SZbNAhL's Similarly Sibilant (if unpronouncable) Random Banter #223

[SZbNAhL]

Welcome to the 223rd incarnation of the Random Banter thread. Link-based proof of this assertion is avaliable here:
Amotis' Random Banter #1 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13484)
Dhavaer's Random Banter #2 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13401)
PhoeKun's Random Banter #3 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13319)
Rei Jin's Random Banter #4 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13205)
Toxic Avenger's Random Banter #5 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13146)
Jibar's Random Banter #6 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13026)
Ego Slayer's Surrogate Random Banter #7 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12939)
Sneak's Random Barroom Brawl #8 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12918)
Sophistemon's Solemnly Random Banter #9 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12855)
Vaynor's Very Random Banter #10 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12834)
Bookman's Blathering Random Banter #11 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12809)
Gralamin's Glorious Random Banter #12 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12785)
Rilik's Resplendently Random Raillery #13 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12766)
Gezina's Growling Grazing Random Banter #14 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12747)
The Zerglings Utterly And Geeky Random Banter #15 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12740)
jaqueses Truthfully Randomly Fireside Banter # 16 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12735)
Jack Squat’s Jubilantly Quixotic Random Banter #17 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12693)
Cardel's Banter of Cookie Jubilation #18 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12668)
Archonic's Chaotically Random Banter of Rods #19 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12657)
The Rod's Inanimate Temple of RANDOM banter #20 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12638)
Lucky’s Loquaciously Loud-Mouthed Random Banter#21 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12630)
Deckmaster's Divinely Delightful Random Banter #22 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12614)
Saithis' Soliloquy of Random Banter #23 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12598)
Loveable Lianae's Ludicrous Lampooning Lottery #24 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12578)
NEO|Phyte's Neolithic Nest of Weasel Banter #25 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12544)
Target's Random Banter of "non-violence" #26 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12533)
Tarnag40k's Random banter of "grammar errors" #27 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12515)
Kyrian's Random Banter of ADHDness #28 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12507)
El Jaspero's Random Drunken Ramblings #29 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12503)
Boss Smiley's Eloquently Eggy Banter #30 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12494)
Lykan's Looney Explosionarama & Random Banter #31 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12482)
Iames's Iambic Yarn of Yammering #32 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12468)
Dispozition's Deviously Distressed Banter #33 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12458)
CP's Copiously Combusting Banter of Carnage #34 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12445)
Alarra's Altar of Random Banter #35 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12432)
Eloquent Rune's Electrifying Rambling Banter #36 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12423)
E_P's Very Own Quite Popular Random Banter #37 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12419)
Hydrogelic's Foolish Mortal Random Banter #38 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12413)
Ink's Smudgy Splotchy Random Banter #39 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12405)
Azrael's Big Black Book of Banter #40 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12397)
The Logic Vampire's Rational Random Banter #41 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12387)
Shiny's Shimmering Space-hitchin Random Banter #42 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12376)
ZombieRockStar's Random Banter #43 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12360)
Nostrabel's Realm of Cookies and Random Banter #44 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12342)
Charity's Cheery Chatter Circle #45 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12328)
Samiam's Spontaneous Scintillating Soliloquy #46 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12310)
LLama's Masked Mysterious Random Banter #47 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26599)
Ravishing Rydia's Recumbentibus ^_^ Random Banter #48 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27622)
Penguinizers Perilous Random Banter #49 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28083)
Death's delightfully morbid surrogate random banter #50 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28444)
Wayril's wonderfully weird surrogate random banter #51 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28990)
Rawhide's Deck of Random Banter (52 Cards) (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29697)
Korith's Sorrogate Random Banter of Zombie Killing #53 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30353)
Surrogate thread of random Bor-dom #54 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31109)
Rex Idiotarum's Painfully Pogoing Thread #55 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31512)
The Wrath of KHAAAAAANtalas’s William Shatner Flavored Random Banter # 56 (Surrogate) (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32080)
EmeraldRose's Random Banter of Lashing Wit #57 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32494)
Captain van der Decken's Surrogate Ship of Random Loot (Banter) #58 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32847)
SDF's Neverending I-Don't-Have-an-OotS-Avatar-Yet Story Banter #59 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33465)
Mauril's Surrogate Dwelf Banter of Fantasy Race Confusion 60th Edition (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34165)
Rockphed's Dice Rolling Toga Party of 61 Drunken CIA Analysts (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34568)
var Lord_Magtok = Random(Banter*62) + Surrogate (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34801)
Jibar's Retro Random Banter #63 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35014)
Malina's Random Spanish Banter #64 of morphical annoyance (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35256)
Mr. E's Random Banter #65 of Cane Toting and Hat Tipping (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35418)
Ego Slayer's Hellishly Random Banter #66.6 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35596)
Purple Gelatinous Cube o' Doom's bowl of bantery j-e-ll-o randomness #67 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35859)
Zephra's Random Banter of Ghostly Wailings, and Howling Fun#68 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36317)
Cobra Ikari's Random Banter #69 of Rampant Hugging, Guttermindedness, and ;-) Kinky. (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36977)
Scorpina's Random Banter #70 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37480)
Raistlin1040's Super Special Awesome Random Banter #71(Now with 20% more tacos) (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37824)
Uberblah's Random Banter #72 Of Caffeine And Sleep Deprivation Induced Randomness (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38225)
Lucky’s Random Banter #73 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38987)
Castaras's Random Banter #74 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37836)
D'anna Biers RB #75 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39495)
Zeb The Troll's RB#76 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39801)
Eldpollard's RB #77 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40128)
Gezina's and Calamity's Random banter #78 of double entendre and doom (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40410)
Random Banter #79 In Loving Memory of Hexa_Regina (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40909)
Zeratul's random banter #80 of throwing puppies off bridges (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41778)
Vespe's Random Banter #81 of singing dolphins and mostly harmless planets. (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43254)
CSK's Giant in the Playground Forums Addicted Anonymous, Random Banter #82 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44919)
Iames's Ramblingly Erratic Belldandy-Charged Random Banter #83 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47592)
Serpentine's Scintillating Sensually and Sinuously Seductive Stochastic Satire #84 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49048)
Radikalskippy's Random Banter #85 of lost ideas and where to find them... (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50658)
Moon Called's Random Banter #86 of Sexy Anime Boys and Fangirl Squeals (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51825)
Lilly's Lovely Random Banter #87 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52783)
FdL's Fuzzbox-Fueled Random Banter #88 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54612)
SweetRein's Sugary Restrained Random Banter #89 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=59668)
Midnight's Mutant Motorcycle Madness Random Banter #90 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=62430)
Em's Extremely Extraordinarily Epic Random Banter #91 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=65645)
Dragonrider's Random Banter in Conjunction with the Weighted Cube #92 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67629)
Bushranger's Bodaciously Buffed Random Banter-y Rooster #93 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=69425)
Haruki's Historically Hilarious Honey-covered Random Banter #94 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71161)
North's Maple Syrup Flavored Non-Alliterative Random Banter #95 Eh? (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=73464)
Wadledo's Weirdly Warbling Watercress Watching Washing Machine Only Random Banter #96 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=75946)
SMEE's Random Banter #97 of gender bending and closet bursting (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=78694)
Raiser's Rambunctiously Rambling Random Banter #98 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81626)
Dr. Bath's Random Banter, dripping with daring deeds of dastardly deipnosophists #99 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=84068)
VOTE, the Democracy Demon's Devilishly Devious and Decidedly Diabolical Desultory Derision (Random Banter) #100 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=84914)
Jack Squat's Justlessly Juxtaposed Random Banter #101 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=87577)
Dallas-Dakota's Dundering Dandelion's Devilish Damsel's Distress Random Banter #102 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4790602#post4790602)
Destro Yersul's Dangerously Distracting and Doubtlessly Disturbing Random Banter #103 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4903962#post4903962)
Aziraphales Actually Alliterative and Awesomely Affluent Random Banter #104 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92718)
Cristo's Consistently Confusing and Constantly Casual Random Banter #105 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=94491)
Dish's Delightfully Deranged and Deliciously Deliquent Random Banter # 106 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95905)
Slayer's Seemingly Sweet and Socially Silly Random Banter # 107 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=97703)
Zero's ambrosial and aberrantly adventitious, abstemiously erudite Random Banter #108 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=99100)
Coplantor's Completely Creative Cautious and Contemplative Random Banter #109 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=100414)
Rutskarn's Roly-Poly Rebellious and Rejected Random Banter #110 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=101156)
TwoBitWriter's Tubular Tracts of Thought-Talking Random Banter #111 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5600540#post5600540)
Phase's Phully Phormed, Phalangeal, and Phantasmagorical Random Banter #112 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=101988)
Wolfbane's Wonderfully Wacky and Wildly Wandom Random Banter #113 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=102865)
The Kiwi's Kinkily Knotted and Kookily Kickass Random Banter #114 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=103674)
Jude's Judgmental Jugular Jab and Jibber Jabbery Random Banter #115 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=104480)
The Throne of Thufir's Thoroughly Theoretical and Therapeutic Random Banter #116 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=105584)
Random Banter #117 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=106698)
Dragonprime's Dynamically Dangerous Dextrous and Destructive Random Banter #118 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=107882)
Farmer Felix's Fantastic FRandom FBanter #119 (may contain traces of fnuts) (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=109007)
Groundhog's Random Banter of Weather Prediction and Anti-Gopherness (part one) (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=110963&page=50)
Groundhog's Random Banter of Weather Prediction and Anti-Gopherness (part two) (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=113197)
Mrmud's Mixed-Up and Minimally Mechanized Random Banter #121 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=114623)
Dogmantra's Dastardly, Despotic and Dangerous Random Banter #122 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=116660)
Alteran's Amazingly Anachronistic, Altruistic, and Antagonistic Random Banter #123
(http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=118380)Admiral Euphoria's Random Banter Thread of Delusional Grandeur #124 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=6614894)
Fred's Flying Fishy, Fighting, Fiery, Fantastic Face Off Random Banter #125 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=121385)
Cyrano’s Non-Alliterative Inaugurational Random Banter #126 To Usher In The Future (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=122977)
Thanatos's Tharmturges Present: Tropical, Tipsy, and Typically Random Banter #127
loopy's Legendary and Long-Awaited Lollipop Fuelled Random Banter #128 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=123816)
Shadow's Shady Shop of Sharks, Shingles, Shammies, Shiny and Random Banter #129 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=125667)
KataraAltinaII's Premature Not So Short & To-The-Point Random Banter #130 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126557)
Supagoof's Supa-Sensational Silly Symphonies Set Sizzingly On Fire Random Banter #131 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=128570)
Pyrian's Pyrotechnic Pyre of Pyrrhic Pyros with Pyrotic Pythics Random Banter #132! (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=130459)
Perenelle's Pleasantly Playful and Passionately Peculiar Random Banter #133 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=131814)
Rpgsr4me's Ravenous, Roaring, Raging Rampage of Random Banter #134 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=7373844#post7373844)
Il'deav Ilah'naie's Indiscreet Intimacies on Indigo Iceboats Random Banter #135 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=134438)
Recaiden's Resplendent and Rotating Realistic Random Banter #136 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=136879)
Jibar's Random Banter #137: Return of the Cat-muffin (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=138879)
Edge's Effluence of Extravagant and Effulgent Random Banter #138 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=7876065)
Zeb The Troll's Zecond Go At Ze Random Banter #139 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8061505&postcount=1)
Curly's Rambunctious and Erudite Random Banter #140 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=148462)
Deth Muncher's Destructive and Meandering Random Banter #141 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=150904)
A Thread in Which Banter Most Random is Expulsed Into Existence, By Ravens_cry #142 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8722755)
Several Silly Sealions Stuffed Seaweed Southward Swiftly (Or, Random Banter #143) (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=159998)
The thread that changed name one last time, with style. (Random Banter #144) (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=161407)
Banjo’s Bodacious & Boosted Bumper Bulletproof Box of Banter Most Random #145 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=162819)
Masa's Massively Masterful Message Medium - Random Banter #146 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=164224)
KuReshtin's Vociferously Ruminating Harbinger of Random Banter - #147 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=166664)
Archonic's Archaic Acronymical Antidisestablishmentarianism Random Banter - #148 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=169890)
Skeppio's Splendidly Strange & Superbly Scintillating Random Banter - #149 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=173056)
Teddy's Turbulent and Topicless Random Banter #150 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=175338)
Fifty-Eyed Fred's Ferociously Fanatical and Fabulously Fascinating Random Banter #151 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=178205)
Rae's Really Rascally and Ridiculously Rowdy Random Banter #152 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=181296)
Haruki's Hot n' Holy Random Banter #153 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10176275#post10176275)
MoonCat's Magnificently Mythopoeic Random Banter #154
(http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=187576)Eadin's Exchange of Extraterrestrial Excuses AKA Random Banter #155 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=190034)
Happy HalfTangible's Horrific Hail of Random Banter #156 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10629167#post10629167)
AtlanteanTroll's Atrocious and Terrific Arcade of Terror - RB #157 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=196302)
LaLa’s Laughably Silly Random Banter Thread – RB #158 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=198767)
Zaydos's Zany Zooetic Random Banter - RB #159 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=200208)
Blue's Blessed and Blissful Random Banter - RB #160 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=201653)
Absolmorph's Azoic Arete of Adventitious and Aimless Random Banter - RB 161 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=202546)
Gwyn's Gloriously Green Garrumphing Garter of Garrulous Gabble! Random Banter #162 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=203954)
Eruantion's Euphoric, Elephant-filled Elevated Epoch of Eurhythmic Random Banter #163 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=205487)
ATW's Awesome Androgynous Avaricious Azure Ardent Adamant Alluvial Random Banter #164 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=207269)
Cynical Avocado's Absolutely Admirable Accumulation of Random Bantering #165 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=209860)
August's Pink Plushy and Phantasmagorically Random Banter Thread #166 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=212011)
Heliomance's Everchanging Thread Title Random Banter #167 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=213053)
Tragic_Comedian's Tremendously Tropical Random Banter #168 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=215180)
Qwertystop's Quickly Quilted, Quip-filled Random Banter #169 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=217326)
Thufir's Thupremely Thatithfying Thecond Random Banter With a Lithp #170
(http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=219654)Feytalist's Fantastically Freakish First Random Banter #171 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=222713)
Dragonprime's Dashing Delight-fu Dazzling Dualistic Random Banter #172
Castaras' Random Banter #173: Bringing back your nostalgic Great Old Ones (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=229164)
Pokemon-freak89's Random Banter number eleventy-twelve... uhh... I mean... number 174 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=231235)
Dark Elf Bard's Random Banter #175:Playin' Underdark Jazz since the Drow went dark. (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=235950)
Mutant Sheep's Post Septaquintaquinquecentennial ApRiL fOoLs Random Banter: #176 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=238117)
Elemental's Excitingly Excellent Random Banter: No.CLXXVII (177) (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=13163770)
Amiel's Appeasingly Appropriate Arbitrary Amusement (Random Banter): No.CLXXVIII #178 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=245179)
"Your Angel of Banter Awaits." ThePhantasm Presents Random Banter #179 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=13535351)
Serpentine's Secretly Sapphic Salacious Sacrarium of Random Banter #180 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=253047)
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Oh, and just for the record, there's no correct pronunciation; my name is just an assortment of random letters.

