Sigdi vs. O-Chul

[MartianInvader]

No, not in a physical fight (unless you think Sigdi stands a chance, in which case I guess we could argue).

The thing is, I've got a Goodometer here by my computer, which measures how Good someone is. And next to it I've got a badassometer. They've always been calibrated to measure in micrO-Chuls.

So far, no one has gone above a million on either device. But after these last few comics, well... Does anyone think Sigdi has surpassed O-Chul, and claimed his #1 title in either Goodness or Badassery?

[Mightymosy]

No, I don't think so. O-Chul has been through some VEEEEEERY serious stuff for a very long time.
Sigdi is tough enough, but in comparison I'd give it to O-Chul right now.
But on the other hand I am glad that Sigdi didn't HAVE to go through the kind of torture O-Chul had to, so there's that. Maybe she could have endured just as well? Good that I don't find out!!

[factotum]

Not really, no. O-Chul spent months being physically tortured and yet never lost his will to survive. As far as we're aware, Sigdi, cool as she is, has never been through the same.

[Wizard_Lizard]

O-chul.
He is a PALADIN.
and hd is tge most badass cool and good person in the ootscerse.
Sigdi is cool and all but doesn't even come close.

[zimmerwald1915]

Not really, no. O-Chul spent months being physically tortured and yet never lost his will to survive. As far as we're aware, Sigdi, cool as she is, has never been through the same.
O-Chul was never dismembered, and also never carried or birthed a child, which is torturous enough. O-Chul also did not give of himself for others, he merely endured torment. Finally, O-Chul seems to have come by his Goodness due to how he was raised, while as far as we know, Sigdi is the way she is purely because of her own will.

[Mightymosy]

Ok, these are good points.

[Peelee]

O-Chul also did not give of himself for others

Isn't a theme of Scar self-sacrifice? "Hurt me instead of that innocent person?"

Also, the childbirth thing can be swingy. I was all prepared for the screaming and the iron vice grip and the hours on end, and then my wife just did breath-breath-splorch and bam! Baby.

[D.One]

No, not in a physical fight (unless you think Sigdi stands a chance, in which case I guess we could argue).

The thing is, I've got a Goodometer here by my computer, which measures how Good someone is. And next to it I've got a badassometer. They've always been calibrated to measure in micrO-Chuls.

So far, no one has gone above a million on either device. But after these last few comics, well... Does anyone think Sigdi has surpassed O-Chul, and claimed his #1 title in either Goodness or Badassery?

And after these considerations, I think it's a fair compromise to call your system of measurement for goodness and badassery The Sidgi/O-Chul Scale.

I've put Sidgi's name first only for the sound of it, not reflecting any considerations about who would be higher on the scale.

[KorvinStarmast]

O-Chul was never dismembered
Sigdi was never dropped in a vat of acid with a shark. *shrug*

, and also never carried or birthed a child
True.

O-Chul also did not give of himself for others
False. See GDGU for details. In fact, his commitment to selfless service is a core part of his personality. He and Sigdi are very similar in that regard, even if they got there via a different route.

Finally, O-Chul seems to have come by his Goodness due to how he was raised, while as far as we know, Sigdi is the way she is purely because of her own will. That's based on a series of bad assumptions.

You make an assumption (with no basis) that Sigdi was not the beneficiary of being raised well, and yet we see that Durkon being raised well, by Sigdi, informs his personality. I find your assumption groundless. I will offer that a more useful assumption is that she was raised well herself, and learned from that.

Sigdi and O'Chul: Kindred Spirits.

[Peelee]

That's based on a series of bad assumptions.

Dammit, I missed a chance to say "assumes facts not in evidence"!

[KorvinStarmast]

Dammit, I missed a chance to say "assumes facts not in evidence"! I should have said that, but didn't. Arrgh. :smallfrown:

[zimmerwald1915]

Dammit, I missed a chance to say "assumes facts not in evidence"!
You still could, as it is in fact KorvinStarmast who assumes facts not in evidence. Prior to seeing O-Chul's family, we could just as easily have said he came by his Goodness by his own will too - but we did see his family, and we know that he credits his "aunt" for his character. We have seen nothing of how Sigdi was raised; she could have emerged fully-formed from the head of Zeus (okay, not OOTS-Zeus, it's an expression) for all we know.

