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Draconi Redfir
2019-04-10, 10:15 PM
So! I'm starting a new 1-15 campaign, and i want to make a Caberjack from MASSIVE CHALICE as my character.

Here is what a Caber looks like (https://www.mobygames.com/images/promo/original/1473429681-3237254554.jpg)

This is what they can do (https://massivechalice.gamepedia.com/Caberjack)

And sometimes they can do These things (https://massivechalice.gamepedia.com/Shadowjack)and these things (https://massivechalice.gamepedia.com/Blastcapper)

Race: Human

Ability Scores: 16, 18, 13, 12, 13, 10, have not been assigned yet.

Goal is to be a tanky character, bonus points if it can move enemies around the battlefeild with each attack.

Possible Caber options: Either a great-club that's just re-flavored to be wielded sideways, or possible an Orc Skull Ram (https://www.d20pfsrd.com/equipment/weapons/weapon-descriptions/orc-ram/) with the "haft bash" weapon trick to help me hit in 5ft as well as reach

DM says i can avoid the "Orc" requirement, but i will still need Exotic Weapon Proficiency.

Any thoughts or suggestions?

Kurald Galain
2019-04-11, 04:39 AM
Well, you clearly want the Pushing Assault feat, then.

I'd suggest a druid build with an oversized club and the Shillelagh spell; that's massive damage on your club. Bonus points for Vital Strike and probably a one-level barbarian dip to hit even harder. (edit) multiple targets? Cleave would work.

Draconi Redfir
2019-04-11, 11:40 AM
pushing assault definitely seems doable in a level or two.

currently my character is as follows:

Fighter (No archetype yet)

Str 16 (18 with the +2 human bonus)
Dex 13,
Con 18,
Int 13,
Wis 12,
cha 10.

Weilding an orc skull ram for 1d10 damage

feats are exotic weapon profficency for the skull ram,
weapon trick haft-bash to use the ram as a club in melee (ram is normally reach)
and weapon focus: skull ram as a prerequisite for the haft-bash.

also took the "Bred for War" trait for a +1 CMB

not sure about the druid thing, mainly due to lack of full BAB.

Rynjin
2019-04-11, 03:36 PM
Do you have to be a human? A Half-Orc would get proficiency for free.

Then you just play a Barbarian and you're good to go. Maybe take Improved Bull Rush, and if you want to be the "Blastcapper" roll with either Spirit Totem (fluffed as bees) or Hive Totem.

Draconi Redfir
2019-04-11, 04:35 PM
human-only setting unfortionately, no choices there.

but ehh, it's kind of the same thing since i get the bonus feat. not getting the other half-orc racials granted, but i'm still getting the proficiency all the same.

Geddy2112
2019-04-12, 10:22 AM
I second barbarian;you should consider titan mauler (https://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/barbarian/archetypes/paizo-barbarian-archetypes/titan-mauler/)over fighter so you can wield an even more massive weapon. You can still dip fighter (and even titan fighter (https://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/fighter/archetypes/paizo-fighter-archetypes/titan-fighter)), as a lot of barbarians tend to do at the beginning of their career for heavy armor and a bonus feat.

Power attack, furious focus, pushing assault, and maybe even coragun smash are your feats once you get your weapon trick online(although you are probably fine without it for a little while).

Draconi Redfir
2019-04-12, 11:31 AM
levels in titan mauler barbarian look promising, could see myself taking those after another level or two of fighter. Titan Fighter Fighter i'm less sure about. Wielding a larger weapon with that archetype would replace my fighter bonus feat, which means i wouldn't be able to use my Caber to attack enemies in melee, only in reach.

not entirely sure if a larger sized weapon is entirely neccicary other then for extra damage. already wielding a 1d10 battering ram pretty much... Suppose a BIGGER battering ram couldn't hurt:smalltongue:

upho
2019-04-13, 06:47 AM
A barb with Pushing Assault also combines nicely with the Unexpected Strike (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/barbarian/rage-powers/paizo-rage-powers/unexpected-strike-ex) rage power and Combat Reflexes (and rage-cycling), so that the Pushing Assault movement also provokes (note that the AoO happens before the actual movement), giving you an extra full bab attack or two per turn.

Draconi Redfir
2019-04-18, 06:23 PM
Would any of these Barbarian-related suggestions NOT work if i took levels in Bloodrager instead? Thinking i might like to take one of the Bloodrager bloodlines for character background reasons.

upho
2019-04-19, 05:38 AM
Would any of these Barbarian-related suggestions NOT work if i took levels in Bloodrager instead? Thinking i might like to take one of the Bloodrager bloodlines for character background reasons.They would work great with Primalist bloodrager levels, and most likely make you a more competent adventurer than barb levels. Note also that you want Internal Fortitude (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/barbarian/rage-powers/paizo-rage-powers/internal-fortitude-ex/) and a flawed Scarlet and Green Cabochon (https://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/wondrous-items/h-l/ioun-stones/scarlet-and-green-cabochon) for rage-cycling, as Unexpected Strike is limited to once per rage.

EDIT: There's no Titan Mauler for the bloodrager though. /EDIT

Draconi Redfir
2019-04-19, 01:05 PM
sounds good then. Might wait awhile on pumping up Charisma. more interested in the bloodline powers then spells anyways.

Any ideas on how to replicate the following abilities?

Rebound: When struck by a melee attack, the attacker is knocked backwards

Log Jam: Slam the caber into the ground to deal damage to all adjacent tiles (so 3x3 grid centered on caberjack)

Blastcapper: Strike a target, and deal explosive damage to targets to either side of the target, and behind those targets. (so effectively a 2x3 area in front of the caberjack. This ability isn't listed under the links for some reason, but it's the base ability Blastcappers can do)