[DataNinja]

Oh, hey. New thread. I'd not even noticed that we were on page 50. Whoops. That, uh, sure went a lot faster than most recent ones.

[Peelee]

WHERE'S MY BADGER TAMBOURINE?!? I feel lied to.

[Anonymouswizard]

WHERE'S MY BADGER TAMBOURINE?!? I feel lied to.

We tried to fit it in the thread, but there wasn't mushroom.

Terrible pun? Bah, I'm a Radio 4 listener.

[Peelee]

We tried to fit it in the thread, but there wasn't mushroom.

I don't think I've ever told you this, but you're a fun guy.

[Kyrell1978]

I don't think I've ever told you this, but you're a fun guy.

That pun violates all decent morels :smallbiggrin:

[Anonymouswizard]

I don't think I've ever told you this, but you're a fun guy.

I personally find myself to be more of an immature prick :smalltongue: less obsessed with boobs than my female friends, but still an immature prick.

Although I'm tired and running out of Radio 4 level puns. Which are probably reason number 613 that I'm never going to get a partner, just three more to go until I become a Warlock!

[Peelee]

Although I'm tired and running out of Radio 4 level puns.

What do you need a radio for?

[enderlord99]

We tried to fit it in the thread, but there wasn't mushroom.

AH! Snake!

[Anonymouswizard]

What do you need a radio for?

Look, I'm sorry, but my workplace is utterly filled with their target audience!

Makes me wonder why I'm the only one who listens to it.

[Peelee]

Look, I'm sorry, but my workplace is utterly filled with their target audience!

People too snooty for the first three radios?

Picked a random adjective there, let's see how accurate it was.

[Bartmanhomer]

All right a new thread. :smile:

[Rawhide]

All right a new thread. :smile:

You know, we have rules about needing to produce content. If everyone jumps in just to say "New thread!", it just creates a lot of spam. Please don't do this.

[JNAProductions]

I personally find myself to be more of an immature prick :smalltongue: less obsessed with boobs than my female friends, but still an immature prick.

Although I'm tired and running out of Radio 4 level puns. Which are probably reason number 613 that I'm never going to get a partner, just three more to go until I become a Warlock!

Isn't it usually the dudes who are obsessed with the globes of chest-fat? Not that I'm one to talk-one of my good friends is a crazily chest-obsessed lesbian. :P

[Grey_Wolf_c]

You know, we have rules about needing to produce content. If everyone jumps in just to say "New thread!", it just creates a lot of spam. Please don't do this.

Fisrt!11!lol

Sorry, I'll stop now.

I think it has been expressed in the past that many of these initial empty posts are to force the checkmark next to the thread (not saying it's the case this time; it's certainly not for me, since I depend on the browser changing the link to non-bold to know which threads I've read, which causes me trouble as I do browse from multiple computers). But still, it's a useful indicator of which threads one is interested in, and a victim of his own success in a way, since it can cause this issue. So, if I may ask, is there a way to force the checkmark without posting?

Grey Wolf

[DataNinja]

Fisrt!11!lol

Sorry, I'll stop now.

I think it has been expressed in the past that many of these initial empty posts are to force the checkmark next to the thread (not saying it's the case this time; it's certainly not for me, since I depend on the browser changing the link to non-bold to know which threads I've read, which causes me trouble as I do browse from multiple computers). But still, it's a useful indicator of which threads one is interested in, and a victim of his own success in a way, since it can cause this issue. So, if I may ask, is there a way to force the checkmark without posting?

Grey Wolf

I do not believe that it's possible (given that the check is to show you've posted in it), hence why I try and make sure to give at least something semi-constructive in those sorts of threads quickly (before it's taken by someone more competent than I). :smalltongue:

[Rawhide]

I think it has been expressed in the past that many of these initial empty posts are to force the checkmark next to the thread

To anyone who does this: Don't. Ever.

[Bartmanhomer]

You know, we have rules about needing to produce content. If everyone jumps in just to say "New thread!", it just creates a lot of spam. Please don't do this.

I'm sorry. I couldn't help myself. But I see what you mean. I'll stop. :smile:

[HalfTangible]

Isn't it usually the dudes who are obsessed with the globes of chest-fat?

Is that a bad thing? :smalltongue:

[JNAProductions]

Is that a bad thing? :smalltongue:

Nah. After all, I do love me some lady-jubblies myself. :P

[LaZodiac]

Is that a bad thing? :smalltongue:

Boobs are friend shaped.

Anyway I'd pronounce the thread title "sez-beh-nahl" if you're curious.

[DataNinja]

Is that a bad thing? :smalltongue:

If it's obsession to the point where people are getting uncomfortable (which is usually at the point of 'obsession') then... yes, probably is a bad thing. It's certainly something that one has to read the room about. Since it can very much be an... awkward subject for some. (And a happy discussion time for others. All depends.)

[JNAProductions]

If it's obsession to the point where people are getting uncomfortable (which is usually at the point of 'obsession') then... yes, probably is a bad thing. It's certainly something that one has to read the room about. Since it can very much be an... awkward subject for some. (And a happy discussion time for others. All depends.)

That's true. My chest-loving friend is an internet friend, but given what I know of her, I'd assume she has the tact to not stare at chesty ladies she meets. She's a really nice person, so even if she's tempted to be rude or crass in a bad way, I know that she'd prefer to just be kind.

[DataNinja]

That's true. My chest-loving friend is an internet friend, but given what I know of her, I'd assume she has the tact to not stare at chesty ladies she meets. She's a really nice person, so even if she's tempted to be rude or crass in a bad way, I know that she'd prefer to just be kind.

Oh, I'm sure. A lot of people I know are enough like that - they know whether specific comments that they might make (or actions that they might want to take) would be appropriate in certain situations. I know people who'd love the complements, or would make jokes about it themselves. There are others to whom... yeah, probably best not to bring up stuff like that.

Again, it's obsession to the point of it being an issue to other people - especially if one's disregarding their wishes - that's where it becomes a bad. :smalltongue:

(Me, personally... it's just the kind of conversation that I don't really involve myself in. I have my opinion, but I had it drilled into me as a child that that's the kind of stuff you should never really talk about. And, well... old habits die hard.)

[JNAProductions]

Oh, I'm sure. A lot of people I know are enough like that - they know whether specific comments that they might make (or actions that they might want to take) would be appropriate in certain situations. I know people who'd love the complements, or would make jokes about it themselves. There are others to whom... yeah, probably best not to bring up stuff like that.

Again, it's obsession to the point of it being an issue to other people - especially if one's disregarding their wishes - that's where it becomes a bad. :smalltongue:

(Me, personally... it's just the kind of conversation that I don't really involve myself in. I have my opinion, but I had it drilled into me as a child that that's the kind of stuff you should never really talk about. And, well... old habits die hard.)

*Offers internet hugs*

Feel free to not take them (I can imagine you might not be the most touchy-feely, even digitally), I won't be offended.

But you should always feel free to speak your mind! Obviously one should be tactful and not just flaff bad words about, but you don't need to hide yourself.