[Grey_Wolf_c]

she could have emerged fully-formed from the head of Zeus (okay, not OOTS-Zeus, it's an expression) for all we know.

"Could have" is a far cry from your original assertion "Sigdi is the way she is purely because of her own will." (emphasis mine)

You don't know that she is that way due to her own will, and thus bringing it up is indeed assuming a fact not in evidence.

Grey Wolf

[D.One]

You still could, as it is in fact KorvinStarmast who assumes facts not in evidence. Prior to seeing O-Chul's family, we could just as easily have said he came by his Goodness by his own will too - but we did see his family, and we know that he credits his "aunt" for his character. We have seen nothing of how Sigdi was raised; she could have emerged fully-formed from the head of Zeus (okay, not OOTS-Zeus, it's an expression) for all we know.

Sidgi was forged from the rocks and metals from the earth.

[KorvinStarmast]

zim: O'Chul's background/childhood/family life is addressed in Good Deeds Gone Unpunished. No assumptions needed.

[The Pilgrim]

O-Chul was never dismembered, and also never carried or birthed a child, which is torturous enough.
Being pregnant and giving birth doesn't necessary makes you a better person.

[Fyraltari]

Zim, you forget that O-Chul was raised by two different families. He chose whose principles to take to heart.


Sidgi was forged from the rocks and metals from the earth.
Sigdi is the eighth dwarf molded by Aulë the Smith.

[zimmerwald1915]

He chose whose principles to take to heart.
The more recent one, who had him for longer, and who got him when he was still young and plastic. That is hardly a free choice.

[HerbieRAI]

I don't think Sidgi is to O-chul's level yet, but that may be due to her low appearance count. O-chul has just been in our view longer. and has another book to demonstrate his goodness and badassery



Also, the childbirth thing can be swingy. I was all prepared for the screaming and the iron vice grip and the hours on end, and then my wife just did breath-breath-splorch and bam! Baby.

I take it your wife isn't on this forum? If she is you are a braver man than I.

[Fyraltari]

The more recent one, who had him for longer, and who got him when he was still young and plastic. That is hardly a free choice.

Because, as we all know, every child end up exactly like their parents raise them to?

[zimmerwald1915]

Because, as we all know, every child end up exactly like their parents raise them to?
Yes, every child ends up exactly how their parents raise them. Maybe not how their parents intended them to end up, but exactly how they were actually raised.

[Peelee]

I take it your wife isn't on this forum? If she is you are a braver man than I.

She's not, but we both joke about that. Easiest childbirth ever.

[Fyraltari]

Yes, every child ends up exactly how their parents raise them. Maybe not how their parents intended them to end up, but exactly how they were actually raised.

Congratulations on admitting that Sigdi ended up exactly as she was raised and had no more choice in this than O-Chul.

[zimmerwald1915]

Congratulations on admitting that Sigdi ended up exactly as she was raised and had no more choice in this than O-Chul.
An acceptable tradeoff for getting you to admit free will is a mirage.

[Fyraltari]

An acceptable tradeoff for getting you to admit free will is a mirage.
Joke’s on you, I’m a compatibilist.

[Peelee]

An acceptable tradeoff for getting you to admit free will is a mirage.

Not much of an accomplishment, since they had no choice in the matter. :smallwink:

[Fyraltari]

Not much of an accomplishment, since they had no choice in the matter. :smallwink:

I and what army?

[Peelee]

I and what army?

National motto of France? I kid, of course.

[Fyraltari]

National motto of France? I kid, of course.

Beats ‘‘In gun we trust’’.
So do I. Also, I know the actual motto is the other one.

[Grey_Wolf_c]

National motto of France?

Beats one taken from a salad recipe.
Yeah, yeah, that's the old one. But the new one is too political
Grey Wolf

[Peelee]

Beats ‘‘In gun we trust’’.

I've never been so offended. It's guns. Plural.

[Fyraltari]

Beats one taken from a salad recipe.
Yeah, yeah, that's the old one. But the new one is too political
Grey Wolf

I learned something today. And it is hilarious.

[Fyraltari]

I've never been so offended. It's guns. Plural.

The singular denotes the concept. I'm not talking about a single object.


Edit: And it sounds better. Fact.

[Peelee]

I learned something today. And it is hilarious.
It's abandonment coincides with the rise in obesity. Coincidence? I think not!

