What would cause this Wish?

[Conradine]

What if a player Wished for:

" I want to became the most powerful overdeity of all multiverses and reality, able to annihilate, recreate and reshape the existent at will".

[timeeater14]

Reply with "Pun-Pun takes an attack of opportunity on you for spellcasting within his reach."

[noob]

The player switch place with the gm and now have to plan for the adventure.

[TheCount]

DM: Congratulation, your wish is fullfilled! Okay guys, see you next session and Conradine, YOU will be the GM for the next adventure, if you need help in anything just call. Sam, pass me the pizza.

well, that or you roll a new character as an overdiety or something kills the character before they finish the sentence.

Edit: damn, ninjaed

Edit no.2: damn double ninjaed, and HOW did i forgot to mention Pun-Pun???

[PersonMan]

Do you mean what the wish would cause? Because my response would be "the spell fizzles, because you asked for something so far above its power level".

If you mean what would make it technically true, without granting it, you could say that the spell transplants the wisher's soul into the current omnipotent over-deity (or similar). The wisher's essence, the core of their self ("I") is now "the most powerful overdeity of all multiverses and reality, able to annihilate, recreate and reshape the existent at will", but everything else is absorbed by the already-existing entity the wisher is merged into.

[TheCount]

or, you know, a tabletop game appers before the character.

[Buufreak]

or, you know, a tabletop game appers before the character.

This. This is the absolute best answer. Break the 4th wall in every way possible, where the character is rewarded with a table, a book of grid paper, a stack of rule books, and a bunch of dice.

[Mike Miller]

This. This is the absolute best answer. Break the 4th wall in every way possible, where the character is rewarded with a table, a book of grid paper, a stack of rule books, and a bunch of dice.

And a group of humans with character sheets and pencils seated at the table

[Biggus]

You shapechange and now look like this:

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[Bronk]

What if a player Wished for:

" I want to became the most powerful overdeity of all multiverses and reality, able to annihilate, recreate and reshape the existent at will".

The PC disappears in a flash of light! They've ascended and no longer care for paltry mortal existences... roll up a new character.

Or...

The PC disappears in a flash of light! They're whisked away by the spell's transportation power and deposited at an angle next to their special doorway on the Infinite Staircase, which they immediately fall through, never to be seen again... roll up a new character.

[Vaern]

PHENOMINAL COSMIC POWER!
...itty bitty living space.

[tyckspoon]

You are stricken by Microcosm. (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/powers/microcosm.htm) For however much longer remains of your life you are convinced your Wish was granted exactly as you meant it as you experience your ultimate power fantasy.

Alternately, nothing happens. The DM informs you that you experience a sudden feeling of relief, as if a great danger just passed you by. That was your one freebie, try not to invite the universe to mess with you so openly next time.

[Psyren]

What if a player Wished for:

" I want to became the most powerful overdeity of all multiverses and reality, able to annihilate, recreate and reshape the existent at will".

Partial fulfillment: "I want to became the most powerful overdeity of all multiverses and reality, able to annihilate, recreate and reshape the existence at will"

Boom, everything's gone :smallbiggrin:

(More seriously, I like the "Microcosm" and "You are the GM" suggestions.)

[JeenLeen]

If this is a spellcaster casting the spell as his level 9 slot (that is, within character ability to replicate again), I recommend a joke (like an RPG set appearing), the spell fizzling, or a sense of strange doom as a warning.

If this is a rare quest award, a Wish extracted from a powerful being, or something else likely not to be replicated, I'd recommend still giving some reward. Sure, the player is taking advantage, but it was meant to be an award of some sort.
Perhaps something like, "For a moment, you feel your consciousness touch something beyond anything you can imagine, and almost feel yourself be washed away in a turret of knowledge of power. But then the spell begins to falter, unable itself to process the power you touch. You are whisked back into your body, and find yourself shuddering. Take Xd10 psychic damage from the shock, but you gain <something like a free Feat, extra skill points, a at-will supernatural/spell-like ability, or a weak 1/day supernatural/spell-like ability> from the power you momentarily touched. You get the sense that trying to such again may bring greater danger."