[HalfTangible]

Nah. After all, I do love me some lady-jubblies myself. :PHee~ :smallbiggrin:


Boobs are friend shaped.

Anyway I'd pronounce the thread title "sez-beh-nahl" if you're curious.

... That is a slightly horrifying mental image :smalleek:

I pronounce it "S name guy".


If it's obsession to the point where people are getting uncomfortable (which is usually at the point of 'obsession') then... yes, probably is a bad thing. It's certainly something that one has to read the room about. Since it can very much be an... awkward subject for some. (And a happy discussion time for others. All depends.)

Obsession is a bad thing no matter the target, almost by definition. I assumed it was exaggerated here.

[JNAProductions]

Who even said "obsessed"?

*Looks at thread*

Oh. Me. :P

Yeah, perhaps a better way to phrase it would be "Absolutely LOVES boobs."

[Tvtyrant]

I pronounce the name sizz-banal in my head.

I'm one of those people who tries too hard not to look at people, which makes everyone uncomfortable anyway.

[Peelee]

"seh-beh-nahl"

The Z is silent.

[DataNinja]

*Offers internet hugs*

Feel free to not take them (I can imagine you might not be the most touchy-feely, even digitally), I won't be offended.

But you should always feel free to speak your mind! Obviously one should be tactful and not just flaff bad words about, but you don't need to hide yourself.

I mean, I discovered recently upon visiting friends that, no, I don't mind receiving things like hair strokes and cuddles... the issue is just more (again, childhood*) the drilling into me of "no, you don't touch anyone, ever, without their permission." So, even now, like... I have issues so much as tapping someone on the shoulder to get their attention. So, my issues are specifically with giving the touchy-feely stuff. :smalltongue:

(I am just a very awkward person in general. But, yes, very awkward specifically when anything remotely intimate - emotional or physical (and, no, not specifically in that way) - has the possibility to come up.)

*I got the whole package of "no touching, no swearing, always be polite, hold the door open for people, no pushing, please and thank you, wait your turn for everything, no dating until you're at least 16, etc." that I'm sure all parents wanted. And, yeah, child me basically ingrained them on my soul. Which... has, yes, caused issues at times. In retrospect, that whole 'no dating' thing caused me to basically push away some people who could have became friends. So, whoops.

[HalfTangible]

I've been trying to get more open and friendly in the last few years. I give family members hugs now! And friends, sometimes!

[JNAProductions]

I mean, I discovered recently upon visiting friends that, no, I don't mind receiving things like hair strokes and cuddles... the issue is just more (again, childhood*) the drilling into me of "no, you don't touch anyone, ever, without their permission." So, even now, like... I have issues so much as tapping someone on the shoulder to get their attention. So, my issues are specifically with giving the touchy-feely stuff. :smalltongue:

(I am just a very awkward person in general. But, yes, very awkward specifically when anything remotely intimate - emotional or physical (and, no, not specifically in that way) - has the possibility to come up.)

*I got the whole package of "no touching, no swearing, always be polite, hold the door open for people, no pushing, please and thank you, wait your turn for everything, no dating until you're at least 16, etc." that I'm sure all parents wanted. And, yeah, child me basically ingrained them on my soul. Which... has, yes, caused issues at times. In retrospect, that whole 'no dating' thing caused me to basically push away some people who could have became friends. So, whoops.

I getcha. And you know, there's nothing wrong with how you are-it's unfortunate you lost people who could've been good friends, but not being a touchy-feely person isn't a bad thing, it's just a thing.

My parents REALLY ingrained the whole "Please and thank yous, hold doors, no pushing" general courtesy thing into me, but I honestly appreciate that they did that. It means I've grown into a polite person, and I'm happy about that!

[Tvtyrant]

"seh-beh-nahl"

The Z is silent.

I'm not even sure why English has a z (r an x.) Seebra is perfectly comprehensible, not just in writing but outloud.

[DataNinja]

Obsession is a bad thing no matter the target, almost by definition. I assumed it was exaggerated here.

See, that's another fault I have. Taking things too often at face value, and not reading textual tone. (It's why I tend to use far more emoji/smilies than I really should, compared to everyone else. Because I always fear being misunderstood as not joking/light of tone when that's my intention. ...of course, then my English courses kick in, and are all "don't you dare end two back-to-back lines with the same one!")


Who even said "obsessed"?

*Looks at thread*

Oh. Me. :P

Yeah, perhaps a better way to phrase it would be "Absolutely LOVES boobs."

Yes, that's fair enough. I lean towards that way myself, but... eh, I mean, I could live in a world without. :smalltongue:


I've been trying to get more open and friendly in the last few years. I give family members hugs now! And friends, sometimes!

I'll be honest, for a lot of the time for family hugs, especially now, it definitely ends up feeling more like because of obligation than anything else.
(...which comes down to another problem of mine. I am fairly certain that I've never directly said 'no' to my family, at least in any significant capacity - unless there was another obligation I'd already made that conflicted. Even now, as an adult.)


I getcha. And you know, there's nothing wrong with how you are-it's unfortunate you lost people who could've been good friends, but not being a touchy-feely person isn't a bad thing, it's just a thing.

My parents REALLY ingrained the whole "Please and thank yous, hold doors, no pushing" general courtesy thing into me, but I honestly appreciate that they did that. It means I've grown into a polite person, and I'm happy about that!

Eh, no real use dwelling on the past. I like, in general, where I am now - and who knows where changes back then would have put me today. I just figure regret it a bit, but just use that as a lesson for the future.

I mean, I certainly appreciate it - and, really, it doesn't take anything to be civil to someone - but... just it certainly has caused me some shock and stuff at times. My brother, who grew up similarly to me, he thinks nothing of foul language, or anything like that. Certainly grew up a much more normal person than I - as opposed to someone with childhood lessons engraved on their soul. :smalltongue:
(It is always... something to hear my parents use any strong language at times. To give you an idea of how strict things were as a child, anything equal to or above 'stupid' in severity was banned. While I've definitely relaxed a little on that sort of stuff... definitely don't tend to insult people.)

[LaZodiac]

I've been trying to get more open and friendly in the last few years. I give family members hugs now! And friends, sometimes!

You can do it HT! Crush the antisocial ****heel that was Past HT underneath your boots!

One of the most important lessons I've learned growing up is that sometimes you need to kill the you you left behind. It's a simple, though quite complex, thing. The gist of it is that I'm pretty sure the younger version of me would mostly hate my current self for all the good, positive reasons you can be hated by someone.

[Mith]

Hey y'all, I still haven't found the badger yet. A couple of ferrets with marraccas in the cupboard, but that's about it.

[DataNinja]

One of the most important lessons I've learned growing up is that sometimes you need to kill the you you left behind. It's a simple, though quite complex, thing. The gist of it is that I'm pretty sure the younger version of me would mostly hate my current self for all the good, positive reasons you can be hated by someone.

...oh, good. Another thing that I'm bad at. I don't think I could kill past me, even though past me certainly wouldn't fight back. Or present me, for that matter. I'm not good at fighting. :smalltongue:

(Fun fact: I tried Karate when I was younger. I did well enough in it... until it came time to do exercises with/against other people. Even when they were, like, holding up giant padded stuff to punch/kick... I couldn't bring myself to properly do it. And that is why I never got past Yellow Belt.)

[Mith]

...oh, good. Another thing that I'm bad at. I don't think I could kill past me, even though past me certainly wouldn't fight back. Or present me, for that matter. I'm not good at fighting. :smalltongue:

(Fun fact: I tried Karate when I was younger. I did well enough in it... until it came time to do exercises with/against other people. Even when they were, like, holding up giant padded stuff to punch/kick... I couldn't bring myself to properly do it. And that is why I never got past Yellow Belt.)

Just get a large number of alternate you's to help with the task, and win through sheer numbers.

Then double check that you are not in that one Jet Li film. If so, this could get messy.

[Comrade]

Dang, this thread got to page two real fast.


I've been trying to get more open and friendly in the last few years. I give family members hugs now! And friends, sometimes!

I've always been a handshakes kind of guy with pretty much everybody outside of family or very close friends. I don't mind a hug, but my instinct is always to go for a handshake, which can result in some finagling when somebody I've only met a handful of times goes for a hug and I have to swiftly readjust to avoid making them feel awkward.

[DataNinja]

Just get a large number of alternate you's to help with the task, and win through sheer numbers.

Then double check that you are not in that one Jet Li film. If so, this could get messy.

Won't help. Everyone knows Ninjas get less effective the more there are of them. :smallwink:


I've always been a handshakes kind of guy with pretty much everybody outside of family or very close friends. I don't mind a hug, but my instinct is always to go for a handshake, which can result in some finagling when somebody I've only met a handful of times goes for a hug and I have to swiftly readjust to avoid making them feel awkward.

Yeah, handshaking was the basics that I was taught for people, outside of family, at least. Haven't had too many try for the hug elsewhere, at least.

[HalfTangible]

See, that's another fault I have. Taking things too often at face value, and not reading textual tone. (It's why I tend to use far more emoji/smilies than I really should, compared to everyone else. Because I always fear being misunderstood as not joking/light of tone when that's my intention. ...of course, then my English courses kick in, and are all "don't you dare end two back-to-back lines with the same one!")*shrug* Same. Some days are better than others for reasons I cannot discern.


I'll be honest, for a lot of the time for family hugs, especially now, it definitely ends up feeling more like because of obligation than anything else.
(...which comes down to another problem of mine. I am fairly certain that I've never directly said 'no' to my family, at least in any significant capacity - unless there was another obligation I'd already made that conflicted. Even now, as an adult.)

I feel the same way, honestly. I don't enjoy the hugs, but I do go through with them and sometimes even offer them myself. The hug isn't really the point; I just like these people and want to let them know that.


You can do it HT! Crush the antisocial ****heel that was Past HT underneath your boots!

One of the most important lessons I've learned growing up is that sometimes you need to kill the you you left behind. It's a simple, though quite complex, thing. The gist of it is that I'm pretty sure the younger version of me would mostly hate my current self for all the good, positive reasons you can be hated by someone.

Past me wasn't a ****heel. He just had no confidante, no confidence and cared too much what his Dad thought.

I don't think I ever really became my own person, even the HalfPerson that I feel like I am now, until the day it really sunk in that being afraid of Dad would accomplish nothing. He'd still be angry at everything I did, and there was no fixing our relationship. Things only really got better for us when I stopped caring what he wanted or what he thought as my father and started thinking of it in terms of a business transaction. He's a self-made man who knows what he's doing, and I can learn a lot from the guy. So long as I'm willing to be the butt monkey for a little while longer. And hey, he's barely home anymore anyway, so that's a plus.

I spent most of my high school years curled into a ball, crying and certain that I was going to die in a ditch somewhere, cold and alone, an abject failure that did nothing but drain and burden others. Still not sure that I won't end up there, honestly. But I'm hopeful that I won't, and I know I help people. That's a start.

[Teddy]

*I got the whole package of "no touching, no swearing, always be polite, hold the door open for people, no pushing, please and thank you, wait your turn for everything, no dating until you're at least 16, etc." that I'm sure all parents wanted. And, yeah, child me basically ingrained them on my soul. Which... has, yes, caused issues at times. In retrospect, that whole 'no dating' thing caused me to basically push away some people who could have became friends. So, whoops.