I'm not talking about a single object.
So you use the plural. :smallamused:

[Fyraltari]

So you use the plural. :smallamused:

Have you no concept of poetry!? Of emphasis!? Truly, 'tis is pen who is mightier than sword, not pens and swords.

[Grey_Wolf_c]

Have you no concept of poetry!? Of emphasis!? Truly, 'tis is pen who is mightier than sword, not pens and swords.


The pen is mightier than the sword if the sword is very short, and the pen is very sharp.
I make no apologies

[Peelee]

Have you no concept of poetry!? Of emphasis!? Truly, 'tis is pen who is mightier than sword, not pens and swords.

What?!? A sword can slice right through a pen. Did the Romans equip their legions with pens? Were portraits drawn of Napoleon holding a pen? Are tales told of the pen of Damocles?

I apologize for Grey Wolf

[Fyraltari]

You people try signing a peace agreement with a sword and then we'll talk. :smallbiggrin:

[The Pilgrim]

So, has this thread got derrailed far enough for a Miko debate to spring? Or it is too soon yet?

[Peelee]

You people try signing a peace agreement with a sword and then we'll talk. :smallbiggrin:

Turbines are just a bunch of spinning swords, right (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NPRlHwwVIug)? :smallcool:

[D.One]

You people try signing a peace agreement with a sword and then we'll talk. :smallbiggrin:

Any pen given to Bond by Q will be probably far stronger than any sword he meets... :smallbiggrin:

Edit:

Also, if it's Macgyver with the pen, I bet on the pen 11 out of 10 times. :smalltongue:

[Fyraltari]

Turbines are just a bunch of spinning swords, right (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NPRlHwwVIug)? :smallcool:

That's cool and all, but I don't see what it has to do with the discussion.

[Peelee]

That's cool and all, but I don't see what it has to do with the discussion.

Mal got the agreement using a weapon, was the parallel. He also secures a deal later on with an actual sword, but I like the first joke better.

[D.One]

You people try signing a peace agreement with a sword and then we'll talk. :smallbiggrin:

It may be possible if you are Zorro :smallbiggrin:

[KorvinStarmast]

You people try signing a peace agreement with a sword and then we'll talk. :smallbiggrin: Easy to do. Each signatory pulls out sword, runs finger along blade to draw blood, signs in blood. (Using finger).
No pen required.

We actually did that in a D&D campaign back in the late 70's. The signing in blood was a cultural thing with the dervishes we had been fighting ... so of course one of the guys brought an Exacto knife and we each sliced our hands (What? We Didn't Have MTV! We Made Our Own Fun!!And yes, beer was involved!) and then found out how sloppily we each wrote with a blood tipped index finger.

Ah, college days, it's amazing we survived them ...

[D.One]

Easy to do. Each signatory pulls out sword, runs finger along blade to draw blood, signs in blood. (Using finger).
No pen required.

We actually did that in a D&D campaign back in the late 70's. The signing in blood was a cultural thing with the dervishes we had been fighting ... so of course one of the guys brought an Exacto knife and we each sliced our hands (What? We Didn't Have MTV! We Made Our Own Fun!!And yes, beer was involved!) and then found out how sloppily we each wrote with a blood tipped index finger.

Ah, college days, it's amazing we survived them ...

Your RPG sessions were trully stranger than mines.

[Grey_Wolf_c]

of course one of the guys brought an Exacto knife and we each sliced our hands (What? We Didn't Have MTV! We Made Our Own Fun!!And yes, beer was involved!) and then found out how sloppily we each wrote with a blood tipped index finger.

You also (hopefully) found out none of the guys using the knife before you had a blood-carried disease.

Grey Wolf

[Fyraltari]

Easy to do. Each signatory pulls out sword, runs finger along blade to draw blood, signs in blood. (Using finger).
No pen required.

That's an objectively terrible idea.

[KorvinStarmast]

You also (hopefully) found out none of the guys using the knife before you had a blood-carried disease.

Grey Wolf Nope, none of us did that. This was the 1970's, before AIDS/HIV got a lot of people to be a bit more careful about such things. (I think a few of the guys wiped it on their shirt before it was their turn ... memory foggy)
As it worked out nothing was amiss by chance, certainly not by design.
What do you expect from a bunch of late teen males doing odd and insane stuff that is nuts - as a habit? Lunacy was the norm.


