Ironheart
2019-06-11, 12:49 PM
In a home game I’m currently in, we had the opportunity to start with an extra feat (as a reward for taking our previous party to level 20) and I received permission to play VHuman, giving me another feat on top of that feat. In an attempt to not break the game horribly, I decided to take the Skilled and Observant feats at level 1, and I’ve enjoyed having the extra proficiencies to work with so far. Altogether, I have 7 skill proficiencies and 2 tool proficiencies and a passive perception and investigation of 20 currently, with all of it put together.
Another significant boon was that I managed to roll fairly well for stats as well, ending up with:
15+1 STR
14 DEX
16 CON
14 INT
13+2 WIS
7 CHA
Background: Noble Background but instead of the main feature I substituted in Charalatan’s false life feature, and traded out the gaming set for tinker’s tools.
History and Persuasion prof.
Level 1: Defense Fighting Style, Skilled (Perception, Investigation, Smith’s Tools), Observant (+1 WIS), VHuman extra Skill prof. (Animal Handling), all of the other fighter goodies
Level 2: Fighter goodies (AKA I love short rests)
Level 3: Champion Archetype, improved critical
Level 4: Polearm Master Feat
Level 5: Extra Attack (with a polearm, this means I can get 3 attacks a turn)
-Level 6: Prodigy (persuasion expertise, survival, Forgery kit)
Level 7: Remarkable Athlete kicks in- +2 to initiative and other physical checks.
-Level 8: GWM
Level 9: Indomitable, all physical skills and proficient skills improve by +1
-Level 10: GWF
Level 11: Extra Attack (2)
-Level 12: STR +1 / CHA +1
Level 13 Indomitable (2) and, all physical skills and proficient skills improve by +1
-Level 14: Brawny or Perceptive - tops off either strength or wisdom.
Level 15: Superior Critical - helps to make GWM more consistent.
-Level 16: +2 CON
Level 17 Action surge and Indomitable- Nothing else.
Level 18: Survivor - regain 9 HP every turn, up to half
-Level 19: Blade master or Spear Master
Level 20: Have fun lol.
TL;DR: I'm trying to find what build will allow the character to do two things -- Be a single classed Champion Fighter, mostly trying to leverage the Remarkable Athlete feature to the best effect possible, and have something to do in combat other than "I attack 4 times". The easier (and probably more optimal) thing to do would have been to go battle master, but I wanted to challenge myself to use subclasses that I wouldn't think of using.
My party composition, with most of what I can recall about their builds and their relevant attack modifiers:
1. Arcane Archer VHuman who selected Sharpshooter as his extra feat. Dex 18. Fills the ranged striker role.
2. Mountain Dwarf Vengeance Paladin who has a Rage-lite homebrew feat that allows him to rage once a day for a minute, and he has to rage for a full minute, unable to stop. Great RPing stuff. Str 18. Fills the melee damage dealing and emergency healing roles.
3. Stout Halfling Shadow Monk 3/Rouge 2, not sure what they selected for their feat. Dex 20. Occasional debuffer but mostly a melee burst character.
4. Tabaxi Moon Druid with Mobile feat, maker of hilarious cat puns and gourmand extraordinaire. Dex 16 and Wisdom 18. Likes to be the backline, and is tanky enough to hop in when he likes. Typically focuses on casting and healing.
5. Half Elf Assassin Rouge 3/Bard 2, not sure what she took for her feat either. Dex 18. Likes to stay at a distance but almost always gets caught in melee.
Another big theme within the party is that we all have proficiency with tools of some kind or other, and we all craft during our downtime. I was also wondering how I could utilize my own tools (Smith’s and Tinker’s) to prep for combat.
So mainly three questions, after knowing the context of my current build:
1. In the face of three party members who will also have access to some form of Expertise (Prodigy FTW), is it worthwhile to invest ASI’s to try and get more expertise?
2. What are some creative ways I can combine Smiths and Tinkers Tools?
3. What combat build do you recommend focusing on? I’m hoping to make a Batman/Charles Atlas “I work harder and smarter than you” build.
Another significant boon was that I managed to roll fairly well for stats as well, ending up with:
15+1 STR
14 DEX
16 CON
14 INT
13+2 WIS
7 CHA
Background: Noble Background but instead of the main feature I substituted in Charalatan’s false life feature, and traded out the gaming set for tinker’s tools.
History and Persuasion prof.
Level 1: Defense Fighting Style, Skilled (Perception, Investigation, Smith’s Tools), Observant (+1 WIS), VHuman extra Skill prof. (Animal Handling), all of the other fighter goodies
Level 2: Fighter goodies (AKA I love short rests)
Level 3: Champion Archetype, improved critical
Level 4: Polearm Master Feat
Level 5: Extra Attack (with a polearm, this means I can get 3 attacks a turn)
-Level 6: Prodigy (persuasion expertise, survival, Forgery kit)
Level 7: Remarkable Athlete kicks in- +2 to initiative and other physical checks.
-Level 8: GWM
Level 9: Indomitable, all physical skills and proficient skills improve by +1
-Level 10: GWF
Level 11: Extra Attack (2)
-Level 12: STR +1 / CHA +1
Level 13 Indomitable (2) and, all physical skills and proficient skills improve by +1
-Level 14: Brawny or Perceptive - tops off either strength or wisdom.
Level 15: Superior Critical - helps to make GWM more consistent.
-Level 16: +2 CON
Level 17 Action surge and Indomitable- Nothing else.
Level 18: Survivor - regain 9 HP every turn, up to half
-Level 19: Blade master or Spear Master
Level 20: Have fun lol.
TL;DR: I'm trying to find what build will allow the character to do two things -- Be a single classed Champion Fighter, mostly trying to leverage the Remarkable Athlete feature to the best effect possible, and have something to do in combat other than "I attack 4 times". The easier (and probably more optimal) thing to do would have been to go battle master, but I wanted to challenge myself to use subclasses that I wouldn't think of using.
My party composition, with most of what I can recall about their builds and their relevant attack modifiers:
1. Arcane Archer VHuman who selected Sharpshooter as his extra feat. Dex 18. Fills the ranged striker role.
2. Mountain Dwarf Vengeance Paladin who has a Rage-lite homebrew feat that allows him to rage once a day for a minute, and he has to rage for a full minute, unable to stop. Great RPing stuff. Str 18. Fills the melee damage dealing and emergency healing roles.
3. Stout Halfling Shadow Monk 3/Rouge 2, not sure what they selected for their feat. Dex 20. Occasional debuffer but mostly a melee burst character.
4. Tabaxi Moon Druid with Mobile feat, maker of hilarious cat puns and gourmand extraordinaire. Dex 16 and Wisdom 18. Likes to be the backline, and is tanky enough to hop in when he likes. Typically focuses on casting and healing.
5. Half Elf Assassin Rouge 3/Bard 2, not sure what she took for her feat either. Dex 18. Likes to stay at a distance but almost always gets caught in melee.
Another big theme within the party is that we all have proficiency with tools of some kind or other, and we all craft during our downtime. I was also wondering how I could utilize my own tools (Smith’s and Tinker’s) to prep for combat.
So mainly three questions, after knowing the context of my current build:
1. In the face of three party members who will also have access to some form of Expertise (Prodigy FTW), is it worthwhile to invest ASI’s to try and get more expertise?
2. What are some creative ways I can combine Smiths and Tinkers Tools?
3. What combat build do you recommend focusing on? I’m hoping to make a Batman/Charles Atlas “I work harder and smarter than you” build.