Scale the Xd10 damage and the boon to the character's level.

[OgresAreCute]

Partial fulfillment: "I want to became the most powerful overdeity of all multiverses and reality, able to annihilate, recreate and reshape the existence at will"

Boom, everything's gone :smallbiggrin:

(More seriously, I like the "Microcosm" and "You are the GM" suggestions.)

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[noob]

The character suddenly figure out that it is a bunch of paper on a table and some patterns in brains(and possibly some 0 and 1 on a computer) and that it can not become more than this information but that it can be granted more resilience if only the player made more backups.
Of course becoming more than that is out of the reach of wish which is just a description too.

[Bronk]

Another couple of possibilities:

The player makes their wish, and in a flash of light, a weird artifact appears in your hands that will do exactly what the player wants... but it doesn't come with instructions.

Or...

They player gets halfway through their wish, and in a flash of light, the local god of magic appears and slaps some sense into them, having been alerted weeks prior via their portfolio sense, preventing the wish from being completed.

[Psyren]

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If this is a spellcaster casting the spell as his level 9 slot (that is, within character ability to replicate again), I recommend a joke (like an RPG set appearing), the spell fizzling, or a sense of strange doom as a warning.

If this is a rare quest award, a Wish extracted from a powerful being, or something else likely not to be replicated, I'd recommend still giving some reward. Sure, the player is taking advantage, but it was meant to be an award of some sort.
Perhaps something like, "For a moment, you feel your consciousness touch something beyond anything you can imagine, and almost feel yourself be washed away in a turret of knowledge of power. But then the spell begins to falter, unable itself to process the power you touch. You are whisked back into your body, and find yourself shuddering. Take Xd10 psychic damage from the shock, but you gain <something like a free Feat, extra skill points, a at-will supernatural/spell-like ability, or a weak 1/day supernatural/spell-like ability> from the power you momentarily touched. You get the sense that trying to such again may bring greater danger."

Scale the Xd10 damage and the boon to the character's level.

Pathfinder actually suggests "tiering" wishes by source like this, in Game Mastery Guide. For example, it suggests that a wish from a personal source like one's own spell slots or a magic item would have more difficulty affecting reality beyond a more local concern, while wishes from outsiders, artifacts, and deities have the potential to make greater changes (though, of course, you'd also have to contend with the whims and attitudes of the creature or artifact (or its creator) granting it. In addition, they recommend granting big wishes (if you choose to do so) gradually - guiding the wisher to providential or improbable events that eventually culminate in the thing they want.

[Braininthejar2]

Microcosm most likely. The wish would fail, but he'd never know

[noob]

Microcosm most likely. The wish would fail, but he'd never know

It is not partial fulfilment: it is an illusion of fulfilment.
Furthermore the player would know near instantly unless the rest of the team was caught in it too and if the rest of the team is in the dream and can not know it then it is no different for anyone involved at the table from the player actually becoming omnipotent within the game world.(the gm have to deal with the silliness due to the party being entirely included in it and the adventuring team can not see the difference)
What could be partial fulfilment could be the retraining of one feat to craft construct.
That or as I described the sudden awareness of being a set of information.

[ekarney]

First of all.
Mystra sees such a powerful spell, and goes "Well I died last time someone tried this".

She says no.

Ao also sees this and realizes that would horrifically upset the universe.

He says double no.

The Omniscificer, having known about this already says no by killing said PC as a child.

All in all, everyone who can say no, does say no, and now the player is minus 5000xp.

[Psyren]

It is not partial fulfilment: it is an illusion of fulfilment.

Actually it's "literal but undesirable" for the microcosm response. He's the overdeity of "reality," but it's not a reality that actually matters.