That's an objectively terrible idea. Hah. It seemed like a good idea at the time. Doing it in character (in-characters narrating it rather than players do it IRL) is the better idea, of course, but we were nuts so we acted it out. Guys doing guy stuff.
People now bungie jump, and base jump, and other fun stuff.
Beyond that, it is an objectively bad idea to jump out of a perfectly good aircraft, but people still do that too.
Whatever amuses you.


Your RPG sessions were trully stranger than mines. Yeah. They could turn strange with some rapidity. The most bizarre one involved a few of the guys going out back of the house and smoking some Thai stick ... getting a little odd in the head, and by the time the session was over some of the characters were trying to have an orgy with recently slain undead zombie monsters. Yeah, it was gross to the max.

I don't let things go there anymore. At the time our filters / boundaries were still being formed (to say the least).

[Wizard_Lizard]

So, has this thread got derrailed far enough for a Miko debate to spring? Or it is too soon yet?

Not yet.
We still need to debate star wars.

[dtilque]

Sigdi and O'Chul: Kindred Spirits.

And here I thought the thread was going to endup shipping these two, but instead it took a left turn in Tucumcari.......

[woweedd]

Personally, I think the real question is “what would they say to each other, should they meet?”. I’m picturing them just hanging out in a bar, swapping war stories. Not, like, romantically or anything: just two old soldiers, sharing scars.

[Peelee]

Personally, I think the real question is “what would they say to each other, should they meet”. I’m picturing them just hanging out in a bar, swapping war stories. Not, like, romantically or anything: just two old soldiers, sharing scars.

Sigdi: What's that one, there?
O-Chul: Tattoo. Had it taken off.
Sigdi: Don't tell me. 'Death Before Dishonor.' 'Mother.' 'Semper Fi.' Uhhh... 'Don't Tread on Me.' C'mon, what?
O-Chul: 'Azure City.' 1184.

[D.One]

And here I thought the thread was going to endup shipping these two, but instead it took a left turn in Tucumcari.......

No, please, don't. Just... don't.


The most bizarre one involved a few of the guys going out back of the house and smoking some Thai stick ... getting a little odd in the head, and by the time the session was over some of the characters were trying to have an orgy with recently slain undead zombie monsters. Yeah, it was gross to the max.

Let's just be thankful the game wasn't being played near a graveyard... :smallbiggrin::smalltongue:


So, has this thread got derrailed far enough for a Miko debate to spring? Or it is too soon yet?


Not yet.
We still need to debate star wars.

not yet. And not ever, not here, please...


Sigdi: What's that one, there?
O-Chul: Tattoo. Had it taken off.
Sigdi: Don't tell me. 'Death Before Dishonor.' 'Mother.' 'Semper Fi.' Uhhh... 'Don't Tread on Me.' C'mon, what?
O-Chul: 'Azure City.' 1184.

LOL

[Mightymosy]

Not yet.
We still need to debate star wars.

Now that you mention Miko and Star Wars:
LacunaCaster's avatar looks quite a bit like Miko with a light sabre to me......

(ducks and runs)

[woweedd]

Now that you mention Miko and Star Wars:
LacunaCaster's avatar looks quite a bit like Miko with a light sabre to me......

(ducks and runs)
It is. Some fan art they commissioned.

[CriticalFailure]

How do you think Mike would do as a Jedi?

[Fyraltari]

Mike Skywalker? Is that a cousin of Luke's?

http://memecrunch.com/meme/81AS5/from-my-point-of-view-the-jedi-are-evil/image.jpg

[Peelee]

Mike Skywalker? Is that a cousin of Luke's?

http://memecrunch.com/meme/81AS5/from-my-point-of-view-the-jedi-are-evil/image.jpg

I assumed a different Mike (https://www.google.com/search?q=mike+ehrmantraut&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwioyMyC7f_hAhWIc98KHSdqDDEQ_AUIDigB&biw=1469&bih=708).

[Mightymosy]

How do you think Mike would do as a Jedi?

NOW I know what happened in The Last Jedi.

[Fyraltari]

I assumed a different Mike (https://www.google.com/search?q=mike+ehrmantraut&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwioyMyC7f_hAhWIc98KHSdqDDEQ_AUIDigB&biw=1469&bih=708).

Ah, so Windu, then.

[D.One]

Ah, so Windu, then.

Mike Eymei, the flaming jedi.

