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Varen_Tai
2019-07-06, 10:30 AM
So I have been playing Skyrim on and off for about 4 years now. I'm not one that makes a ton of characters, I pick a build I like and focus on it.

He was a mage, maxed out on Destruction, Enchantment, Alchemy, Summoning, Smithing, with high skills in all magic and light armor.

I had created armor from dragon scales with double enchantments that allowed me to spam destruction and summoning with virtually no mana cost. Completed a ton of quest lines, lots of magic items, houses, etc.

You get the picture.

I logged in for the first time to play him in about 6 months, and he's just... gone. My stepkids also play Skyrim on my account, so their characters were there, but my mage with tons of hours logged is gone completely. No saved games, no hint that he ever existed.

I get that this happens sometimes, but I don't understand how Steam could lose my character so completely.

*sigh*

I've halfheartedly began a new Stealth Archer (heard these are the best builds, even though I luuurrrrved my mage), but I hate the idea of building all the skills and alchemy reserves and everything back up to where they were.

Just venting to folks who will feel my pain. :smallmad:

The Glyphstone
2019-07-06, 10:40 AM
You mentioned other people have access to your account. Is there any possibility they accidentally deleted your character somehow?

Winthur
2019-07-06, 10:49 AM
You could check for the saves in the Steam Cloud (https://store.steampowered.com/account/remotestorage) or rightclicking on the savegame folder and clicking "Restore Previous Versions".

Varen_Tai
2019-07-06, 01:14 PM
You mentioned other people have access to your account. Is there any possibility they accidentally deleted your character somehow?

Possible, but not likely. They are pretty computer savvy teenagers and they wouldn't have done it on purpose.


You could check for the saves in the Steam Cloud (https://store.steampowered.com/account/remotestorage) or rightclicking on the savegame folder and clicking "Restore Previous Versions".

Oooo, gonna try that right now! Not holding out much hope because I have no clue how long ago he was erased, but it's worth a shot!

LibraryOgre
2019-07-06, 05:28 PM
I've halfheartedly began a new Stealth Archer (heard these are the best builds, even though I luuurrrrved my mage),

Stealth Archers are 100% the best builds for people who like Stealth Archers.

My, I like a Spellsword with a lot of Conjuring. I miss Morrowind and walking around in just clothes, then using a custom spell to summon daedric armor, weapons, and allies.

Spore
2019-07-06, 06:45 PM
I can't find my Argonian Archmage of the College anywhere either. Nor my Orc Berserker. =/

PopeLinus1
2019-07-06, 07:13 PM
I can't find my Argonian Archmage of the College anywhere either. Nor my Orc Berserker. =/

I can't find my Stealth 100 character,

Varen_Tai
2019-07-08, 11:37 AM
Stealth Archers are 100% the best builds for people who like Stealth Archers.

My, I like a Spellsword with a lot of Conjuring. I miss Morrowind and walking around in just clothes, then using a custom spell to summon daedric armor, weapons, and allies.

That is certainly true. I meant I heard that Stealth Archers have the highest DPS, though I certainly didn't care about that when I made my Destruction and Conjuring spamming mage. :smallbiggrin:


I can't find my Stealth 100 character,

:elan:

I haven't had a chance to test the saved files I found yet due to a wedding and a child running away (safely found!) all in the last few days, I'll keep everyone posted in the next couple of days if it worked!

Winthur
2019-07-08, 12:16 PM
I haven't had a chance to test the saved files I found
Oh hey, my suggestion worked? :smallbiggrin: Well, hopefully you didn't lose (much) progress anyway. I think that if the saves are corrupt you can still potentially fix them somehow. (https://steamcommunity.com/app/72850/discussions/0/846944689808402353/?l=polish)

Varen_Tai
2019-07-08, 07:49 PM
Oh hey, my suggestion worked? :smallbiggrin: Well, hopefully you didn't lose (much) progress anyway. I think that if the saves are corrupt you can still potentially fix them somehow. (https://steamcommunity.com/app/72850/discussions/0/846944689808402353/?l=polish)

Yay, this totally worked! My wizard has returned and just took down an elder dragon without breaking a sweat. It's nice to be back. Two dremora lords, Serana, and my follower, plus lightning storm that barely costs me any mana. It's a beautiful sight. :smallbiggrin:

Now, I need to find Barbas again - I lost him somewhere and didn't finish his quest. He's handy to have along - the more indestructibly immortal followers, the merrier!

Destro_Yersul
2019-07-09, 01:42 AM
Was it in a cave? Broken Oar Grotto? There's a known bug where followers can get stuck in there.