Furthermore the player would know near instantly unless the rest of the team was caught in it too and if the rest of the team is in the dream and can not know it then it is no different for anyone involved at the table from the player actually becoming omnipotent within the game world.

Well of course the player will know - they'd have to so they can reroll :smalltongue: Wish screws the character, not the player.

[SaintNick]

I'd probably provide the player with an artifact with said power, but don't mention how it's used since the player didn't specifically wish for the knowledge (non-specific wishes are usually the most fun to abuse). I'd write up some hoops the player has to jump through to operate it correctly and create a failure table for when the player screws up, the more outlandish and random the better (mountains turning into barbershop quartets, all color turns into shades of orange, etc.). Make sure it's all written down so there's evidence to back up what's about to happen. I'm sure the following hilarity would be worth the effort.

[noob]

Actually it's "literal but undesirable" for the microcosm response. He's the overdeity of "reality," but it's not a reality that actually matters.



Well of course the player will know - they'd have to so they can reroll :smalltongue: Wish screws the character, not the player.

initial wish


" I want to became the most powerful overdeity of all multiverses and reality, able to annihilate, recreate and reshape the existent at will".
He did not have all multiverses since he does not have the multiverse in which he is included.
Also reality is not the world of dnd nor any sub world of it.

[Edreyn]

He didn't say that after becoming such overdeity he should stay in this form forever. Say something like "You became an overdeity for a brief moment, and for this moment you literally felt existence under your full control. But in a heartbeat, it ended and you are back in your original body, with the experience you can't share with anyone."

[Aotrs Commander]

DM *looks at the player flatly* "Ahahaha, No. Suggest something that silly again, and you'll be getting a Maximised Disintegrate."

Stupid Player: "You can't arbitatrily kill my character like that's it's railroading!"

DM: *magical energy swirling around fingers* "Did I say anything about your character?"

[Malphegor]

" I want to became the most powerful overdeity of all multiverses and reality, able to annihilate, recreate and reshape the existent at will".

Cool.

So, first off, assuming spelling and grammar is fixed in that...

You are now made of God. You are above all other gods in every universe going, of all the multiverse. This of course means you are now going to be hassled. And as any wizard knows, power isn't everything. You are exactly +1 more powerful than all other overdeities...

Everything is at your command, everything is within range of your potential...

Except, um... it isn't.

You reach beyond 21+ divine rank. From the SRD:


Rank 21+
These entities are beyond the ken of mortals and care nothing for worshipers. They do not grant spells, do not answer prayers, and do not respond to queries. If they are known at all, it is to a handful of scholars on the Material Plane. They are called overdeities. In some pantheistic systems, the consent of an overdeity is required to become a god.25


So you automatically do not respond to the material plane, and become practically absent from the world to all intents and purposes.

You're the most powerful, and can, of course, annihalate and reshape and create universes at will... But you've changed yourself to be a part of this very specific category of beings who seemingly do not directly involve themselves in mortal affairs. Your very mind is destroyed, your body and essence reshaped, and now there is only the overdeity you wished into existence. Knowledge and power are it, for it is the power.

And they do not care for such mortal affairs like time or powercreep.

As you pass from this world, you see your lifeless corpse fall, and with a grin, you undo time, and reality warps around the party. Life returns to the person, and a wish is undone-yet-always-was, a paradoxical rejection of the magics through the confirmation of magics.

The universe pulsates with paradox... But ultimately it resolves itself by shaking its fists in the air and screaming "Wizarrrds!!!". There is now possibly an overdeity somewhere that is the player character, or started off as one in a lost timeline. But the player character continues, knowing that there is something in the celestial hierarchy watching them occasionally, something familiar in a more-than-familial way.

[Psyren]

He did not have all multiverses since he does not have the multiverse in which he is included.

Sure he does! He can imagine all manner of multiverses in his microcosm, including the one he's currently in, and be god of all of them.


Also reality is not the world of dnd nor any sub world of it.

