Wizard Theoretical Build Idea

[tstewt1921]

I had an idea for a character, and Wizard may not be the best route to go, and this would be a nightmare possibly for the DM, but a character that focuses around the stat damaging spells, such as Ray of Idiocy, Clumsiness, Fatigue etc. Along with having buffs for the party, I would prefer no evocation, or as little as possible.

No specific level requirement I was just theorizing a character and how it could possibly work.

I think I would need focus in Abjuration/Conjuration/Necromancy/Transmutation, I could probably nix Conjuration or Abjuration....I definitely think I need Necro/Trans.

Are there any prestige classes that excel at this other than doing the master specialist/incantrix style build.

Also stuff without saves preferred for the spells.

Basically the idea is to weaken the enemy team while making mine better.

Sorry for the rambling, thanks for the advice.

[TalonOfAnathrax]

I had an idea for a character, and Wizard may not be the best route to go, and this would be a nightmare possibly for the DM, but a character that focuses around the stat damaging spells, such as Ray of Idiocy, Clumsiness, Fatigue etc. Along with having buffs for the party, I would prefer no evocation, or as little as possible.

No specific level requirement I was just theorizing a character and how it could possibly work.

I think I would need focus in Abjuration/Conjuration/Necromancy/Transmutation, I could probably nix Conjuration or Abjuration....I definitely think I need Necro/Trans.

Are there any prestige classes that excel at this other than doing the master specialist/incantrix style build.

Also stuff without saves preferred for the spells.

Basically the idea is to weaken the enemy team while making mine better.

Sorry for the rambling, thanks for the advice.

Yeah, what you want is a Necromancer. I'd suggest Dread Necromancer if you don't mind the focus, because its base chassis is good at lower levels.

I'd also suggest using poison if possible (and being immune to it yourself, by playing a Necropolitan or something similar).

At lower levels this often isn't great, but it becomes increasingly awesome as you level up. Meanwhile poison is the opposite: great at low levels, weaker as you level up. Take both and enjoy !

[tstewt1921]

Yeah, what you want is a Necromancer. I'd suggest Dread Necromancer if you don't mind the focus, because its base chassis is good at lower levels.

I'd also suggest using poison if possible (and being immune to it yourself, by playing a Necropolitan or something similar).

At lower levels this often isn't great, but it becomes increasingly awesome as you level up. Meanwhile poison is the opposite: great at low levels, weaker as you level up. Take both and enjoy !

So the issue with the necromancer is I lose the buffing aspect unless I'm buffing my undead that I'm able to create.

[noob]

Shadowcraft mage abusing shadow miracle to cast level 8 spells before level 15?(generalist or domain wizard)

[Eldariel]

I had an idea for a character, and Wizard may not be the best route to go, and this would be a nightmare possibly for the DM, but a character that focuses around the stat damaging spells, such as Ray of Idiocy, Clumsiness, Fatigue etc. Along with having buffs for the party, I would prefer no evocation, or as little as possible.

No specific level requirement I was just theorizing a character and how it could possibly work.

I think I would need focus in Abjuration/Conjuration/Necromancy/Transmutation, I could probably nix Conjuration or Abjuration....I definitely think I need Necro/Trans.

Are there any prestige classes that excel at this other than doing the master specialist/incantrix style build.

Also stuff without saves preferred for the spells.

Basically the idea is to weaken the enemy team while making mine better.

Sorry for the rambling, thanks for the advice.

Honestly, a basic God Wizard can do this more or less. You don't really need PRCs though stuff like Fatespinner [CArc], Spellwarp Sniper [CScoundrel], etc. seems like it would slot in rather well. War Weaver [Heroes of Battle] would highlight the buffing part (with or without Spellguard of Silverymoon). You can ban Evocation, Enchantment and Abjuration if you go Focused Specialist, or just Evocation and Enchantment otherwise. Then just focus on the Necromancy/Conjuration/Illusion debuffs (there's even some in Divination), Transmutation/Illusion/[Abjuration] buffs (and well, there are some in all schools) and go from there.

Honestly, the typical battlefield control (Grease/Glitterdust/Web/Pyrotechnics/Stinking Cloud/etc.) fits in just fine here too in the debuff angle and even complements the debuff Rays great (you can nuke someone's dex real hard with like Empowered Ray of Clumsiness + Web or make someone pretty much unable to take actions with Stinking Cloud + Grease).


Metamagic goes really nicely with the level 1 debuff Rays btw, so a class focused on metamagic might not be a bad choice though. Empower Spell for example makes the Str/Dex debuff Rays absolutely brutal (basically no-save loses for certain enemy types; taking average 12 points of Strength damage is enough to make armored enemies collapse under the weight of their equipment for example, and losing 12 points of Dex makes ranged enemies unable to hit a barndoor while nuking their AC, initiative and key combat skills like Tumble and Balance).

[Anthrowhale]

This isn't exactly what you are looking for, but a sorcerer with Versatile Spellcaster and one of the Fell {Frighten,Drain} feats may also be worth considering.