Varen_Tai
2019-07-09, 02:40 PM
Was it in a cave? Broken Oar Grotto? There's a known bug where followers can get stuck in there.

It has literally been over 2 years since I lost him. I have no idea where I left him else I'd be able to go there and get him back. ;)

Rodin
2019-07-09, 02:49 PM
It has literally been over 2 years since I lost him. I have no idea where I left him else I'd be able to go there and get him back. ;)

And now I'm imagining your follower just sitting in a cave as the seasons pass and "I Will Wait For You" plays in the background.

Varen_Tai
2019-07-09, 03:21 PM
And now I'm imagining your follower just sitting in a cave as the seasons pass and "I Will Wait For You" plays in the background.

LOL!

And since Barbas looks like this:

https://elderscrolls.fandom.com/wiki/Barbas_(Skyrim)?file=Barbas.png

I can also imagine he's sitting there thinking, "He told me to stay! So I am staying! Who's a good boy? WHO'S A GOOD BOY? I am! I'm a good boy! Yes, I am! I can't wait until he comes back! He'll tell me I'm a good boy!"

:elan:

EDIT: Why did the picture not show up? I put this link in the proper brackets.

https://elderscrolls.fandom.com/wiki/Barbas_(Skyrim)?file=Barbas.png

KillianHawkeye
2019-07-09, 03:30 PM
You need to use the image's real URL, not the wiki page's picture viewer of the image.

Like this:
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/elderscrolls/images/d/df/Barbas.png

Destro_Yersul
2019-07-09, 08:22 PM
It has literally been over 2 years since I lost him. I have no idea where I left him else I'd be able to go there and get him back. ;)

Check Broken Oar Grotto first, if you have it on your map. It's North of Solitude, I think. Don't take any current followers inside.

Mikemical
2019-07-18, 09:32 AM
It doesn't matter what you build, everyone eventually becomes a Stealth Archer in Skyrim.

My Orc Barbarian that used Destruction + Rage to double his DPS because Skyrim's code is funny like that? Stealth Archer.
My High Elf Necromancer that was on his way to becoming a powerful Lich? Stealth Archer.
My full plate-wearing, vampire-hunting, sword-n-board Redguard? Stealth Archer.
My Khajiit monk that gave everyone facial reconstructive surgery with his bare knuckles? Stealth Archer.

It's quite jarring when the only way to actually progress in the game seems to funnel down to "crouch, hide, and pick off enemies one by one".

LibraryOgre
2019-07-18, 11:23 AM
It doesn't matter what you build, everyone eventually becomes a Stealth Archer in Skyrim.

My Orc Barbarian that used Destruction + Rage to double his DPS because Skyrim's code is funny like that? Stealth Archer.
My High Elf Necromancer that was on his way to becoming a powerful Lich? Stealth Archer.
My full plate-wearing, vampire-hunting, sword-n-board Redguard? Stealth Archer.
My Khajiit monk that gave everyone facial reconstructive surgery with his bare knuckles? Stealth Archer.

It's quite jarring when the only way to actually progress in the game seems to funnel down to "crouch, hide, and pick off enemies one by one".

The only time I am a stealth archer is when I am sneaking out of Helgen and run into the bear. Then I shoot the bear with poison.

Winthur
2019-07-18, 11:26 AM
It's quite jarring when the only way to actually progress in the game seems to funnel down to "crouch, hide, and pick off enemies one by one".
Maybe to you, but Skyrim isn't that hard.

veti
2019-07-18, 07:48 PM
It's quite jarring when the only way to actually progress in the game seems to funnel down to "crouch, hide, and pick off enemies one by one".

While there is some truth in that, there are more ways than one of picking off your enemies. For instance, Illusion is a very fun way of whittling your enemies down to one, then you can finish off the last one with your choice of means.

I find my characters are mostly defined by what skills they avoid. It's completely possible to never use a bow at all. Or stealth for that matter.

Lord Raziere
2019-07-19, 02:44 AM
While there is some truth in that, there are more ways than one of picking off your enemies. For instance, Illusion is a very fun way of whittling your enemies down to one, then you can finish off the last one with your choice of means.

I find my characters are mostly defined by what skills they avoid. It's completely possible to never use a bow at all. Or stealth for that matter.

Dude, I have modded Skyrim with Smilodon and Ordinator put in mods that put in hax enemies to have even harder fights, charge into every battle with a one-handed weapon while being a vampire in light armor, or fight with no armor, or go full unarmed and unarmored and I STILL win most of my fights and get through the game without that much trouble. even my stealth characters are melee ones who slit throats. while my only "archer" is a dwemer automatic crossbow wielder charging into battle in a full suit of dwarf armor killing people like a sci-fi super soldier in an FPS, they're not stealthy at all. most playthroughs I just sell all my bows because they're so slow they're useless to me.