I'm personally of the opinion that parents wanting their children to not date before they cross some magical boundry of grownupness is one of those cultural prudishnesses we as a society would be better off without.


See, that's another fault I have. Taking things too often at face value, and not reading textual tone. (It's why I tend to use far more emoji/smilies than I really should, compared to everyone else. Because I always fear being misunderstood as not joking/light of tone when that's my intention. ...of course, then my English courses kick in, and are all "don't you dare end two back-to-back lines with the same one!")

Wait, your English courses taught you emoji usage? http://i.imgur.com/kavzNLd.png


Dang, this thread got to page two real fast.

"Back in my day, no one thought the thread moved fast unless there was a third thread overnight!"
(Yeah, no, I wasn't actually around back when they went through a full thread in one day, but waking up to multiple new pages was a regular occurrence.)


Won't help. Everyone knows Ninjas get less effective the more there are of them. :smallwink:

Then you should obviously bring in more past yous instead. The sheer dilution of ninjutsu would probably be enough to make them evaporate into thin air. It's be as if you never brought them here in the first place oh wait...

ION:
Speaking of ingrained childhood lessons, I can't eat salad served together with a main course before I finished the first portion of said main course.

To explain, I really like fresh vegetables, and child me could easily eat himself full on salad alone, which isn't really optimal for a growing child (and would make me hungry and sad well before the next meal). To deal with this, my parents forbade me to take any salad before I'd finished my first portion, and that stuck with me so hard that I still don't touch the salad until I've finished the rest of my plate.

[DataNinja]

I'm personally of the opinion that parents wanting their children to not date before they cross some magical boundry of grownupness is one of those cultural prudishnesses we as a society would be better off without.

Probably better to explain what it really means, at least, yes. And not "any friendly fraternization with the opposite gender while alone." :smalltongue:


Wait, your English courses taught you emoji usage? http://i.imgur.com/kavzNLd.png

Nah. I mean more the "Don't start multiple sentences in a row the same way, make sure to change up your phrasing, etc." stuff that they insist on. It's still something that I more-or-less follow. I wince if I notice that I used the same adjective or whatnot too much in back-to-back sentences.


"Back in my day, no one thought the thread moved fast unless there was a third thread overnight!"
(Yeah, no, I wasn't actually around back when they went through a full thread in one day, but waking up to multiple new pages was a regular occurrence.)

Well, unfortunately, days keep going by, and times change. :smallwink:


Then you should obviously bring in more past yous instead. The sheer dilution of ninjutsu would probably be enough to make them evaporate into thin air. It's be as if you never brought them here in the first place oh wait...

I feel like mucking about with time travel at all is a bad thing. Best case scenario is that nothing changes at all... and then why do you bother involving time travel? :smallamused:

(Getting more tangentially, the version of time travel that I tend to prefer is that of a "history repair system" - you can interfere with the past, but the further you get away from that point, the less affect your changes had. You might be able to, say, go back in time a day and stop a friend from sending an email you regret, changing that... but if you went back in time however many hundreds of years to stop some historical event... come back to present day, and things are basically the same overall. Maybe someone else signed the important agreement, there's a little bit of a difference in the year your town was founded, whatever, but you can't tell much difference.

Of course, I also tend to do things like that for tabletop groups, where you never know what the time travelers'll do. Bit different when you're in control of characters to set up stable time loops. :smalltongue:)

[LaZodiac]

...oh, good. Another thing that I'm bad at. I don't think I could kill past me, even though past me certainly wouldn't fight back. Or present me, for that matter. I'm not good at fighting. :smalltongue:

(Fun fact: I tried Karate when I was younger. I did well enough in it... until it came time to do exercises with/against other people. Even when they were, like, holding up giant padded stuff to punch/kick... I couldn't bring myself to properly do it. And that is why I never got past Yellow Belt.)

You don't actually have to kill yourself. Some people, and some pasts, can be accepted, or just moved away from.

I've found the best, and easiest, thing to do is hate my old self and try not to be like her. But then that's me, and I've got a boat load of issues I'm still sorting out. Everyone's got their battles, you can do yours!


Dang, this thread got to page two real fast.


The ninja train never stops never stopping.



Past me wasn't a ****heel. He just had no confidante, no confidence and cared too much what his Dad thought.

I don't think I ever really became my own person, even the HalfPerson that I feel like I am now, until the day it really sunk in that being afraid of Dad would accomplish nothing. He'd still be angry at everything I did, and there was no fixing our relationship. Things only really got better for us when I stopped caring what he wanted or what he thought as my father and started thinking of it in terms of a business transaction. He's a self-made man who knows what he's doing, and I can learn a lot from the guy. So long as I'm willing to be the butt monkey for a little while longer. And hey, he's barely home anymore anyway, so that's a plus.

I spent most of my high school years curled into a ball, crying and certain that I was going to die in a ditch somewhere, cold and alone, an abject failure that did nothing but drain and burden others. Still not sure that I won't end up there, honestly. But I'm hopeful that I won't, and I know I help people. That's a start.

That's fair, and truthfully most people are a better judge of themselves than outsiders anyway. For the most part.

I'm sorry you gotta deal with a ****ty Dad. I'm lucky to have one who's only problems is that he's a bit of a tease.

Same *sends polite head pats since you're not super big into hugs but sometimes are*

Also as an aside, you're a full person. Never feel like you're incomplete.

[DataNinja]

You don't actually have to kill yourself. Some people, and some pasts, can be accepted, or just moved away from.

I've found the best, and easiest, thing to do is hate my old self and try not to be like her. But then that's me, and I've got a boat load of issues I'm still sorting out. Everyone's got their battles, you can do yours!

Oh, good, you say that just as I figured out I'd just need to send a pirate to the past, and then 50/50 shot that gets rid of my problem. :smallwink:

But, no, I get it. I don't hate my 'past me's. They're just... mostly naïve. Excessively naïve, and with a lack of self-reflection to realize their problems. (Such as my recent realization that I am very, very bad at rocking the boat. Adaptable, generally... but bad at making that first push. But, acknowledging that fault has helped with it. And helped solve some of the problems it caused. The rest are future me's problems.)


The ninja train never stops never stopping.

Is that just a complicated way of saying eternally going? Because I think there're too many negatives in there. :smallconfused: :smalltongue:

[LaZodiac]

Oh, good, you say that just as I figured out I'd just need to send a pirate to the past, and then 50/50 shot that gets rid of my problem. :smallwink:

But, no, I get it. I don't hate my 'past me's. They're just... mostly naïve. Excessively naïve, and with a lack of self-reflection to realize their problems. (Such as my recent realization that I am very, very bad at rocking the boat. Adaptable, generally... but bad at making that first push. But, acknowledging that fault has helped with it. And helped solve some of the problems it caused. The rest are future me's problems.)



Is that just a complicated way of saying eternally going? Because I think there're too many negatives in there. :smallconfused: :smalltongue:

Never stop never stopping is a lot of things. It's predominantly a reference to NIER which is one of my favorite games.

Primarly it's just a really hard, deep way of saying "nothing ever stops". To overexplain it; stopping is a thing that things do. "never stopping" is how it feels like life goes sometimes. SAying "life never stops never stopping" is an admission that this feeling of "they will not let me off the ride" will never stop happening.

Nothing stops. Nothing ever stops.

[Peelee]

back-to-back


back-to-back

Tsk tsk. Couldn't have used "consecutive" the second time? :smalltongue:

[DataNinja]

Never stop never stopping is a lot of things. It's predominantly a reference to NIER which is one of my favorite games.

Primarly it's just a really hard, deep way of saying "nothing ever stops". To overexplain it; stopping is a thing that things do. "never stopping" is how it feels like life goes sometimes. SAying "life never stops never stopping" is an admission that this feeling of "they will not let me off the ride" will never stop happening.

Nothing stops. Nothing ever stops.

Ah, alright, gotcha. Makes sense. I've heard good things about that game (including from when you Tasted it and then proceeded to, like, beat the whole thing before upload, IIRC :smalltongue:), but never actually played it.

It still feels like it needs a comma in there, though. "Life never stops, never stopping."


Tsk tsk. Couldn't have used "consecutive" the second time? :smalltongue:

Those were two entirely separate posts! :smalltongue:
(Mostly because the first wasn't onscreen for me to compare wording to, and for me to catch the similarities as I scan over proofreading.)

[factotum]

I'm not even sure why English has a z (r an x.) Seebra is perfectly comprehensible, not just in writing but outloud.

But...that's a completely different pronunciation to the actual word? Z and S are most definitely not pronounced the same, at least in the UK, and I'm struggling to think of another letter combination that would actually sound like Z does.

[Comrade]

Never stop never stopping is a lot of things. It's predominantly a reference to NIER which is one of my favorite games.

I figured it was a reference to that Andy Samberg movie from a couple of years ago...

[Fyraltari]

I got ‘‘zbnal’’ ; you guys need to learn to deal with consonant clusters.

[Lacco]

(Fun fact: I tried Karate when I was younger. I did well enough in it... until it came time to do exercises with/against other people. Even when they were, like, holding up giant padded stuff to punch/kick... I couldn't bring myself to properly do it. And that is why I never got past Yellow Belt.)

I have the same issue. My father - an army guy with background in karate - taught me how to defend myself and then conspired with my mother to program me to care about my opponents' wellbeing to such degree that I have to force to defend myself :smallbiggrin:

Even now, during HEMA practice, while clad in protective gear, I pull my punches in such way that my trainer just facepalms and asks why I avoid hitting the other guy.

It seems I have missed the interesting debate... but to relatively-current topic of "non-contact" people: I'm firm believer in handshakes and nods. Nods are for people I do not know and feel like I want it to continue that way. Handshakes are neutral ground. Hugs are for family, kisses for intimacy.

But there were times when I was a teen - and there was this general rule about cheek kisses when you are introduced/when you introduce yourself to the opposite sex. Interestingly, looking back it was very nice idea - broke the ice relatively fast and it told you about the chemistry very quick. It was considered very bad form to "force" the cheek kiss in any way - if the lady wanted to stay out of it, she either did the "air kiss" or just stayed out of reach. And for guys it was quite easy - you just stepped half the distance and offered the side of your face - if there was any contact, it usually meant you were not completely disliked :smallbiggrin:

I think it's still a custom, however, as we age up it's more for the singles now. But I am still surprised how fast I transitioned from "no contact at all" to this. Oh, and I love hugging, just not hugging anyone.

...and don't get me started on the neck-hair-standing-awkward backpats my boss used to give.

[Anonymouswizard]

People too snooty for the first three radios?

Picked a random adjective there, let's see how accurate it was.

Closer to 'too in possession of zimmer frames'.


Isn't it usually the dudes who are obsessed with the globes of chest-fat? Not that I'm one to talk-one of my good friends is a crazily chest-obsessed lesbian. :P

To be fair, most of my friends are female and bisexual.


Also, I'm certain it's 'Zub-gnarl'. The s is clearly silent.


Annoyingly, the more likely I am to want to hug somebody the more likely they are to respect my boundaries and not. Being autistic doesn't automatically mean I don't have a need for physical affection!

[factotum]

Also, I'm certain it's 'Zub-gnarl'. The s is clearly silent.


