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Kwinza
2019-05-23, 07:33 AM
This is probably a fair standard but how would you do this build if you got the chance?

Wood Elf - Assassin-7/Gloomstalker-3/Shadow Monk-6/Battle Master-4

Stats - 8, 8, 20, 8, 16, 16

Feats - Sharpshooter

You have a disgustingly high stealth, which you can use almost everywhere. You can teleport while in low light further aiding your stealthy habits.
When you get the drop on an enemy (which you always will) you attack with - 4 longbow attacks, 4 dart attacks, 2 gloom stalker attacks, 4 BM attack mods and sneak attack. All of which crit.

That's 20D8+8D4+8D6+150+any weapon enchantments.

This is the ultimate assassin in both dmg and fun style of play.... But could you do better?

LudicSavant
2019-05-23, 08:02 AM
This is probably a fair standard but how would you do this build if you got the chance?

Wood Elf - Assassin-7/Gloomstalker-3/Shadow Monk-6/Battle Master-4

Stats - 8, 8, 20, 8, 16, 16

Feats - Sharpshooter

You have a disgustingly high stealth, which you can use almost everywhere. You can teleport while in low light further aiding your stealthy habits.
When you get the drop on an enemy (which you always will) you attack with - 4 longbow attacks, 4 dart attacks, 2 gloom stalker attacks, 4 BM attack mods and sneak attack. All of which crit.

That's 20D8+8D4+8D6+150+any weapon enchantments.

This is the ultimate assassin in both dmg and fun style of play.... But could you do better?

A question: How are you getting 4 dart attacks following your longbow/GS attacks?

Kwinza
2019-05-23, 08:19 AM
A question: How are you getting 4 dart attacks following your longbow/GS attacks?

Flurry of Blows can use monks weapons can it not?

LudicSavant
2019-05-23, 08:24 AM
Flurry of Blows can use monks weapons can it not?

Flurry of Blows takes up your bonus action (which you only get one of) and gives you two unarmed attacks.

Kwinza
2019-05-23, 08:50 AM
Flurry of Blows takes up your bonus action (which you only get one of) and gives you two unarmed attacks.

Does action surge not give you a bonus action? In that case change the darts to two punches(as we have more than enough movement to pop in n out after the shots.

So 4d6 not 8d4 in that section. Still big hits lol

trollballz
2019-05-23, 09:14 AM
Does action surge not give you a bonus action?
It does not

So your build would be...
Action - 2 longbow attacks
Action Surge - 2 longbow attacks
Gloomstalker - 2 more longbow attacks, one added to each of the above
Flurry of blows - 2 unarmed attacks
BM Mods - 4 mods
Sneak attack - 1 sneak attack
=6 ranged attacks and 2 melee + mods

I've built a similar character before but I condensed it down to 12 battlemaster / 4 gloom stalker / 4 assassin. That way you get 3 attacks per action, use your bonus action for crossbow master, and get rid of the awkward combination of ranged and melee attacks.

Also dont forget elven accuracy since you are already a wood elf.

LudicSavant
2019-05-23, 09:31 AM
Does action surge not give you a bonus action? It does not. Just an extra Action.


Still big hits lol

It is, though if you're looking for the biggest you can do quite a bit more on Fighter / Ranger / Cleric builds without even using Assassinate.