I'm kind of convinced all you people playing stealth archers are cowards. :smalltongue:

Rodin
2019-07-19, 02:56 AM
It is possible to screw yourself lategame by the usual Elder Scrolls "picked the wrong the stats to level". My first character was a cutthroat thief and I had to finish the game never alerting an enemy. If I didn't one-hit backstab kill and the alarm went off, I could not take any enemy that faced me. I wound up sneaking through the entire final dungeon and only beat Alduin by save scumming.

I always wind up as a stealth archer for a different reason. I love sniping, and I love stealth gameplay. So every character starts out as a noble attempt to be something else, but I inevitably wind up sniping from the shadows.

Spore
2019-07-19, 05:07 AM
It is possible to screw yourself lategame by the usual Elder Scrolls "picked the wrong the stats to level". My first character was a cutthroat thief and I had to finish the game never alerting an enemy. If I didn't one-hit backstab kill and the alarm went off, I could not take any enemy that faced me. I wound up sneaking through the entire final dungeon and only beat Alduin by save scumming.

I know that feeling. 8/10 of my thieves are hopelessly lost when I do a few hours of stealing, lock picking and sneaking because suddenly bandits hit like a truck and have nearly infinite HP.

I am always in complete awe how good Mercer is with his two blades when I finished up the thieves' guild though he should just be decent at attacking (and life leech), he is always one of the harder obstacles in the games. But I have yet to play a thief character without save scumming.

veti
2019-07-20, 12:46 AM
I'm kind of convinced all you people playing stealth archers are cowards. :smalltongue:

You say that like it's a bad thing. From where I sit, it's just common sense to avoid getting hurt if you can.

Lord Raziere
2019-07-20, 12:50 AM
You say that like it's a bad thing. From where I sit, it's just common sense to avoid getting hurt if you can.

yeah in real life.

but you can action hero your way through all of skyrim without much problem. why bother with common sense in a fantasy any more than you need to?

Kaptin Keen
2019-07-23, 02:20 AM
yeah in real life.

but you can action hero your way through all of skyrim without much problem. why bother with common sense in a fantasy any more than you need to?

If all you care about is efficiency, I'm sure someone can easily code a mod to play the game for you. Ultimate efficiency: Beat the game while watching the Gilmore Girls reruns.

I can't speak for everyone else, but I have fun sneaking about, shooting enemies in the eye from 100 paces, and watching them run about like headless chickens trying to figure out what happened. I think having fun is an allowable component of playing games.

veti
2019-07-23, 02:43 AM
yeah in real life.

but you can action hero your way through all of skyrim without much problem. why bother with common sense in a fantasy any more than you need to?
I have a specialllevel of contempt for action heroes who make a habit of charging barefaced at the enemy armed with nothing but a twenty year old loincloth and a maniacal gurn. Nothing breaks my suspension of disbelief faster than a "hero" who's so confident of his own superiority, he doesn't even try for tactical advantage.

I want to play a hero. Not an idiot.

Lord Raziere
2019-07-23, 08:18 AM
I have a specialllevel of contempt for action heroes who make a habit of charging barefaced at the enemy armed with nothing but a twenty year old loincloth and a maniacal gurn. Nothing breaks my suspension of disbelief faster than a "hero" who's so confident of his own superiority, he doesn't even try for tactical advantage.

I want to play a hero. Not an idiot.

And nothing is more boring than a hero who faces no danger at all because they hide and never get hurt. well have to agree to disagree, especially since such tactical disregard is a matter of relative degree for what kind of combat you want to portray.

Winthur
2019-07-23, 08:56 AM
I like how veti and Kaptin Keen are questioning the logic and the intent behind Lord Raziere's preferred playstyle while justifying their opinion with "some people just like to have fun" and "willing suspension of disbelief", yet the whole discussion arose from the idea that Skyrim is somehow insurmountably hard to progress in if you don't play it safe from stealth and distance.

All the guy seems to say is that Skyrim would be really boring if that were really the case and every playthrough defaulted to stealth archer, or if everyone's sensibilities on what is fun or whether realism is important had to be the same.