(I don't know how you english speakers see this, but it's a common star wars joke beetween brazilian fans to notice that many star wars names sound pretty ridiculous or funny in other languages, to the point of some characters had their names changed in brazilian versions. "Mike Eymei sounds like saying "Burnt myself")

[Grey_Wolf_c]

many star wars names sound pretty ridiculous or funny in other languages

They sound pretty ridiculous in English as well, TBH.

Grey Wolf

[Vinyadan]

What?!? A sword can slice right through a pen. Did the Romans equip their legions with pens? Were portraits drawn of Napoleon holding a pen? Are tales told of the pen of Damocles?

I apologize for Grey Wolf

Caesar once fought 23 daggers with a single pen! And guess what? At the end of it, they had to run away!

[D.One]

Caesar once fought 23 daggers with a single pen! And guess what? At the end of it, they had to run away!

Anyone who's seen or read Saint Seiya: The Lost Canvas know how much damage a paint-brush (the object, not the program) can do.

[terodil]

They sound pretty ridiculous in English as well, TBH.
It may just be an effect of my socialisation, but English names being left untranslated in dubs/translations makes them significantly less offensive to my ears than they would be if they did get translated. I just fell out of my chair when today's dinner entertainment, an episode of Family Guy, had 'Deep Blue' translated. I was honestly stumped for a few seconds until I realised that they meant the supercomputer.

In SWTOR, there was a precious situation where you are tasked with destroying the opposing faction's bunker. Codename: "Operation Sunshower." Your character misses a beat, then remarks: 'You Alderaanians are entirely too cheerful.'

Edit: OMG. I hope nobody saw that typo. :smalleek:

[Grey_Wolf_c]

It may just be an effect of my socialisation, but English names being left untranslated in dubs/translations makes them significantly less offensive to my ears than they would be if they did get translated.

That has been my general experience as well. English names in fantasy sound silly when you think about them, but when translated to my mother language, they are silly immediately.

Grey Wolf

[terodil]

I never really thought of it this way, but I really feel sorry for native speakers now. :smallfrown:

[D.One]

What I was talking about was less "the Guy who walks in the Sky" or "The Guy who is Alone", and more like "This names sounds like straight up cursing" when said out loud in portuguese. I can't really show a full example here without risk of infringing rules about cursing, so I'll refrain from doing so, but if you want, the Wookieepedia adresses the situation of Count Dooku in Brazil...

[Peelee]

What I was talking about was less "the Guy who walks in the Sky" or "The Guy who is Alone", and more like "This names sounds like straight up cursing" when said out loud in portuguese. I can't really show a full example here without risk of infringing rules about cursing, so I'll refrain from doing so, but if you want, the Wookieepedia adresses the situation of Count Dooku in Brazil...

Dooku sounds plenty silly in English. Like a six year old trying to curse.

[D.One]

Dooku sounds plenty silly in English. Like a six year old trying to curse.

Believe me, it gets worse... :smallbiggrin:

In fact, me and my friends, we have a theory that Lucas had an assistant to create names for characters and places in the franchise, and that this assistant is a brazilian who kept hiding - or not quite hiding - pranks in the names, because we know we can be just like that...

Edit: When playing our Star Wars campaign, I believe none of the characters had a name that wasn't a joke or a pun. I, for example, played a Goku-inspired force-sensitive martial artist called Rice Mioji, but even our serious characters have a joky name... :smalltongue:

[Fyraltari]

Dokù is Japanese for poison.

[D.One]

Dokù is Japanese for poison.

I know, but it's portuguese for something else entirely...

[Vinyadan]

I know, but it's portuguese for something else entirely...

I assume that the fact that he was the Count du ... made it even worse :smallbiggrin:

Personally, I see that name as Lucas making a joke about Count Dracula, an old, frequent role for Lee.

[Fyraltari]

I know, but it's portuguese for something else entirely...
I know, and Myazaki should have checked what Laputa meant before making Castle in the Sky.

[Fyraltari]

I assume that the fact that he was the Count du ... made it even worse :smallbiggrin:

Personally, I see that name as Lucas making a joke about Count Dracula, an old, frequent role for Lee.

The count part was definitely a nod to Lee. The Dooku was for poison, just like Palpatine’s name is a mix of palatine (roughly ‘imperial’) and palpitare (to quiver in fear).

[hamishspence]

Myazaki should have checked what Laputa meant before making Castle in the Sky.

