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Severus
2007-10-02, 02:00 AM
So I'm building a Sorcerer, with the intent of moving into the charmer prestige class. The idea is a young elf girl who is incredibly charismatic/charming. emphasis on enchantment spells.

I'm looking for advice. How do you cheese up a sorcerer with an enchantment focus?

The_Werebear
2007-10-02, 02:32 AM
Two things

First, where is the Charmer PRC found? I have never heard of it before.

Second, what levels are you going to be working with?

Kurald Galain
2007-10-02, 03:30 AM
I'm looking for advice. How do you cheese up a sorcerer with an enchantment focus?

For enchantment, primarily you want the saving throw against your spells to be as high as possible. Charisma boosts, spell focus, veil of allure, etc, and perhaps dazzling enchantment for the fun of it.

Improved initiative is probably a very good idea.

Consider playing a wizard instead, for the metamagic and school specialization; if not, consider rapid metamagic, or ditching your familiar for that.

Leon
2007-10-02, 04:59 AM
Ventriloquism + Invisibility/Greater Invisibility = Safe Spellcasting for most Enchantment and illusion spells

The Sorcerer has the inherant advantage over a wizard in regard to social skills, given the base casting stat is shared with the Skills stat.

Dausuul
2007-10-02, 07:28 AM
So I'm building a Sorcerer, with the intent of moving into the charmer prestige class. The idea is a young elf girl who is incredibly charismatic/charming. emphasis on enchantment spells.

I'm looking for advice. How do you cheese up a sorcerer with an enchantment focus?

Kurald Galain has already listed the major save DC boosters, but I'll toss out another useful item: Concealed Casting, a skill trick from Complete Scoundrel. It's very handy to be able to cast a charm person spell without anyone noticing. Although you'd have to find a way to get Sleight of Hand as a class skill in order to do it effectively; if it's worth a feat to you, pick up Skill Knowledge (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/buildingCharacters/alternativeSkillSystems.htm#skillKnowledge).

Of course, you could also just learn Still Spell and Silent Spell.

Kaelik
2007-10-02, 01:18 PM
Ventriloquism + Invisibility/Greater Invisibility = Safe Spellcasting for most Enchantment and illusion spells

The Sorcerer has the inherant advantage over a wizard in regard to social skills, given the base casting stat is shared with the Skills stat.

And a Specialist Enchanter using UA variants has the advantage of all the social skills as class skills and the skill points to actually put them in there. If Sorcerers had more skill points they might be able to compete, but as is you'd have to choose between concentration, spellcraft, and Knowledge (Arcana) (if you are lucky) or Bluff, Intimidate, Diplomacy.

Specialist Enchanter can get all six no problem, which makes it much easier to grab one level of Mindbender on your way to whatever PrC you are getting. (And Master Specialist before that.)

Mike_G
2007-10-02, 01:50 PM
Beguiler already gets all the social skill, more skill points, and most of the enchantment spells, plus DC boosting and SR penetration class features.

Keep the spontaneous casting, get all the good stuff. Sure, you won't have access to all the spells a Sorcerer does, but with UMD as a class skill, that/s not so bad.

Frosty
2007-10-02, 03:02 PM
Seriously. When you want a sorcerer who specializes in enchantments...go Beguiler. And where is this Charmer Prc from?

BardicDuelist
2007-10-02, 03:09 PM
Yes, I agree with those who say go Beguiler. It is much better for what you are looking for.

ocato
2007-10-02, 03:19 PM
Magic blooded, +2 CHA -2 WIS, no LA adjustment. Adds to any race.