Does a Skald / Bloodrager multiclass work at all?

[Draconi Redfir]

awhile ago i tried my hand at making a bard / sorcerer multiclass, and as expected, it didn't turn out too well, so i sadly settled with a Bard with the Eldrich Haritage feat chain. (Grumble grumble no bloodline arcana grumble grumble now i'm feat-starved grumble)


but due to reasons, i might at some point in the future potentially have a character who has a sorcerer bloodline, while also being raised by a bard and some barbarians.

So I've been thinking... Skald and Bloodrager both have barbarian elements in them, Skald has bard, and Bloodrager has Sorcerer... you think a multiclass of those two together would mesh well at all? Would the common barbarian ground help the bard and sorcerer elements sync up better? Has anyone ever tried this?

Mainly talking theory right now, likely not going to be playing this character for a long while.

[Eldonauran]

There are very few benefits to doing this, and some overlap/wasted abilities depending on how you intend to take the levels in each class. If anything, I'd suggest you simply take Bloodrager and then use the variant Multiclass rules to pick up Bard. My wife ran a character just like that in our Strange Aeons game, and she was quite powerful. You really only need Lingering Song to be effective (I suggest Perform[sing]).

With any class that chooses to VMC, I would suggest that you coordinate with another character/player to create a sort of harmonious build between the two of you. I played a Shaman and took Bonded Mind/Share Spells so that I "buff" the Bloodrager with my personal spells (She only had to take Bonded Mind).

What are you trying to get out of the character build? That usually lets us know your goals and help you build towards them.

[Draconi Redfir]

not sure really what i want out of it. with the original bard / sorcerer hybrid i mainly wanted a bard with a sorcerer bloodline, there turned out to be no real way of getting that.

not sure about the variant multiclassing thing. as gain that'll severely limit the number of feats i get.

[Psyren]

The Arcana are special to the bloodline classes (sorcerer and bloodrager) - from my research a dip is the only way to get them.

[Castilonium]

Yes. Here's how: Be a half-orc, trade out your 1st level bloodrager bloodline power for a Bloodline Familiar (https://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/Wizard/familiar/#Bloodline_Familiars), choose the Valet (https://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/wizard/familiar/familiar-archetypes/valet-familiar-archetype/) archetype for your familiar, and get the Amplified Rage (https://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/amplified-rage-teamwork/) feat.

Here's what happens: Your familiar has all of your teamwork feats, so it has Amplified Rage. You use the skald's Inspired Rage to make your familiar rage while adjacent to it. Your familiar gains a total of +6 strength/constitution, and you gain +8 because you're using the base numbers from your bloodrager rage.

[Eldonauran]

not sure really what i want out of it. with the original bard / sorcerer hybrid i mainly wanted a bard with a sorcerer bloodline, there turned out to be no real way of getting that.Yeah, that particular niche was not quite explored in the game. It is a bit vague since there are so many options available with the bloodlines.


not sure about the variant multiclassing thing. as gain that'll severely limit the number of feats i get.Yes, that is quite true. But, to be honest with you, you don't need that many feats to remain effective in the game. If you are playing in a somewhat optimized group, you may feel that you aren't contributing as much as other players (this problem is limited to specific tables rather than the game as a whole), but you will be amplifying their damage rather than just your own. Unless you want to be specifically gifted in one particular area (like intimidation/demoralizing tactics while in combat), you really don't need all of those ten character feats. You will be getting 5 additional feats from your bloodline as a Bloodrager.

[Firebug]

Yes. Here's how: Be a half-orc, trade out your 1st level bloodrager bloodline power for a Bloodline Familiar (https://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/Wizard/familiar/#Bloodline_Familiars), choose the Valet (https://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/wizard/familiar/familiar-archetypes/valet-familiar-archetype/) archetype for your familiar, and get the Amplified Rage (https://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/amplified-rage-teamwork/) feat.

Here's what happens: Your familiar has all of your teamwork feats, so it has Amplified Rage. You use the skald's Inspired Rage to make your familiar rage while adjacent to it. Your familiar gains a total of +6 strength/constitution, and you gain +8 because you're using the base numbers from your bloodrager rage.

I use this on my Skald. I picked the Celestial bloodline because that way the familiar can "heal" at lower levels a couple times. I have a rat familiar in a small cage (familiar satchel). Despite all his rage, he's still just a rat in a cage. My Skald also went Urban, Totemic(Tiger), and Red Tongue for archetypes. Basically I can give anyone in the party up to +8 dex (in a couple levels, 4 morale, 4 enhancement) and everyone should accept, because on your own turn you can turn it off and keep the Morale bonus to dex for a couple more rounds (Community Minded). The Rogue Talent I chose is Combat Trick->Outflank. The rage powers being Guarded Life (and greater), and his actual feats being Ferocious Action (the orc feat to act normally while below zero) and Flagellant (the Zun Kuthon feat to not go unconscious due to non-lethal damage), and the Skald's Vigor Feat to gain the strength bonus (not modifier) your song provides in fast healing. Essentially spend all the adventure in Tiger form and with pounce in a couple levels. Would really love to work in Planar Wildshape, but the soonest I can get it is 13.

[Draconi Redfir]

half-orc wouldn't be possible sadly. this hypothetical bard/sorcerer/barbarian would be the as-of-yet unborn child my Drow. So at best the race would be Drow, though that's only if certain magics can be found that won't screw certain things up. so most likely the kid will be half-drow half-human. Thoughts are currently on the Serpentine bloodline (https://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/sorcerer/bloodlines/bloodlines-from-paizo/serpentine-bloodline/) if it's possible. it is a sorcerer bloodline and not a dedicated bloodrager one so idk.

don't know if bloodragers can pick up sorcerer bloodlines or not.