Wasn't that more Jonathan Swift's fault for coming up with the name, for a flying kingdom, originally?

[Fyraltari]

Wasn't that more Jonathan Swift's fault for coming up with the name, for a flying kingdom, originally?

Swift did it intentionally as Laputa is a false utopia. Myazaki did not mean that, at all.

[hamishspence]

Swift did it intentionally as Laputa is a false utopia. Myazaki did not mean that, at all.

I thought it was named specifically in homage of Swift's tale?


https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Anime/CastleInTheSky


Inspired by one chapter of Gulliver's Travels, Castle in the Sky is a 1986 fantasy action-adventure tale raised to Studio Ghibli standards.

[Fyraltari]

I thought it was named specifically in homage of Swift's tale?


https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Anime/CastleInTheSky


Inspired by one chapter of Gulliver's Travels, Castle in the Sky is a 1986 fantasy action-adventure tale raised to Studio Ghibli standards.

Indeed, inspired not adapted. Miyazaki’s Laputa is named after but very different from Swift’s Laputa and Swift chose the name (Spanish for ‘the whore’) for a reason. A reason that doesn’t exist in Miyazaki’s story but he did not change the name because he didn’t speak Spanish and did not know what it meant.

[Chronos]

I think that we can all agree that if (for some reason) O-Chul and Sigdi were to fight, O-Chul would win.

But does that make Sigdi less of a badass than him, or more?

The way I see it, sure, it takes bravery for a high-level warrior to charge into a fight that his abilities enable him to win. But it takes a heck of a lot more for a lower-level warrior to charge into a fight that she can't be at all confident about winning.

[Peelee]

I think that we can all agree that if (for some reason) O-Chul and Sigdi were to fight, O-Chul would win.

But does that make Sigdi less of a badass than him, or more?

The way I see it, sure, it takes bravery for a high-level warrior to charge into a fight that his abilities enable him to win. But it takes a heck of a lot more for a lower-level warrior to charge into a fight that she can't be at all confident about winning.

That O-Chul is now the former does not mean he wasn't previously the latter. Heck, he charged an epic-level lich while nearly naked. Pretty sure that counts.:smallwink:

[understatement]

I mean, dude's got villain respect from Xykon, It's like the highest anti-praise ever.

[Wizard_Lizard]

Xykon can't even remember whatshisface's nae!

[Peelee]

Xykon can't even remember whatshisface's nae!

Well, yeah, that's why he fried the guy and the goblin went with Redcloak.:smalltongue:

[a_flemish_guy]

Dooku sounds plenty silly in English. Like a six year old trying to curse.


his sith name is worse, he's called darth tyrannus, I can't think of a name that screams more "bad guy alert" and who calls himself a tyrant willingly (unless you're an autocratic leader in ancient greece of course)

[Fyraltari]

My theory is that those Sith names do not sound evil in Basic, just in real-world tongues.

[Wizard_Lizard]

his sith name is worse, he's called darth tyrannus, I can't think of a name that screams more "bad guy alert" and who calls himself a tyrant willingly (unless you're an autocratic leader in ancient greece of course)

Julius caesars political position was dictator.

[Fyraltari]

Julius caesars political position was dictator.

That means "speaker", nothing ominous about that. It was an emergency, temporary position. Well except for ol' "dictator-for-life" Gaius but pulling that stunt is what gave him his surprise free acupuncture session.

[Wizard_Lizard]

That means "speaker", nothing ominous about that. It was an emergency, temporary position. Well except for ol' "dictator-for-life" Gaius but pulling that stunt is what gave him his surprise free acupuncture session.
and now the meaning of the word has changed.

[Fyraltari]

and now the meaning of the word has changed.

Yeah. So what are you saying?

[Wizard_Lizard]

Yeah. So what are you saying?

Tht maybe in starwarspeak tyranarius or whatever is just a poolitical position?

Or maybe dooku thought it sounded menacing and edgy and chose it for those reasons...

[Fyraltari]

Tht maybe in starwarspeak tyranarius or whatever is just a poolitical position?

Or maybe dooku thought it sounded menacing and edgy and chose it for those reasons...

Tyranus. And you are confusing title and name. Tyranus is the name Sidious gave him not a job description.

So this really has nothing to do with Caesar.

[Peelee]

So this really has nothing to do with Caesar.

Maybe Dooku liked a nice salad.