By this reading Wish does nothing, because "altering reality" is right at the beginning of the spell description. If nothing in D&D counts as reality, nothing happens.

[Malphegor]

initial wish

He did not have all multiverses since he does not have the multiverse in which he is included.
Also reality is not the world of dnd nor any sub world of it.

While yes this is true, sufficiently similar worlds that resemble Earth and its people are a part of some D&D cosmologies. Faerun for example has a fair whack of its humans be the result of wizards stealing humans from a Earth for slaves!

So this overdeity may have 'a' Earth, but not 'the' Earth.

[Red Fel]

The universe pulsates with paradox... But ultimately it resolves itself by shaking its fists in the air and screaming "Wizarrrds!!!". There is now possibly an overdeity somewhere that is the player character, or started off as one in a lost timeline. But the player character continues, knowing that there is something in the celestial hierarchy watching them occasionally, something familiar in a more-than-familial way.

As much as I love the pettiness of Microcosm - and I do - and as much as I appreciate the honesty of a DM saying, "No, nothing is powerful enough to grant this Wish" - and, again, I do - I think this answer is, narratively speaking, the best.

The wish, as written and as intended, is granted in its entirety. The PC has ascended to become an uber-overdeity. And in his first act, he maintains the stability of reality by pinching off a fraction of a fraction of his essence, plopping it back into a mortal frame at the moment of his apotheosis, and then shuffling off beyond the conceivable cosmos. This tiny mortal mind is granted the bliss of ignorance, the mercy of not knowing the truth of its creation - it simply believes that it is what the PC was a moment before. Or perhaps the PC is aware, if academically, that it now both is and is not a beyond-cosmic being. And if, in dreams or the moments between moments, the PC feels the briefest taste of power or awareness of the great beyond, these phantom sensations are easily dismissed as mere fabrications of the mind.

[Ken Murikumo]

It works... No, it really does...

BUUUT, with all the power comes the necessary knowledge of an overdeity. The knowledge of every timeline, every possible event, and every possible outcome (including the understanding of the infinite multiple cosmos and entropy) rushes into the players mind, destroying it. They never said anything about gaining the will or vessel to take on that mantle. This can lead to a few outcomes:

-their mortal mind is broken but the aspect of the overdeity they become functions as a was mentioned in the other posts about deities. With their mortal mind lost, they have no desire to influence anything the PCs do or will do. Write up a new character.

-Their mind is destroyed leading to the most powerful mad-god in existence. Congrats on creating the new campaign boss. Write up a new character... And good luck!

-Same as above, but the newly formed mad-god acts at random. Any Deus-Ex-Machina that happens from now on (even in the future campaigns) is now simply explained as a mad overdeity doing weird things.

[noob]

It works... No, it really does...

BUUUT, with all the power comes the necessary knowledge of an overdeity. The knowledge of every timeline, every possible event, and every possible outcome (including the understanding of the infinite multiple cosmos and entropy) rushes into the players mind, destroying it. They never said anything about gaining the will or vessel to take on that mantle. This can lead to a few outcomes:

-their mortal mind is broken but the aspect of the overdeity they become functions as a was mentioned above. With their mortal mind lost, they have no desire to influence anything the PCs do or will do. Write up a new character.

-Their mind is destroyed leading to the most power mad-god in existence. Congrats on creating the new campaign boss. Write up a new character... And good luck!

-Same as above, but the newly formed mad-god acts at random. Any Deus-Ex-Machina that happens from now on (even in the future campaigns) is now simply explained as a mad overdeity doing weird things.

-as the knowledge comes to your mind you figure out the meaning of the "everything": the everything you knew was in fact an entire fictional universe centred on your team and by becoming an over-god you might stop being important and thus that your entire "omnipotent" life would have less significance than one more day as a PC
So you use your unlimited power to become a Player Character but you grab this occasion to do some changes if you want(The gameplay effect of that entire wish is just a casting of psychic reformation).