I always pronounce it in my head, though--come out as something like "suzubnarl".

[Bartmanhomer]

Just out curiosity, what does white text in the forum means exactly? I know that blue text means sarcasm. So I want to know what white text means exactly?

[Peelee]

you guys need to learn to deal with consonant clusters.

That's like saying I need to learn underwater basket weaving. I could, but why?

[Bartmanhomer]

That's like saying I need to learn underwater basket weaving. I could, but why?

May I also add that just like asking what's the difference between real news and fake news.

[SZbNAhL]

Closer to 'too in possession of zimmer frames'.

As opposed to the hip n' happening Radio 3, with its party dance mixes of ... baroque and classical music.


May I also add that just like asking what's the difference between real news and fake news.

No, there's a pretty clear distinction there. Real news is stuff that really happened (to take the least political example I could find on short notice, the University of Cardiff is no longer using plastic cups (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-49247835)). Fake news is stuff that didn't really happen, so to take another non-political example, Canada has just declared the sale of artichokes illegal on Thursdays.

And on a completely unrelated note, all this discussion of my name's pronunciation has given me a great fey loophole idea: don't bother to hide your true name, just make it something almost impossible to pronounce.
Fairy King: I have you in my power now, Sozbnal!
Me: Nope.
FK: Z'bnal?
Me: Guess again.
FK: S.Z. Banal?
Me: Now that just sounds like a particularly bland Georgian poet.

[Peelee]

And on a completely unrelated note, all this discussion of my name's pronunciation has given me a great fey loophole idea: don't bother to hide your true name, just make it something almost impossible to pronounce.

Too outlandish, I tells ya! (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mister_Mxyzptlk)

[Bartmanhomer]

As opposed to the hip n' happening Radio 3, with its party dance mixes of ... baroque and classical music.



No, there's a pretty clear distinction there. Real news is stuff that really happened (to take the least political example I could find on short notice, the University of Cardiff is no longer using plastic cups (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-49247835)). Fake news is stuff that didn't really happen, so to take another non-political example, Canada has just declared the sale of artichokes illegal on Thursdays.

And on a completely unrelated note, all this discussion of my name's pronunciation has given me a great fey loophole idea: don't bother to hide your true name, just make it something almost impossible to pronounce.
Fairy King: I have you in my power now, Sozbnal!
Me: Nope.
FK: Z'bnal?
Me: Guess again.
FK: S.Z. Banal?
Me: Now that just sounds like a particularly bland Georgian poet.

That was basically my whole entire point.

[LaZodiac]

Ah, alright, gotcha. Makes sense. I've heard good things about that game (including from when you Tasted it and then proceeded to, like, beat the whole thing before upload, IIRC :smalltongue:), but never actually played it.

It still feels like it needs a comma in there, though. "Life never stops, never stopping."

It's funnier without the comma since it implies no stopping in your saying it. There are no pauses in saying the phrase you say it all at once, and that carries a sort of intensity to it.


I figured it was a reference to that Andy Samberg movie from a couple of years ago...

It might also be this! My brain is full of things that I piece my identity from.


Just out curiosity, what does white text in the forum means exactly? I know that blue text means sarcasm. So I want to know what white text means exactly?

Secret messages.

[Peelee]

I mostly use white text for delayed punchlines. Humor is an art that I like to explore with the dexterity of a kindergartener with watercolors.

[Anonymouswizard]

Just out curiosity, what does white text in the forum means exactly? I know that blue text means sarcasm. So I want to know what white text means exactly?

It means the text has blended with the background


As opposed to the hip n' happening Radio 3, with its party dance mixes of ... baroque and classical music.

Now don't knock Radio 3, I have a cousin who produced a show on it. In honesty the key thing about Radio 3 is there's more leeway about what you can put on our, evening of it is mostly banging tunes these days.


I honestly still don't get the point of Radio 5 (Live).

[Lacco]

YouBUTcanWHOalsoWOULDsimulateDOstrangeSOMETHINGvoi cesLIKEwithTHAT?it.

[Bartmanhomer]

Well I'm trying to cut down my coffee addiction. Today I drink one cup of coffee. :smile:

[Comrade]

FK: S.Z. Banal?
Me: Now that just sounds like a particularly bland Georgian poet.

Banal, no, but Banalidze or Banalishvili...

(I'm part Georgian and damn near every other Georgian has a surname ending in -dze or -shvili. I'm also assuming you're referring to the country and not the state here.)

[Anonymouswizard]

(I'm part Georgian

I didn't realise you were old! Tell me, how were Kings George, George, George, and George?

[Tvtyrant]

But...that's a completely different pronunciation to the actual word? Z and S are most definitely not pronounced the same, at least in the UK, and I'm struggling to think of another letter combination that would actually sound like Z does.

Yeah but there are very few overlapping words with a and s, the syllable isn't needed. We lose zounds to sounds.

[FinnLassie]

Yous all managed to talk for three pages before I was able to snap open my own can of thread participation goodness?! What are you people, social or something?

I mangled my ankle close to two weeks ago and it's still iffy. If it's still flipping the bird at me on Wednesday, ER time!

[SZbNAhL]

Too outlandish, I tells ya! (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mister_Mxyzptlk)

Mix-Yez-Pittle-Ick. Of course, the real question is how to pronounce Kltpzyxm.


I honestly still don't get the point of Radio 5 (Live).

No, no, "I hate sports" was the previous random banter thread.

But seriously, if you want a pointless radio station try Radio 6. It's just Radio 1 with less talented presenters. Also apologies to anyone who isn't British and has no idea what we're on about.


Banal, no, but Banalidze or Banalishvili...

(I'm part Georgian and damn near every other Georgian has a surname ending in -dze or -shvili. I'm also assuming you're referring to the country and not the state here.)

I'm referring to the poetic movement roughly coterminous with the reign of George V (1910-1936). In hindsight, probably not a reference most non-UK playgrounders can reasonably be expected to get.

[Bartmanhomer]

Yous all managed to talk for three pages before I was able to snap open my own can of thread participation goodness?! What are you people, social or something?

I mangled my ankle close to two weeks ago and it's still iffy. If it's still flipping the bird at me on Wednesday, ER time!

Everybody is socially active. :smile: I just can't wait to play my very first D&D First Edition Game. :smile:

[Peelee]

Yous all managed to talk for three pages before I was able to snap open my own can of thread participation goodness?! What are you people, social or something
Given that we're all on the internet, I'd say anti-social might be more accurate.:smallwink:

I mangled my ankle close to two weeks ago and it's still iffy. If it's still flipping the bird at me on Wednesday, ER time!
Free access to medical facilities and you put it off.... Well, in any event, I hope you don't need to go and it feels better soon.

Mix-Yez-Pittle-Ick. Of course, the real question is how to pronounce Kltpzyxm.
Kci-Lkttip-Zey-Xim. Obviously.

[Anonymouswizard]

Yous all managed to talk for three pages before I was able to snap open my own can of thread participation goodness?! What are you people, social or something?

I hope not, I annihilate with that in a burst of hard radiation.


Everybody is socially active.

I resent the implication! I'd have much fewer mental issues if I was!


@SZbNAhL, I think Radio 4 Extra makes a valiant case for Most Redundant Station.

[Comrade]

I'm referring to the poetic movement roughly coterminous with the reign of George V (1910-1936). In hindsight, probably not a reference most non-UK playgrounders can reasonably be expected to get.

Oops.

The term 'Georgian' officially refers to too many things.

[Bartmanhomer]

I hope not, I annihilate with that in a burst of hard radiation.



I resent the implication! I'd have much fewer mental issues if I was!


@SZbNAhL, I think Radio 4 Extra makes a valiant case for Most Redundant Station.

I'm sorry to hear that. :frown:

[Fyraltari]

Yous all managed to talk for three pages before I was able to snap open my own can of thread participation goodness?! What are you people, social or something?
Nah, they just live on the other side of an ocean.

That's like saying I need to learn underwater basket weaving. I could, but why?
So wouldn't have to pretend to see letters that aren't there.

[DataNinja]

To be fair, most of my friends are female and bisexual.

Yes, I do feel that that probably does determine a general base level of comfort higher than possibly other combinations of the two. (Though, admittedly, not necessarily.)


Annoyingly, the more likely I am to want to hug somebody the more likely they are to respect my boundaries and not. Being autistic doesn't automatically mean I don't have a need for physical affection!

Yeah, that is something that I've noticed tends to happen. At least in my experience. I've certainly heard of different experiences with regard to that. But, because I tend to be a boundary-focused person in general, it means people notice that.


Just out curiosity, what does white text in the forum means exactly? I know that blue text means sarcasm. So I want to know what white text means exactly?

White text is along the lines of strikethrough, in it essentially being "meant" to be ignored - in white text's case, it's far less obvious about it, though. If you've only got a single line of it (rather than whole paragraphs), it's easy for something to be missed entirely, as there's no huge gap. So, usually, it's really only there as a personal joke (or if you expect the post to be quoted), rather than something that you'll expect everyone to see (like you would with strikeout).


It's funnier without the comma since it implies no stopping in your saying it. There are no pauses in saying the phrase you say it all at once, and that carries a sort of intensity to it.

That's fair. I just tend to have a thing about commas. There needs to be just the right amount. Sometimes I'll just go about splitting sentences into two just because they seem to individually have 'too many' commas, even if it makes perfect sense. :smallamused:


It might also be this! My brain is full of things that I piece my identity from.

Yeah... yeah, that sounds about right. I feel that. Even if my brain's less full of various things than I might like/one might expect. :smalltongue:


Yous all managed to talk for three pages before I was able to snap open my own can of thread participation goodness?! What are you people, social or something?

Yeah, 'or something' sounds roughly about right. :smallwink:


I mangled my ankle close to two weeks ago and it's still iffy. If it's still flipping the bird at me on Wednesday, ER time!

Oh, geez, Finn. I hope it's nothing serious, and that it heals quickly.

[Peelee]

So wouldn't have to pretend to see letters that aren't there.

I'm the one who refused to see a letter that was there! :smalltongue:

[Teddy]

Probably better to explain what it really means, at least, yes. And not "any friendly fraternization with the opposite gender while alone." :smalltongue:

*shrugs*
We were aware of the basics of dating already in the earliest years in school. It isn't exactly complicated.


I feel like mucking about with time travel at all is a bad thing. Best case scenario is that nothing changes at all... and then why do you bother involving time travel? :smallamused:

(Getting more tangentially, the version of time travel that I tend to prefer is that of a "history repair system" - you can interfere with the past, but the further you get away from that point, the less affect your changes had. You might be able to, say, go back in time a day and stop a friend from sending an email you regret, changing that... but if you went back in time however many hundreds of years to stop some historical event... come back to present day, and things are basically the same overall. Maybe someone else signed the important agreement, there's a little bit of a difference in the year your town was founded, whatever, but you can't tell much difference.

Of course, I also tend to do things like that for tabletop groups, where you never know what the time travelers'll do. Bit different when you're in control of characters to set up stable time loops. :smalltongue:)

I'm almost violently opposed to time travel myself. To many stories with time travel create time loops where people go back in time and create that event or invention or piece of art which deeply inspired them in the future, and I just find such origin stories deeply unsatisfying.


It still feels like it needs a comma in there, though. "Life never stops, never stopping."