[Vinyadan]

That means "speaker", nothing ominous about that. It was an emergency, temporary position. Well except for ol' "dictator-for-life" Gaius but pulling that stunt is what gave him his surprise free acupuncture session.

Not exactly, that would be "dictor". "Dictator" means "he who dictates (both meanings of giving orders and talking aloud for someone else to write)" or "prescribes".

EDIT: while we are at it, tyrannos also changed meaning over time. It first meant "lord" or "suzerain", but later took on the meaning of absolute power (a lord who is above the law), and, from there, gained more sinister traits.

[Peelee]

more sinister

It went left?!?

[Fyraltari]

It went left?!?

Hey! No politics! :smallwink:

[Vinyadan]

It went left?!?

Kinda -- Greek tyrants were supported by the lower classes and opposed by the aristocrats.

[Peelee]

Kinda -- Greek tyrants were supported by the lower classes and opposed by the aristocrats.

I was making a Latin joke, not a politics joke.

[MartianInvader]

I was making a Latin joke, not a politics joke.
But what about your obvious implication that children should be forced to learn Latin in school, so they can understand Darth Tyrannosaurus's name?

[Peelee]

But what about your obvious implication that children should be forced to learn Latin in school, so they can understand Darth Tyrannosaurus's name?

Well that's just good sense, it gives a basic grounding to make learning French, Spanish, Italian, etc. easier, as well as grounding for Darth Tryocidine.

[Wizard_Lizard]

Or maybe sinc he is EVIL he chose a nam e that clearly stated his nature o no one could get confused.

[Fyraltari]

But what about your obvious implication that children should be forced to learn Latin in school, so they can understand Darth Tyrannosaurus's name?

Ancient Greek*.

[Wizard_Lizard]

Ancient Greek*.

But they should learn latin too.

[D.One]

But they should learn latin too.

Woof woof. (Its a portuguese joke, because "latin" sounds like "latir", which is the portuguese verb for "bark". To be fair, I should have said "au au")

[Peelee]

Woof woof. (Its a portuguese joke, because "latin" sounds like "latir", which is the portuguese verb for "bark". To be fair, I should have said "au au")

Yeah, that would have been golden.

[D.One]

Yeah, that would have been golden.

Maybe a golden... retriever? :smallbiggrin:

[Peelee]

Maybe a golden... retriever? :smallbiggrin:

Aaaaaaaqand you lost it. :smalltongue:

[D.One]

Aaaaaaaqand you lost it. :smalltongue:

What can I say? I'm just a punny guy... :smalltongue::smallbiggrin:

[Jasdoif]

Aaaaaaaqand you lost it. :smalltongue:Time for a retriever, then. (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/demon.htm#retriever)

[Peelee]

Time for a retriever, then. (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/demon.htm#retriever)

An extraplanar construct, eh? I guess that response was inevitable.

[woweedd]

An extraplanar construct, eh? I guess that response was inevitable.
Ah come on dude, hasn't this gone on long enough? Don't be such a Deva about it!

[Wizard_Lizard]

Ah come on dude, hasn't this gone on long enough? Don't be such a Deva about it!

Insert incredibly funny and relevant joke here.

[woweedd]

Insert incredibly funny and relevant joke here.
Don't you mean...Revenant?

[Wizard_Lizard]

Don't you mean...Revenant?

Face palm.

[Peelee]

Ah come on dude, hasn't this gone on long enough? Don't be such a Deva about it!
You're right. How's about I buy you a drink to make amends. You a fan of djinn and tonic?

Insert incredibly funny and relevant joke here.
Don't mind if I do!

[woweedd]

You're right. How's about I buy you a drink to make amends. You a fan of djinn and tonic?

Don't mind if I do!
Nah, get me a Mained, on the Rocs.

[Fyraltari]

You're right. How's about I buy you a drink to make amends. You a fan of djinn and tonic?

Isn’t that slightly above room temperature water?

[Wizard_Lizard]

Nah, get me a Mained, on the Rocs.

I'll be lion down I am simply too tigred to do anuthing right now.

[Peelee]

Isn’t that slightly above room temperature water?

You wish.

[D.One]

You wish.

Witch witch are you talking about?

[Peelee]

Witch witch are you talking about?

Whichever.

[Wizard_Lizard]

Whichever.

Witch out! I made another pun!

Maybe 4am isnt the best time to engage in a pun duel....

