Monster Manuel
2019-04-23, 10:52 AM
Hi, all.
From looking through the Captain Cantrip thread from earlier, I was putting together a cantrip-heavy caster as an intellectual exercise, and realized that I'm not clear on how all this works.
Let's say, for sake of example, that I'm building a variant human Sorc 1/War 3/Clr 16.
*note: I know there are multifarious reasons NOT to do it this way. Just bear with me*
So, calculating spell slots, the Warlock levels don't count towards the total, but you add the levels in Sorc and Clr together (because both are full casters) and compare to the multiclass spell slot table. This would put the character at level 17 spell slots. This gives our example guy a 9th level slot. They only get to learn the spells of a lvl 1 sorcerer, but they could upcast any of their 1st level sorcerer spells all the way as high as that 9th level slot. Right so far?
What gets me is how to address the cleric levels and spells. My initial understanding is that the 20th level character, who is also a 16th level cleric, could only prepare up to 8th level spells off of the cleric spell list because that's all the cleric levels they have (with the ability to upcast something into that 9th level slot).
Re-reading the rules about how a cleric prepares spells, though, I'm not sure that's the case. The cleric description of how to prepare your cleric spells says "The spells must be for levels in which you have spell slots". It never says that your level limits the Cleric spells you can prepare, just the slots.
So, now I'm thinking that Exemplar the Impractical COULD prepare a 9th level cleric spell. He does have a 9th level spell slot, and it doesn't say anywhere that the slot has to come from the cleric class (I don't see how it could, since the multiclass rules don't make a distinction about the source of the spell slots, you just have 'em). It's different for casters that have to Learn spells (sorc, bard, ranger), but for classes that prepare from the entire spell list, it seems to me that they can prepare anything up to their highest multiclass slot.
Is this right? Is there an errata that I'm missing that clarifies/fixes this?
Let me know what your experience with this has been.
Thanks,
From looking through the Captain Cantrip thread from earlier, I was putting together a cantrip-heavy caster as an intellectual exercise, and realized that I'm not clear on how all this works.
Let's say, for sake of example, that I'm building a variant human Sorc 1/War 3/Clr 16.
*note: I know there are multifarious reasons NOT to do it this way. Just bear with me*
So, calculating spell slots, the Warlock levels don't count towards the total, but you add the levels in Sorc and Clr together (because both are full casters) and compare to the multiclass spell slot table. This would put the character at level 17 spell slots. This gives our example guy a 9th level slot. They only get to learn the spells of a lvl 1 sorcerer, but they could upcast any of their 1st level sorcerer spells all the way as high as that 9th level slot. Right so far?
What gets me is how to address the cleric levels and spells. My initial understanding is that the 20th level character, who is also a 16th level cleric, could only prepare up to 8th level spells off of the cleric spell list because that's all the cleric levels they have (with the ability to upcast something into that 9th level slot).
Re-reading the rules about how a cleric prepares spells, though, I'm not sure that's the case. The cleric description of how to prepare your cleric spells says "The spells must be for levels in which you have spell slots". It never says that your level limits the Cleric spells you can prepare, just the slots.
So, now I'm thinking that Exemplar the Impractical COULD prepare a 9th level cleric spell. He does have a 9th level spell slot, and it doesn't say anywhere that the slot has to come from the cleric class (I don't see how it could, since the multiclass rules don't make a distinction about the source of the spell slots, you just have 'em). It's different for casters that have to Learn spells (sorc, bard, ranger), but for classes that prepare from the entire spell list, it seems to me that they can prepare anything up to their highest multiclass slot.
Is this right? Is there an errata that I'm missing that clarifies/fixes this?
Let me know what your experience with this has been.
Thanks,