[Remuko]

As much as I love the pettiness of Microcosm - and I do - and as much as I appreciate the honesty of a DM saying, "No, nothing is powerful enough to grant this Wish" - and, again, I do - I think this answer is, narratively speaking, the best.

The wish, as written and as intended, is granted in its entirety. The PC has ascended to become an uber-overdeity. And in his first act, he maintains the stability of reality by pinching off a fraction of a fraction of his essence, plopping it back into a mortal frame at the moment of his apotheosis, and then shuffling off beyond the conceivable cosmos. This tiny mortal mind is granted the bliss of ignorance, the mercy of not knowing the truth of its creation - it simply believes that it is what the PC was a moment before. Or perhaps the PC is aware, if academically, that it now both is and is not a beyond-cosmic being. And if, in dreams or the moments between moments, the PC feels the briefest taste of power or awareness of the great beyond, these phantom sensations are easily dismissed as mere fabrications of the mind.

This. I love the idea Malphegor suggested and Red Fel speaks of here. Its brilliant.

[Madsamurai]

Depends on how you think Wish works. If it is by you petitioning a greater power, then the "it works, but..." approach is fine. My interpretation is that the spell takes the finite power available in a 9th level slot (lets call it 9 mega-sparkles) and attempts to grant your wish as best as it can. If the wish is friendly, then it would respond to the wish by giving you a +1 inherent bonus to your best stat. If it is hostile or uncaring it will microcosm you :D

[One Step Two]

Pretty much what Red Fel said. Let the player create a new Over-Deity for the setting, and his character is a minor avatar to maintain the continuity of his life. That's what I did when I talked my DM into letting my character become a deity through in-game shenanigans, my character got a minor mark to show something had happened, but no change in power in any way.

[RNightstalker]

PHENOMINAL COSMIC POWER!
...itty bitty living space.

This made my day!

[weckar]

First of all.
Mystra sees such a powerful spell, and goes "Well I died last time someone tried this".

She says no.

Ao also sees this and realizes that would horrifically upset the universe.

He says double no.
In the realms, maybe. Elsewhere? It's probably worse.


PHENOMINAL COSMIC POWER!
...itty bitty living space.This is slated to be an appropriate reference for many generations to come.

[Bad Wolf]

An example from the Epic Level Handbook:


For instance, if a character wishes that he be forevermore rendered immune to all damage, the character’s wish is most easily fulfilled if he is instantly eradicated from the multiverse, thus ensuring that nothing can ever hurt him again, now or forever.

Personally, I'd say whatever overdeity is there already comes in and squishes him before he can try to do that.

[gooddragon1]

What if a player Wished for:

" I want to became the most powerful overdeity of all multiverses and reality, able to annihilate, recreate and reshape the existent at will".

"Roll 1d4."

A slip of paper appears that has the following printed on it in gold lettering:

"<Character Name> is now the most powerful overdeity of all multiverses and reality, able to annihilate, recreate and reshape the existent at will."

Along with a,
1- Sapphire
2- Emerald
3- Ruby
4- Diamond

Worth an apparently large amount (24,999 Gp).

===

A one size fits all response. Partial fulfillment. Very partial and somewhat twisted perhaps.

"Looks good on paper, not as good in practice."

If they point out that a diamond would have more utility (if they didn't get one), you may remind them that such a request would have been possible for the spell.

If the request is too long or something,

"<Character Name>'s request was fulfilled."

and the gemstone granted.

The asking to roll a d4 might cause a moment of fear. So you can assure them that it isn't bad if necessary.

[Mordaedil]

Personally, I'd say whatever overdeity is there already comes in and squishes him before he can try to do that.
Hm, would manifesting as a giant foot in the best of Monty Python do or would it just be a giant thumb, crushing the player as an ant while the rest of the party watches on in horror at what transpires?

[Harkness]

Reply with "Pun-Pun takes an attack of opportunity on you for spellcasting within his reach."

Brilliant.