[D.One]

Whichever.

Ow, come on. Hag you not chosen one of them?

[Wizard_Lizard]

Ow, come on. Hag you not chosen one of them?

No I Imagicn that he will choose shortly

[Peelee]

Ow, come on. Hag you not chosen one of them?

The world doesn't exist in black and wight, ya know.

[Wizard_Lizard]

The world doesn't exist in black and wight, ya know.

Unless you live in an old movie.
Maybe one that you watched with your mummy

[D.One]

Unless you live in an old movie.
Maybe one that you watched with your mummy

Those werewolves run through the hills?

[Wizard_Lizard]

Those werewolves run through the hills?
Im sorry, you've lost me on that one.

[D.One]

Im sorry, you've lost me on that one.

No problem, you can always Flind your way back...

(If you really did not understand: "werewolves" vs. "where wolves")

[Jasdoif]

No problem, you can always Flind your way back...Ah yes, the woodling flind that leads to the grassy gnoll.

[jwhouk]

...is this some sort of Tim Conway tribute thread?


(/semi-sarcastic)

[MartianInvader]

Hey look, a thread I started has five pages of replies! I can't wait to see what insightful and relevant comments people have made on this topic!

Oh...

I...

Oh dear God

[factotum]

Oh...

I...

Oh dear God

Is this the bit where you collapse to your knees and cry out "WHAT HAVE I WROUGHT?" ?:smallwink:

[Peelee]

Is this the bit where you collapse to your knees and cry out "WHAT HAVE I WROUGHT?" ?:smallwink:

Oh don't be melodramatic. The phrase to cry when dropping to one's knees is "You maniacs! You blew it up!":smallcool:

[Fyraltari]

Oh don't be melodramatic. The phrase to cry when dropping to one's knees is "You maniacs! You blew it up!":smallcool:

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[D.One]

Oh don't be melodramatic. The phrase to cry when dropping to one's knees is "You maniacs! You blew it up!":smallcool:

To be fair, a thread about Sidgi and O-Chul's badassery is always well intended, but Yugoloth to know we would derail it. :smallwink:

[Peelee]

No

I'm begging you, please spoiler that.

[Kish]

This thread was intended for insightful and relevant comments?

[Fyraltari]

I'm begging you, please spoiler that.

Better now?

Oh, well, a mod did it and gave me a warning.

I deserved that, to be honest.

[D.One]

This thread was intended for insightful and relevant comments?

Maybe for 3 or 4 pages... Everybody knows page 5+ is fair game. :smallbiggrin:

[Wizard_Lizard]

The greenhilt afterlife conundrum thread got derailed pretty much from the start.
Grumble Miko grumble grumble

[D.One]

The greenhilt afterlife conundrum thread got derailed pretty much from the start.
Grumble Miko grumble grumble

Sir, I must say I laugh every time I read the nickname you've chosen. Simply awesome. And them I proceed to say "the lizard wizard cast a blizzard" :smallbiggrin:

[Quartz]

Does anyone think Sigdi has surpassed O-Chul, and claimed his #1 title in either Goodness or Badassery?

No. O-Chul stood up to Redcloak and Xykon. And has considerably influenced the MitD. But you know what? It's a marriage made in heaven!

[KorvinStarmast]

Is this the bit where you collapse to your knees and cry out "WHAT HAVE I WROUGHT?" ?:smallwink: No, it's where you take of your hat, scratch your head, and ask
What have I done? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlvKydE0EVA)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlvKydE0EVA

[Peelee]

No, it's where you take of your hat, scratch your head, and ask
What have I done? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlvKydE0EVA)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlvKydE0EVA

The circle is now complete. When he left Britain, he was but the learner. Now he is the master.

[Ornithologist]

:belkar:"See, now why can't anyone react to my name with wailing lamentations? So unfair."

[Kish]

Maybe for 3 or 4 pages... Everybody knows page 5+ is fair game. :smallbiggrin:
Taking the thread-starting post alone, it already does not strike me as "this is a super serious post which I expect to spark much in-depth discussion."

[Wizard_Lizard]

Sir, I must say I laugh every time I read the nickname you've chosen. Simply awesome. And them I proceed to say "the lizard wizard cast a blizzard" :smallbiggrin:

thanks! I spent ages deciding which pc to name myself after, and then chose none of them. I got the name out of my head and the pc came a week later.