That does change the meaning of the phrase, though. Not the formal logic of it, sure, but the subtle flavour.


Just out curiosity, what does white text in the forum means exactly? I know that blue text means sarcasm. So I want to know what white text means exactly?

It has no exact meaning, people use it to create hidden or semi-hidden messages for whatever reason they want something not immediately visible. Personally, I most often use it to either provide boring explanations to things that sound funnier unexplained, but which people undoubtedly will ask for an explanation for, in which case they'll see it when they quote me. Or (as was more the case in my last post) to put some distance between two bits of text where one is vastly less important than the other, and tons of line breaks just look ugly.


Yeah but there are very few overlapping words with a and s, the syllable isn't needed. We lose zounds to sounds.

Oh dear no, the English language most definitely doesn't need even more sounds tied to the same letters only barely separable via context!


I mangled my ankle close to two weeks ago and it's still iffy. If it's still flipping the bird at me on Wednesday, ER time!

Ouch! Here's hoping for recovery! I'm not sure if you can talk about a swift such after two weeks already, but a soon such at least.


Free access to medical facilities and you put it off.... Well, in any event, I hope you don't need to go and it feels better soon.

Hmm, I think there might a cultural difference in when people consider it time to seek medical attention between us Nordic countries and you North Americans, if my interaction with people on the Internet contra people I know around me are any indication. I don't know what it would be, though. Maybe a stronger sense of solidarity with society over here making people less willing to "burden the system with their trivialities". After all, just because it's mostly free doesn't mean there's an infinite capacity. Part of the unspoken social contract is recognising when you probably don't need help from the system, and refraining from using it in that case.

[DataNinja]

*shrugs*
We were aware of the basics of dating already in the earliest years in school. It isn't exactly complicated.

It's not, but it speaks to my naïveté that I was still really unaware into, like, high school. Go me. :smallredface:


I'm almost violently opposed to time travel myself. To many stories with time travel create time loops where people go back in time and create that event or invention or piece of art which deeply inspired them in the future, and I just find such origin stories deeply unsatisfying.

No, that's fair. It definitely has a lot of ways to undercut accomplishments. That's why I like the "not really able to change things in the past" flavour, because the only thing one can really gain is knowledge and perspective. You change because of it, the world itself doesn't.


That does change the meaning of the phrase, though. Not the formal logic of it, sure, but the subtle flavour.

Oh, of course. It just... looks off to me without the comma. Too much run-on. :smallamused:

[factotum]

No, that's fair. It definitely has a lot of ways to undercut accomplishments. That's why I like the "not really able to change things in the past" flavour, because the only thing one can really gain is knowledge and perspective. You change because of it, the world itself doesn't.


That sort of time travel can still have the stable time loop--you know, where someone in the present day gives you a watch, you take it with you into the past, and give the same watch to the younger version of that person? The entire time loop is the same each time through.

[halfeye]

Hmm, I think there might a cultural difference in when people consider it time to seek medical attention between us Nordic countries and you North Americans, if my interaction with people on the Internet contra people I know around me are any indication. I don't know what it would be, though. Maybe a stronger sense of solidarity with society over here making people less willing to "burden the system with their trivialities". After all, just because it's mostly free doesn't mean there's an infinite capacity. Part of the unspoken social contract is recognising when you probably don't need help from the system, and refraining from using it in that case.

Or maybe it's difficult to see a doctor? My GP surgery/practice, which has about six doctors, only allows making appointments 2 weeks ahead of time, and they keep some back to be available on the day, but either way most of them are gone by 8.30 (am), and the few they keep back to the afternoon are gone by 14.30.


That sort of time travel can still have the stable time loop--you know, where someone in the present day gives you a watch, you take it with you into the past, and give the same watch to the younger version of that person? The entire time loop is the same each time through.

So who made the watch, and when? seems wrong to me.

[DataNinja]

That sort of time travel can still have the stable time loop--you know, where someone in the present day gives you a watch, you take it with you into the past, and give the same watch to the younger version of that person? The entire time loop is the same each time through.

I mean, except that's not exactly strictly stable. That watch is going to deteriorate over time, even disregarding the "where did it come from" problem - meaning that the loop will be at least a little different each time as things finally wear down.

But, that's the kind of thing that wouldn't happen in the 'fixed' timeline. If you gave something to someone that they weren't supposed to have, they'd somehow lose it before it really came into effect to damage the timeline, rendering it basically lost and scattered by the time it got to your time again. You'd never be able to start the loop in the first place.

[Teddy]

It's not, but it speaks to my naïveté that I was still really unaware into, like, high school. Go me. :smallredface:

Uhm, for the record, are we talking about "dating" in the sense of being in a relationship, or "dating" in the sense of going out on a date?


No, that's fair. It definitely has a lot of ways to undercut accomplishments. That's why I like the "not really able to change things in the past" flavour, because the only thing one can really gain is knowledge and perspective. You change because of it, the world itself doesn't.

I'm not really fond of that flavour of time travel either, because that in turn makes it feel kinda pointless, and also arbitrarily restricted by the universe. Sooner or later, some time researcher is going to attempt to mess up the timeline completely just to see how far the universe is willing to go in stopping them, and how do you write a story that resolves that in a smooth fashion?

In fact, the only story I can think of where the premise depended on time travel and which I truly enjoyed was Tim Powers' The Anubis Gates, in which there, due to an event, exists a finite number of specific points in time when it's possible to open a portal to another specific point in time. That makes it possible to do time travel without forking timelines, and still enforce that history turns out the same way without making it feel like there are arbitrary limitations at play.


Or maybe it's difficult to see a doctor? My GP surgery/practice, which has about six doctors, only allows making appointments 2 weeks ahead of time, and they keep some back to be available on the day, but either way most of them are gone by 8.30 (am), and the few they keep back to the afternoon are gone by 14.30.

Somewhat, but usually not overly so. And in theory, that shouldn't significantly affect people's tendency to suggest you get your various ailments checked.

[Peelee]

Hmm, I think there might a cultural difference in when people consider it time to seek medical attention between us Nordic countries and you North Americans, if my interaction with people on the Internet contra people I know around me are any indication. I don't know what it would be, though. Maybe a stronger sense of solidarity with society over here making people less willing to "burden the system with their trivialities". After all, just because it's mostly free doesn't mean there's an infinite capacity. Part of the unspoken social contract is recognising when you probably don't need help from the system, and refraining from using it in that case.

Think of it as someone thirsty in the desert hearing that another person is thinking about getting a glass of water but the fridge is too far away. Just because desert-person would chug as much as they could immediately doesn't mean they'll always drink like that.:smallwink:

[Rawhide]

Watch 12 Monkeys. The movie, not the lame donkey tv series.

[DataNinja]

Uhm, for the record, are we talking about "dating" in the sense of being in a relationship, or "dating" in the sense of going out on a date?

As in the sense of what, exactly, a relationship entailed. Because in my mind, "dating" was just going out, and doing whatever seemed fun (again, not in that sense) together. Basically, just... a closer brand of friendship, really. (Which, yes, I understand now that that's still the seed of things - if you're not close friends, it's probably not gonna work out - but in my mind, that's really all there was to it.)

So, there was me with the sense of "oh, yeah, a date is just, like, going out for dinner, bowling, whatever, just the two of you." And 'dating' was pretty much nothing else. Yeah. :smalltongue:


I'm not really fond of that flavour of time travel either, because that in turn makes it feel kinda pointless, and also arbitrarily restricted by the universe. Sooner or later, some time researcher is going to attempt to mess up the timeline completely just to see how far the universe is willing to go in stopping them, and how do you write a story that resolves that in a smooth fashion?

In fact, the only story I can think of where the premise depended on time travel and which I truly enjoyed was Tim Powers' The Anubis Gates, in which there, due to an event, exists a finite number of specific points in time when it's possible to open a portal to another specific point in time. That makes it possible to do time travel without forking timelines, and still enforce that history turns out the same way without making it feel like there are arbitrary limitations at play.

And that's fair enough. I don't begrudge people for not enjoying the taste of time travel in their story dish. It's a flavour that's really easy to get wrong, and it's certainly one that requires inherently a fair bit of suspension of disbelief.

[Peelee]

Watch 12 Monkeys. The movie, not the lame donkey tv series.

https://morbotron.com/video/S04E08/AlEIHfCy70V7VAjcf4LqguuReFE=.gif

[Anonymouswizard]

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Uhm, for the record, are we talking about "dating" in the sense of being in a relationship, or "dating" in the sense of going out on a date?

Wait, we're not taking about determining the age of something?

[DataNinja]

Wait, we're not taking about determining the age of something?
I mean, technically that's still an important part of relationships. :smalltongue:

[Anonymouswizard]

Yes, I do feel that that probably does determine a general base level of comfort higher than possibly other combinations of the two. (Though, admittedly, not necessarily.)

To be fair, it's also a running joke between myself and a friend that everybody likes boobs, but some people pretend not to :smalltongue:

In all seriousness though, I never got the fascination with large chest globes.


Yeah, that is something that I've noticed tends to happen. At least in my experience. I've certainly heard of different experiences with regard to that. But, because I tend to be a boundary-focused person in general, it means people notice that.

Yep, it's almost literally by the point I actually enjoy hugging somebody that they stop doing it :smallsigh: (exceptions include my ex, and I'm hoping my best friend will eventually get the hint that I want to hug more.) Even in relationships there's apparently no cuddling for this wizard, because I must be kept touch deprived due to not liking people I don't know touch my skin.

I mean, seriously, I touch a lot of things, I tend to touch things I like an unusually large amount. Is it that hard to believe that I might actually enjoy and find comfort in touching people that I do like? (I mean, some of my friends are touch-averse, and I respect that, but for others they tend to see 'British Autistic' and jump to 'doesn't want touch ever'.)


I mean, technically that's still an important part of relationships. :smalltongue:

Species is another one to watch out for. Never let an elven druid set you up without first checking the number of legs.

I'm telling you, can't take a centaur to eat anywhere nice.

[FinnLassie]

Free access to medical facilities and you put it off.... Well, in any event, I hope you don't need to go and it feels better soon.

I mean it's free to go in but the bill will still come in afterwards. Health care ISN'T free in Finland, but it is UNIVERSAL. It's free for everyone under the age of 18, after that you gotta pay. After your appointments go over a certain sum (depends on your own medical health care area), it's capped and you don't have to pay for following appointments iirc. Never had the cap happen though, and it's A LOT of money to get into that cap. I mean, it's still EXTREMELY cheap compared to the US - my three day hospital visit with all of the xrays and surgical procedure and meds during the stay stuff came under 150 euros, compared to my three hour visit to a US hospital that ended up being about 5000$.

But for me, it's not cheap, I don't have the money to go to the hospital for every little thing. It's all relative. I'm a disabled student living on benefits that cover my basic costs of living, leaving little room for accidents, getting sick and getting meds that aren't related to my disabilities. I can't afford to have these things happen to me.

I'm just tired of people thinking health care here is FREE.

EDIT: I'm just extra frustrated because I'm gonna start tests for my hearing next week and it's not just gonna be limited to one specialist appointment. Hahaha what money!

[Lacco]

Wait, we're not taking about determining the age of something?

If we are, then look for sharp angles. Like on elbows and knees during walk.

Other tricks include asking about favourite bands, if they remember last century... and if everything fails, cleave a single leg and count growth rings.

@AW: I know this sounds rather extreme or even... direct, but have you tried post-hypnotic suggestion? Or just normal suggestion :smallwink:

EDIT: As someone who lives in a country with the general care being free, it usually comes with a price. You know the triangle cheap-fast-good? Well...

[SZbNAhL]

Kci-Lkttip-Zey-Xim. Obviously.

At long last I've succeeded in sending Peelee back to the fifth dimension.


Oops.

The term 'Georgian' officially refers to too many things.

I blame St. George, who was Patron saint of far too many places. American Georgia and the Georgian poets were both named after British King Georges, who took that name because he's the patron saint of England. Asian Georgia is named after him because he's also your patron saint. Ethiopia and Catalonia have towns named after him, because he's their patron saint. Etc.


I'm almost violently opposed to time travel myself. To many stories with time travel create time loops where people go back in time and create that event or invention or piece of art which deeply inspired them in the future, and I just find such origin stories deeply unsatisfying.

Whatever you do, don't read Heinlein's All You Zombies. Everyone else, by contrast, is highly encouraged to do so. One of my favourite sci-fi short stories.


Hmm, I think there might a cultural difference in when people consider it time to seek medical attention between us Nordic countries and you North Americans, if my interaction with people on the Internet contra people I know around me are any indication. I don't know what it would be, though. Maybe a stronger sense of solidarity with society over here making people less willing to "burden the system with their trivialities". After all, just because it's mostly free doesn't mean there's an infinite capacity. Part of the unspoken social contract is recognising when you probably don't need help from the system, and refraining from using it in that case.

That sounds like the British position to me.
"Oh, I don't want to be a bother to anyone"
"Dave, your arm just got cut off"
"I have another one. I'm sure there are other people in greater need"

[DataNinja]

To be fair, it's also a running joke between myself and a friend that everybody likes boobs, but some people pretend not to :smalltongue:

In all seriousness though, I never got the fascination with large chest globes.

Almost like people have different psychologies. :smallwink:


Yep, it's almost literally by the point I actually enjoy hugging somebody that they stop doing it :smallsigh: (exceptions include my ex, and I'm hoping my best friend will eventually get the hint that I want to hug more.) Even in relationships there's apparently no cuddling for this wizard, because I must be kept touch deprived due to not liking people I don't know touch my skin.

I don't suppose that you could mention things along the lines of that you "don't mind touch from the people you're close to" to that friend? Because for humans in generals... mind readers are things that they ain't. :smalltongue:

I do understand how that's a difficult subject to broach (and would probably feel awkward in finding an appropriate time), but, hey, if they enjoy physical contact with people, seems fine enough to mention it.


I mean, seriously, I touch a lot of things, I tend to touch things I like an unusually large amount. Is it that hard to believe that I might actually enjoy and find comfort in touching people that I do like? (I mean, some of my friends are touch-averse, and I respect that, but for others they tend to see 'British Autistic' and jump to 'doesn't want touch ever'.)

Could be like me. In that they don't really see themselves as being, well, close enough to make that assumption. To make that sort of leap. Always better to err on the side of caution, at least for me. I'd rather think that I'm too distant, than cross a boundary because I think I'm too close compared to where I actually am.

(One thing in particular that I am very bad with is nicknames or anything like that. I will call you the name you introduce yourself to me as, until you specifically tell me to call you something else. If you introduce yourself as Robert or Samantha, even if everyone else calls you Bob or Sam, I'm not going to assume that I'm close enough to use that sort of diminutive unless you specifically tell me that I can/should call you that.)


Species is another one to watch out for. Never let an elven druid set you up without first checking the number of legs.

I'm telling you, can't take a centaur to eat anywhere nice.

Look, just find a nice robot who's got some modularity. If you hit it off, you've got endless possibilities. :smallwink:

[Lacco]

I don't suppose that you could mention things along the lines of that you "don't mind touch from the people you're close to" to that friend? Because for humans in generals... mind readers are things that they ain't. :smalltongue:

I do understand how that's a difficult subject to broach (and would probably feel awkward in finding an appropriate time), but, hey, if they enjoy physical contact with people, seems fine enough to mention it.

Good step is to open with something relatively safe: "It was a horrible day. I could use a hug." Of course, do not use it around people oblivious to certain speech patterns, but high-empathy huggers will jump at the opportunity.

And if not, repeat the pattern with different context on different day. People tend to notice patterns.

EDIT/ION: Just got back from swordfighting practice. It's been a long time since I went there, so was pretty nervous, but the people there were great. I'm feeling half dead, came home terribly hungry, but ecstatic. It's been a good day.

[Anonymouswizard]

Almost like people have different psychologies. :smallwink:

Madness! :smalltongue:


I don't suppose that you could mention things along the lines of that you "don't mind touch from the people you're close to" to that friend? Because for humans in generals... mind readers are things that they ain't. :smalltongue:

I do understand how that's a difficult subject to broach (and would probably feel awkward in finding an appropriate time), but, hey, if they enjoy physical contact with people, seems fine enough to mention it.

By 'hint' I should say 'two direct statements, one saying I feel touch-starved, another saying I enjoy hugging them'. I'm not a complete ejit, only 90% of one.


Could be like me. In that they don't really see themselves as being, well, close enough to make that assumption. To make that sort of leap. Always better to err on the side of caution, at least for me. I'd rather think that I'm too distant, than cross a boundary because I think I'm too close compared to where I actually am.

(One thing in particular that I am very bad with is nicknames or anything like that. I will call you the name you introduce yourself to me as, until you specifically tell me to call you something else. If you introduce yourself as Robert or Samantha, even if everyone else calls you Bob or Sam, I'm not going to assume that I'm close enough to use that sort of diminutive unless you specifically tell me that I can/should call you that.)

God, I wish people would do that. I can tell if people are actually friends by the fact that they call me by my full name instead of the standard diminuitive (Benedict instead of Ben). It's actually interesting, there's about two people I know who have permission to shorten my name, with anybody else then doing it is a major sign that I don't want to become better friends with them because they don't listen to me.

I introduce myself with my full name, and I will correct people, and they'll still shorten my name. It's annoying because I only give permission in cases of genuine difficulty with my name, and that's an incredibly rare thing. I even specifically got my full name on my name badge at work, and people still insist on shortening it to save a literal second.


Look, just find a nice robot who's got some modularity. If you hit it off, you've got endless possibilities. :smallwink:

Unfortunately the last one claimed I was too squishy to do anything with.

[DataNinja]

By 'hint' I should say 'two direct statements, one saying I feel touch-starved, another saying I enjoy hugging them'. I'm not a complete ejit, only 90% of one.

Ah, okay, gotcha. ...even that's, admittedly, not always enough for some people. But, I get it, not wanting to say "Hey, yeah, I'd be totally fine with, and even would want, some more physical contact from you, if you were fine with that." Because... yeah, I know I'd feel super awkward saying that.


God, I wish people would do that. I can tell if people are actually friends by the fact that they call me by my full name instead of the standard diminuitive (Benedict instead of Ben). It's actually interesting, there's about two people I know who have permission to shorten my name, with anybody else then doing it is a major sign that I don't want to become better friends with them because they don't listen to me.

I introduce myself with my full name, and I will correct people, and they'll still shorten my name. It's annoying because I only give permission in cases of genuine difficulty with my name, and that's an incredibly rare thing. I even specifically got my full name on my name badge at work, and people still insist on shortening it to save a literal second.

Ah, well, I'm sorry that people don't respect your wishes in that regard. I know I always try and do my best to make sure that I accommodate people as best as I can. (Though, I do know that I'm occasionally guilty of shortening people's usernames online if they're more than, like, 8 letters and I need to keep referring to the. I am sorry, but I do get a little lazy at times if I'm having to repeatedly having to type out 20+ letter usernames. I feel bad, but when trying to keep up with a realtime conversation and still have a relevant response, sometimes it wins out. :smallredface: )


Unfortunately the last one claimed I was too squishy to do anything with.

Oh, yes, I do suppose that's fair. Though, there's nothing wrong with squishy, most of the time, at least. That's why humans are fun, right? :smalltongue:

[Comrade]

I blame St. George, who was Patron saint of far too many places. American Georgia and the Georgian poets were both named after British King Georges, who took that name because he's the patron saint of England. Asian Georgia is named after him because he's also your patron saint. Ethiopia and Catalonia have towns named after him, because he's their patron saint. Etc.

It's actually an old misconception (promoted by a European traveler who passed through Georgia I think) that the name stems from St. George. He is highly venerated in Georgia, and probably one of two saints who could be called patron saints of the country (the other being St. Nino, whose sermons in the region caused Armenia and Georgia to become the world's first Christian nations), but the English name itself derives from the Persian word for the country, which is Gurjistan-- land of wolves.

Honestly though, even if St. George was the actual source of the name, I'd probably stick with Gurjistan. Telling people you're from the land of wolves is way more rad than telling people you're from the land of St. George.

[SZbNAhL]

It's actually an old misconception (promoted by a European traveler who passed through Georgia I think) that the name stems from St. George. He is highly venerated in Georgia, and probably one of two saints who could be called patron saints of the country (the other being St. Nino, whose sermons in the region caused Armenia and Georgia to become the world's first Christian nations), but the English name itself derives from the Persian word for the country, which is Gurjistan-- land of wolves.

Honestly though, even if St. George was the actual source of the name, I'd probably stick with Gurjistan. Telling people you're from the land of wolves is way more rad than telling people you're from the land of St. George.

This is a very educational thread sometimes.

[Peelee]

I mean it's free to go in but the bill will still come in afterwards. Health care ISN'T free in Finland, but it is UNIVERSAL. It's free for everyone under the age of 18, after that you gotta pay. After your appointments go over a certain sum (depends on your own medical health care area), it's capped and you don't have to pay for following appointments iirc. Never had the cap happen though, and it's A LOT of money to get into that cap. I mean, it's still EXTREMELY cheap compared to the US - my three day hospital visit with all of the xrays and surgical procedure and meds during the stay stuff came under 150 euros, compared to my three hour visit to a US hospital that ended up being about 5000$.

But for me, it's not cheap, I don't have the money to go to the hospital for every little thing. It's all relative. I'm a disabled student living on benefits that cover my basic costs of living, leaving little room for accidents, getting sick and getting meds that aren't related to my disabilities. I can't afford to have these things happen to me.

I'm just tired of people thinking health care here is FREE.
Fair point. Still envious.

EDIT: As someone who lives in a country with the general care being free, it usually comes with a price. You know the triangle cheap-fast-good? Well...
Yes, but usually that involves the phrase, "pick two." I took someone to the ER some months back around 4:30 in the afternoon. Around 2 in the morning they got her into an ER room, and got her into a hospital proper room just before noon.

At long last I've succeeded in sending Peelee back to the fifth dimension.

Nah, for that I'd need to say Eele-heeeey!

[SZbNAhL]

Nah, for that I'd need to say Eele-heeeey!

