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ayvango
2019-08-01, 03:10 AM
Well, the name itself suggests that you should be drow to take the option. But I could not explicit requirement. Same goes for weapon styles from the Drow of Underdark book. Should the character belong to House Eilservs to utilize eilserves school style?

DrMotives
2019-08-01, 03:49 AM
The racial AFCs don't say you must be a drow, although that seems very odd, as other racial ACFs specify you must be part of the race named. But by RAW in that book, it's not stated. DMs call, really.

The weapon style feat is much more clear. There is only one feat in that whole chapter that has "Drow" as a listed requirement; it's not one of the weapon style feats. The fluff for the weapon feats all state "You have learned House __'s fighting techniques" or words to that effect. So, while being a drow makes learning those easier, it's not required. Any way you can explain a character having learned that style should be ok. Does the house teach non-drow warriors to fight for them in their style? Do drow who learn these techniques sometimes turn traitor, and teach outsiders? Does a skilled warrior pick them up on their own by observing drow warriors fight? I don't see why not.

Zaq
2019-08-01, 04:19 AM
It’s an ACF, not a racial sub level. If it had a racial prereq, it would so state.

Celestia
2019-08-01, 06:57 AM
It does not, which is why I more commonly see it referred to as "hit-and-run fighter."

Rebel7284
2019-08-01, 07:45 AM
As others specified, nothing mechanical about this (great) ACF requires you to be a drow. However, the flavor and name heavily imply that the drow most commonly learn this techniques over other races, so it would be good to have a reason in your backstory about how you were exposed to this fighting technique as a non-drow.

Celestia
2019-08-01, 09:16 AM
As others specified, nothing mechanical about this (great) ACF requires you to be a drow. However, the flavor and name heavily imply that the drow most commonly learn this techniques over other races, so it would be good to have a reason in your backstory about how you were exposed to this fighting technique as a non-drow.
I really don't see why. It's not like hit-and-run tactics are somehow unique or rare. Guerrilla warfare has been present in literally every culture in history. When writing a story set in our world, there's no requirement to explain that your skirmisher character specifically learned how to do so from the Vietcong, and there's no requirement for your D&D character to specifically learn it from the drow. That would be silly.

Efrate
2019-08-01, 11:21 AM
If it is a known style used by drow depending on drows place in your world it could lead to a few raised eyebrows with the more seasoned soldiers who have fought drow. Might be an interesting nettle in a characters arc. No reason it could not be used by a non drow however.

Rebel7284
2019-08-01, 12:08 PM
I really don't see why. It's not like hit-and-run tactics are somehow unique or rare. Guerrilla warfare has been present in literally every culture in history. When writing a story set in our world, there's no requirement to explain that your skirmisher character specifically learned how to do so from the Vietcong, and there's no requirement for your D&D character to specifically learn it from the drow. That would be silly.

While that is true, if the real life character was using techniques specifically known as "Vietcong tactics" as someone not from the area, your readers may have some questions. Even if the answer is indeed "same tactics, different culture"

Celestia
2019-08-01, 12:24 PM
While that is true, if the real life character was using techniques specifically known as "Vietcong tactics" as someone not from the area, your readers may have some questions. Even if the answer is indeed "same tactics, different culture"
If something works, it makes perfect sense that it would spread, and other people would adopt it. In fact, that's exactly how it's happened all throughout history. It's not an unusual occurrence.