Anthrowhale
2019-05-18, 12:07 PM
I was fooling around and came across the "Tainted Spellcaster" prestige class in Dragon 302 which has this interesting entry:
If a tainted has one of his levels permanently drained or loses a level due to being raised, he can choose to have it be the highest level of the tainted class he has attained regardless of what class level was most recently gained.
That's a minor curiosity until you realize that every piece of text about losing class features through disqualification emphasizes that while you lose class features you retain BAB, Skills, and HD. Hence, even in a situation where prerequisites are checked always and class features are not allowed to qualify for a class, this creates an explicitly legal and reasonably-feasible way to bypass BAB and skill requirements.
For example, a gish could be created via:
Stalwart Battle Sorcerer 3/Tainted Spellcaster 4/Abjurant Champion 3
-> (using raise dead or other means of level loss)
Stalwart Battle Sorcerer 3/Abjurant Champion 3
->
Stalwart Battle Sorcerer 3/Abjurant Champion 5/Sacred Exorcist 1/Prestige Paladin 3/Spellsword 1/Sacred Exorcist 7
You end up with Sorcerer 19 spellcasting and BAB+17, modestly better than the standard Sorcadin with Sorcerer 18 Spellcasting and BAB+16.
In fact, if you are willing to give up on Divine Grace, you can even end up with:
Stalwart Battle Sorcerer 4/Abjurant Champion 5/Sacred Exorcist 8/Ruathar 3
For Sorcerer 20 spellcasting with BAB+16
If a tainted has one of his levels permanently drained or loses a level due to being raised, he can choose to have it be the highest level of the tainted class he has attained regardless of what class level was most recently gained.
That's a minor curiosity until you realize that every piece of text about losing class features through disqualification emphasizes that while you lose class features you retain BAB, Skills, and HD. Hence, even in a situation where prerequisites are checked always and class features are not allowed to qualify for a class, this creates an explicitly legal and reasonably-feasible way to bypass BAB and skill requirements.
For example, a gish could be created via:
Stalwart Battle Sorcerer 3/Tainted Spellcaster 4/Abjurant Champion 3
-> (using raise dead or other means of level loss)
Stalwart Battle Sorcerer 3/Abjurant Champion 3
->
Stalwart Battle Sorcerer 3/Abjurant Champion 5/Sacred Exorcist 1/Prestige Paladin 3/Spellsword 1/Sacred Exorcist 7
You end up with Sorcerer 19 spellcasting and BAB+17, modestly better than the standard Sorcadin with Sorcerer 18 Spellcasting and BAB+16.
In fact, if you are willing to give up on Divine Grace, you can even end up with:
Stalwart Battle Sorcerer 4/Abjurant Champion 5/Sacred Exorcist 8/Ruathar 3
For Sorcerer 20 spellcasting with BAB+16