DragonMF
2019-07-23, 08:58 AM
I also think that stealth archer is what you always become xD
At least in my case that is how I usually would end up

Lord Raziere
2019-07-23, 10:28 AM
I like how veti and Kaptin Keen are questioning the logic and the intent behind Lord Raziere's preferred playstyle while justifying their opinion with "some people just like to have fun" and "willing suspension of disbelief", yet the whole discussion arose from the idea that Skyrim is somehow insurmountably hard to progress in if you don't play it safe from stealth and distance.

All the guy seems to say is that Skyrim would be really boring if that were really the case and every playthrough defaulted to stealth archer, or if everyone's sensibilities on what is fun or whether realism is important had to be the same.

Hey, my first character in OG Skyrim, was a Breton in light armor who wield a sword in one hand and magic in the other, she got to level 40 something. my first Special edition character, is an orc, has heavy armor, two-hander, became a vampire, is level 60 something. my third character, is a pure mage build, wields staff of magnus, wears Morokei and archmages robes, knows lots of spells, also a vampire. they are currently level 45 (though admittedly after not playing the mage one for a while, there seems to be some problems adapting to my current mods when I logged on to them last night, but they were always squishy so I think its just a matter of finagling up some better defense through Shenanigans™). but these latter two characters are also when I start modding the heck out of skyrim se, so.....these next characters are even more modded than that:
-Naneko Uchiha, my level 33 or so Uchiha race sword and magic user who exclusively uses spells, armor and weapons and sharigan abilities from two naruto mods. generally whenever I encounter something incredibly powerful I can't beat normally with chidori, Tsukuyomi or black fire takes care of it.

-Tessha the time-traveling dwemer, a heavily armored crossbow and laser gun user who rides a motorcycle, has aetherial staff and crown, and four robot companions to help her kill things. no stealth at all and seems to be near-immune to magic. about level 22 ish.

-a bunch of others that I haven't played as much and most don't reach beyond level 10, but are there. highlights include recreations of Sans and Bowsette, an angel, a demon, a half-dragon werewolf, and one race that is designed to look and play like an actual anime character even more than the uchiha one (which still looks a skyrim human it just has different mechanics), no I do not know how my suspension of disbelief survives the contrast between skyrim human and anime human interacting either and I don't care.

all I'm saying is that I never had to go full stealth archer ever, and I've had fun with it. and perhaps that involves a lot of modifying the game to make sure what I want is made viable or more viable. and sure maybe you can say thats not really legit if your modifying it so much that it doesn't resemble ordinary skyrim at all. but me? if I have to modify it so much to make sure that more than just one build is viable and the result of the modifications is more fun? well, that tells me all I need to know about how fun base skyrim really is, at least to me. I'm sure you can all have fun playing hide-and-snipe for the hundredth time for your own reasons, I'm just saying that my experiences has not shown me that hide sniper is inevitable.

DragonMF
2019-07-23, 11:31 AM
-Tessha the time-traveling dwemer, a heavily armored crossbow and laser gun user who rides a motorcycle, has aetherial staff and crown, and four robot companions to help her kill things. no stealth at all and seems to be near-immune to magic. about level 22 ish

Whoa whoa whoa there. Riding a mf motorcycle??! Can you please link me that mod?? And thank you.

Also I agree that it is not inevitable that you become a sharpshooter in Skyrim

windgate
2019-07-23, 12:02 PM
It has literally been over 2 years since I lost him. I have no idea where I left him else I'd be able to go there and get him back. ;)


There is a console code (for PC) that will teleport you to him.

press the "`" button

type in (the spacing is important)

player.moveto 00052535



Save first though, if barbas is dead you get trapped somewhere weird.....

Lord Raziere
2019-07-23, 01:31 PM
Whoa whoa whoa there. Riding a mf motorcycle??! Can you please link me that mod?? And thank you.

Also I agree that it is not inevitable that you become a sharpshooter in Skyrim

behold:
dwarven motorcycle mod (https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/22673)

It also allows you to drive a tricycle, a tractor, and cars to, but I haven't driven those yet and stick to the motorcycle. it also comes with a dwemer mistress for a follower thats looks like a draugr. can't do anything about that.

also while the motorcycle mods works, it has constant gear sounds around it that sometimes swap for horse sounds randomly as a bug, this can either be a good or bad thing depending on whether you like hearing Dwemer ruin clockwork.sfx running in the background of your cool motorcycle ride or dislike your bike suddenly neighing more and ruining the immersion of being on a dwemer bike. but hey at least its faster than riding a horse.

Varen_Tai
2019-08-28, 09:33 PM
But why do stealth archery when you can just spam super Destruction magic backed up by two Dremora Lords, Serena, whoever is following you at the time, and Shadowmere (who can take a whole load of damage and keep going)?

I love my mage.:elan: