akashic bind question

[astrerouge]

Hello all,

I've recently began looking at akashic mysteries for pathfinder and I have a question
so basically, class say they get a bind progression like this :At 2nd level and every two levels thereafter, the nexus gains the ability to bind veils directly to her chakra, unlocking potent new abilities. The nexus gains the ability to bind slots in the following order: Hands, Feet, Head, Wrists, Shoulders, Headband, Neck, Belt, Chest, and Body.

And there are feats to open a specific chakra that are locked behind character level. Usually it wouldn't be a problem for a single class character but in the case of multiclassing an issue arise: let's say you are level 7and chose as feat acces low chakra and chose hand. If you multiclass for nexus (an akashic class), then what happen to the bind progression? Is the first instance lost cause you already have it or does it start higher on the chain?

A similar question arise when you think about multiclassing between veilweaving class: what happens with the bind progression? especially since some classes dont get all of the or at the same frequency

[upho]

Strictly RAW, chakra bind progressions are class specific and unaffected by levels in other classes or the access chakra feats. And for quite good reason, as the progressions aren't uniform across all akashic classes/archetypes. Note that however that unless otherwise noted, the bind abilities themselves aren't class specific, so you certainly can bind any veil you can shape to a chakra you also have the ability to bind to, regardless of whether you gained the veil and bind ability from different sources (classes, feats, race or other options).

So in the case of your multiclassed Nexus example, the access chakra feat would simply become a redundant second instance of the ability to bind to the hands chakra if/when the character gains the 2nd level in nexus. To fix this redundancy, the character would have to retrain the access feat (or in most cases, better simply choose another feat at 7th and delay the bind ability by one level if they're planning on taking a second level of Nexus at 8th).

[Ssalarn]

Strictly RAW, chakra bind progressions are class specific and unaffected by levels in other classes or the access chakra feats. And for quite good reason, as the progressions aren't uniform across all akashic classes/archetypes. Note that however that unless otherwise noted, the bind abilities themselves aren't class specific, so you certainly can bind any veil you can shape to a chakra you also have the ability to bind to, regardless of whether you gained the veil and bind ability from different sources (classes, feats, race or other options).

So in the case of your multiclassed Nexus example, the access chakra feat would simply become a redundant second instance of the ability to bind to the hands chakra if/when the character gains the 2nd level in nexus. To fix this redundancy, the character would have to retrain the access feat (or in most cases, better simply choose another feat at 7th and delay the bind ability by one level if they're planning on taking a second level of Nexus at 8th).

Applies stamp of approval to Upho's post.

Binds are essentially unlocking the next "level of akashic spells"; in much the same way that a wizard/cleric multiclass will lose out on the spell progression of both of their spell lists, an akashic multiclass character will lose out on some of the bind progression provided by their class (though in the case of the akashic character, they have some room to "buy back" some of those levels.) Since veils shaped are also additive between classes, this also means that, much like the wizard/cleric multiclass, part of the benefit you get from sacrificing your class-granted progression through multiclassing is that you have a larger number of unbound veils (essentially lower level akashic "spells") than the single-classed character has. A vizier 1/zodiac (lunar) 1 would have four veils compared to the single-classed vizier 2's three veils with the Hands slot bound.