancer will work. But I am wondering If there are slightly better options.

Darrin
2019-03-23, 02:58 PM
Ruathar (Races of the Wild).

Also maybe try:

Deep Diviner (FR Underdark).
Harper Paragon (PGtF).
Hathran (PGtF).
Sentinel of Bharrai (BoED).
Verminkeeper (FR Underdark).

Thurbane
2019-03-23, 03:12 PM
Ruathar (RotW) has pretty easy reqs, and is definitely elf-friendly.

4 skill points/level, and has all the skills required for Wildrunner.

Bphill561
2019-03-23, 03:48 PM
This thread might be helpful. It uses other types of resources (feats, alternative class features, etc.) to get class skills.

http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?451088-Alternative-ways-to-get-new-Class-skills

I could have sworn the Mystic Wanderer had survival on it's list, but unfortunately I was wrong.

Maat Mons
2019-03-23, 05:11 PM
Have you decided on what base class you'll be using? A Cleric of Sehanine Moonbow can easily get the Knowledge (Nature) and Survival skills by taking the Knowledge and Travel domains. Or a Wizard could use the Domain Granted Power ACF to pick up the Travel domain and gain Survival as a class skill.

You could use one of the +0 LA lesser drow variants. That would qualify you for Drow Paragon, which gives +1 Cleric or Wizard casting, and has all the relevant class skills.

bean illus
2019-03-23, 09:43 PM
Thank you, all.

Troacctid
2019-03-23, 10:11 PM
The list of spellcasting prestige classes in my signature can be filtered by class skills. Here are the ones that advance casting at 1st level and have Survival as a class skill.



Prestige Class
Source


Aberrant Paragon
D332


Arachnomancer
DrU


Arachnomancer of Vulkoor
DrU


Arcane Hierophant
RW


Arvoreen's Keeper
D321


Bane of Infidels
MW


Battle Howler of Gruumsh
D311


Battlepriest of Cormyr
D307


Cave Stalker
D292


Darkmask
LD


Darkwater Knight
D314


Deathstalker of Bhaal
D322


Deep Diviner
Und


Divine Disciple
PG


Drow Paragon
UA (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/races/racialParagonClasses.htm#drowParagon)


Durthan
Una


Dwarven Chanter
Web (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/prc/20061128a)


Earthshaker
D314


Elemental Archon
FP


Faith Scion
UA (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/magic/legendaryWeapons.htm#theFaithScion)


Fochlucan Lyrist
CAd (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ex/20050107a&page=2)


Forest Master
FP


Geomancer
CD


Gray Sage
D298


Green Hunter
D294


Green Whisperer
D311


Halfling Whistler
Web (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/prc/20061121a)


Harper Paragon
PG


Harper Priest
Mag


Hathran
PG


Hexer
MW


Holt Warden
CC


Knight of the Blue Moon
CSW


Lion of Talisid
BE (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ex/20031004b)


Master of the North Wind
D314


Master of the Yuirwood
Una


Moon Drover of Cormyr
D307


Moonspeaker
RE


Moonstar Agent
CSW


Planar Shepherd
FE


Ruathar
RW


Seeker of the Misty Isle
CD


Sentinel of Bharrai
BE


Serpent Slayer
SK


Silverstar
D285


Silverwood Arcanist
Web (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/re/20031209a)


Singer of Concordance
RDr


Skypledged
RW


Stalker of Kharash
BE


Stonespeaker Guardian
RS


Stormlord
CD


Stormsinger
Fr


Sword Dancer
FP


Talontar Blightlord
Una


Thrall of Demogorgon
BV/D357


Vermin Keeper
Und


Visonary Seeker
PlH


Waveservant
FP


Windwalker
FP


Zhentarim Skymage
LD

bean illus
2019-03-24, 08:17 AM
I couldn't figure out how to filter results. Maybe because I'm on a phone?

If i could i would sort them by ecl also. Current goal is under 7, or guving more than 4 skills.

Can they be filtered by alignment, and race?

EDIT: faith scion is confusing. What level can swift scion be taken for 1 level dip by an medium size character? But the dm has to give you a one of a kind bow?

Troacctid
2019-03-24, 11:25 AM
I couldn't figure out how to filter results. Maybe because I'm on a phone?
That'll be the reason, yes. The mobile version doesn't support filters AFAIK.


If i could i would sort them by ecl also. Current goal is under 7, or guving more than 4 skills.

Can they be filtered by alignment, and race?
ECL yes, alignment yes, race not really (it's lumped in with "Other").


EDIT: faith scion is confusing. What level can swift scion be taken for 1 level dip by an medium size character? But the dm has to give you a one of a kind bow?
They're sort of prototypes for Weapons of Legacy. The DM is supposed to customize the class to fit whatever weapon they've created for it. Nightphantom is the example given in the text; talk to your DM if you want to use a different version of the class.

bean illus
2019-03-24, 12:32 PM
I'm thinking of taking Seeker of the Misty Isle instead. Same problem with cross class survival 8, so still ecl 14, but skills are smoother (so i can afford concentration, and possibly drop Int from 14 to 12).
Plus, sotmi gives travel devotion and all martial weapons, light and med armor.

The real work is over here, if you could possibly (re)visit this thread.
http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?583884-What-s-you-re-favorite-solution-to-Favored-Soul-Sorcerer-Mystic-Theurge