*Dons comics nerd hat*

For reasons that were never adequately explained, any third-dimensional being reciting Mxyzptlk's name backwards is sent to the fifth dimension, from which they can return by reciting their own name backwards. Superman once[1] trolled Mxy by travelling to the fifth dimension, ruining his run at a local mayoral election and refusing to say Namrepus. Finally he pretended to slip up, only to not disappear because Superman isn't actually his real name (at the end of the story he returned home by saying Le-Lak). The 60s were weird.

[1] J. Siegel and M. Weisinger (ed), Action Comics , issue 273, 1961

[Insane Jeenyus]

That's like saying I need to learn underwater basket weaving. I could, but why?

What about upside down underwater basket weaving? I have a masters in that, working on my PhD. (Piled higher and Deeper)

In other news, chasing a roadrunner in this weather of the middle south is not advisable. wears the pads off my paws.

in real life though, every year since 2013 I have gotten severely dehydrated, so this year I have invested in lots of Gatorade Zero... Take care, everyone!



Watch 12 Monkeys. The movie, not the lame donkey tv series.

if you mean the one with Bruce willis, yes - good movie


I hope not, I annihilate with that in a burst of hard radiation...

You mean like a positron contacting an electron? wheeee ! anti-matter is fun!!


Well I'm trying to cut down my coffee addiction. Today I drink one cup of coffee. :smile:

so did I, then I had another, and another and another!

[Peelee]

*Dons comics nerd hat*

For reasons that were never adequately explained, any third-dimensional being reciting Mxyzptlk's name backwards is sent to the fifth dimension, from which they can return by reciting their own name backwards. Superman once[1] trolled Mxy by travelling to the fifth dimension, ruining his run at a local mayoral election and refusing to say Namrepus.

This is why I love DC over Marvel. The more ridiculous and low-stakes a superhero story can be, the better!

[Fyraltari]

*Dons comics nerd hat*

For reasons that were never adequately explained, any third-dimensional being reciting Mxyzptlk's name backwards is sent to the fifth dimension, from which they can return by reciting their own name backwards. Superman once[1] trolled Mxy by travelling to the fifth dimension, ruining his run at a local mayoral election and refusing to say Namrepus. Finally he pretended to slip up, only to not disappear because Superman isn't actually his real name (at the end of the story he returned home by saying Le-Lak). The 60s were weird.

[1] J. Siegel and M. Weisinger (ed), Action Comics , issue 273, 1961

Shouldn't he need to have said Tnek Kralc?

[Peelee]

Shouldn't he need to have said Tnek Kralc?

You mean his alien name?

[Fyraltari]

You mean his alien name?

No, the name he was raised under and that he never abandonned.

https://i.redd.it/pljc9nux9ci21.jpg

[Anonymouswizard]

Ah, okay, gotcha. ...even that's, admittedly, not always enough for some people. But, I get it, not wanting to say "Hey, yeah, I'd be totally fine with, and even would want, some more physical contact from you, if you were fine with that." Because... yeah, I know I'd feel super awkward saying that.

Yep. For some reason the only people who can put two and two together ate those with touch issues (where you know what, I won't touch you put of respect unless directly told it's okay. )


Ah, well, I'm sorry that people don't respect your wishes in that regard. I know I always try and do my best to make sure that I accommodate people as best as I can. (Though, I do know that I'm occasionally guilty of shortening people's usernames online if they're more than, like, 8 letters and I need to keep referring to the. I am sorry, but I do get a little lazy at times if I'm having to repeatedly having to type out 20+ letter usernames. I feel bad, but when trying to keep up with a realtime conversation and still have a relevant response, sometimes it wins out. :smallredface: )

I have a general rule that you either call somebody by what they tell you, or something completely unrelated. Names cam be heavily tied into somebody's identity, and in many ways I'm more annoyed by diminutives than by nicknames.

WRT handles, it's interesting. The main reason I prefer my username not to be shortened is clarity, unfortunately the obvious shortenings are rather generic. But at the same time it's not my name, more a self-given nickname, and as such I don't really care when it's shortened.


Oh, yes, I do suppose that's fair. Though, there's nothing wrong with squishy, most of the time, at least. That's why humans are fun, right? :smalltongue:

I've been told that only humanoids of the XX construction are good squishy, and that things work better if those of XY construction are firm.

Unfortunately nobody cared to explain why it matters :smalltongue:


This is why I love DC over Marvel. The more ridiculous and low-stakes a superhero story can be, the better!

Eh, I tend to find superhero stories only get better as they get lower powered but for higher stakes. More John Constantine (rhymes with Serpentine) than Superman. Tends to drive up conflict, which drives up things being done (I prefer my comedy to come from something funny, like a panel show, so I'm focusing on drama here).

[Peelee]

Eh, I tend to find superhero stories only get better as they get lower powered but for higher stakes.

Imean, that's just normal people if you go far enough. Compare that to a virtual god who starts charging money to save people as a teen? That's one hell of a story!

[DataNinja]

I have a general rule that you either call somebody by what they tell you, or something completely unrelated. Names cam be heavily tied into somebody's identity, and in many ways I'm more annoyed by diminutives than by nicknames.

WRT handles, it's interesting. The main reason I prefer my username not to be shortened is clarity, unfortunately the obvious shortenings are rather generic. But at the same time it's not my name, more a self-given nickname, and as such I don't really care when it's shortened.

What, you mean that "Mouswiz" isn't obvious? :smallwink:

Also... isn't the point of being an anonymous wizard to be generic?

But, no, I get you on that. It's not quite the same as a name.


I've been told that only humanoids of the XX construction are good squishy, and that things work better if those of XY construction are firm.

Unfortunately nobody cared to explain why it matters :smalltongue:

All depends on who you ask, I suppose. I know enough people who complain when humans of any variety are all skin and bones, and lacking squish, as it makes cuddling up with them a lot more uncomfortable. :smalltongue:

[LaZodiac]

No, the name he was raised under and that he never abandonned.

https://i.redd.it/pljc9nux9ci21.jpg

This is one of my favorite things.

Batman is so ****ing extra. That poor man.

[factotum]

So who made the watch, and when? seems wrong to me.

That's the paradoxical thing about the stable time loop.

[enderlord99]

Why does "Manuscript draft 3.0" come after "Beta final revision"?

I don't understand this versioning system.

[factotum]

Why does "Manuscript draft 3.0" come after "Beta final revision"?

I don't understand this versioning system.

Same reason that software revisions usually go Alpha (buggy as heck, won't have all the features), Beta (should be feature complete, hopefully less buggy than Alpha) and Release Candidate (feature complete, let's find those last few bugs and iron them out).

[Anonymouswizard]

What, you mean that "Mouswiz" isn't obvious? :smallwink:

That sounds like the sorcerer of Redwall Abbey :smalltongue:


All depends on who you ask, I suppose. I know enough people who complain when humans of any variety are all skin and bones, and lacking squish, as it makes cuddling up with them a lot more uncomfortable. :smalltongue:

I mean, humans aren't horny enough for. Who wants a flat forehead? Yuk. No, you need something nice and firm you can grab onto.

Some friends try to tell me I'm too horny, but that's just the way they grew!

[LaZodiac]

Why does "Manuscript draft 3.0" come after "Beta final revision"?

I don't understand this versioning system.

Because it was the final revision of 2.X. We're on 3.X now!

Also, because I'm brimming with confidence.

[DataNinja]

Same reason that software revisions usually go Alpha (buggy as heck, won't have all the features), Beta (should be feature complete, hopefully less buggy than Alpha) and Release Candidate (feature complete, let's find those last few bugs and iron them out).

Wait, you mean that version numbers have to make some sort of sense, and we can't just call it whatever we like? :smalltongue:


That sounds like the sorcerer of Redwall Abbey :smalltongue:

*checks* Ah, book with animals. Yes, yes indeed. I see why you'd think that. :smalltongue:


I mean, humans aren't horny enough for. Who wants a flat forehead? Yuk. No, you need something nice and firm you can grab onto.

Some friends try to tell me I'm too horny, but that's just the way they grew!

Well, to each their own, I suppose. Maybe just wear a comedically giant hat to conceal everything? :smallwink:


Because it was the final revision of 2.X. We're on 3.X now!

Also, because I'm brimming with confidence.

Oh good, gotta get those roman numerals in, too. :smalltongue:

Also, do brim with confidence. Don't leave room in there for doubt. :smallcool:

[Rawhide]

Wait, you mean that version numbers have to make some sort of sense, and we can't just call it whatever we like? :smalltongue:

Cupcake ---> Donut ---> Eclair ---> Froyo ---> Gingerbread ---> Honeycomb ---> Ice Cream Sandwich ---> Jelly Bean ---> KitKat ---> Lollipop ---> Marshmallow ---> Nougat ---> Oreo ---> Pie

[enderlord99]

Cupcake ---> Donut ---> Eclair ---> Froyo ---> Gingerbread ---> Honeycomb ---> Ice Cream Sandwich ---> Jelly Bean ---> KitKat ---> Lollipop ---> Marshmallow ---> Nougat ---> Oreo ---> Pie

I'm still pissed that they skipped Smilodon.

[Rawhide]

I'm still pissed that they skipped Smilodon.

That's a dessert that starts with a letter between C and P?

[DataNinja]

Cupcake ---> Donut ---> Eclair ---> Froyo ---> Gingerbread ---> Honeycomb ---> Ice Cream Sandwich ---> Jelly Bean ---> KitKat ---> Lollipop ---> Marshmallow ---> Nougat ---> Oreo ---> Pie

That doesn't make sense! Some of those are generic, and others are brand names! :smallwink:

[LaZodiac]

Cupcake ---> Donut ---> Eclair ---> Froyo ---> Gingerbread ---> Honeycomb ---> Ice Cream Sandwich ---> Jelly Bean ---> KitKat ---> Lollipop ---> Marshmallow ---> Nougat ---> Oreo ---> Pie

Some of those are EXTREMELY uncomparable. An eclair is not even remotely similar to a cupcake.

Having a mixed day today. My aunt is having a rough go of it since our newest employee dying within a few months means that the reprieve from doing all the Real Estate AND Corporate stuff she had is gone, and after a year of utter madness things have just torn her down. But a client came in and gave me mint hot chocolate in exchange for getting me to scan a thing so I'm feeling personally quite good.

EDIT TO ADD: I didn't actually read the context of this post I quoted.

[enderlord99]

That's a desert that starts with a letter between C and P?

No, and it isn't a dessert either. Before the desserts, they were doing arbitrarily-ordered wildcats.

[Peelee]

That's a desert that starts with a letter between C and P?
The S is silent.:smallamused:

That doesn't make sense! Some of those are generic, and others are brand names! :smallwink:
Dangit, I was going to point that out!

No, and it isn't a dessert either. Before the desserts, they were doing arbitrarily-ordered wildcats.
I thought the cats were Apple and the sweets were Android.

[DataNinja]

Having a mixed day today. My aunt is having a rough go of it since our newest employee dying within a few months means that the reprieve from doing all the Real Estate AND Corporate stuff she had is gone, and after a year of utter madness things have just torn her down. But a client came in and gave me mint hot chocolate in exchange for getting me to scan a thing so I'm feeling personally quite good.

Well, glad that you're doing fine, but it always sucks when things fall apart in general at work. I'm hoping things are able to get themselves sorted, because, yeah, I've seen having to cover multiple jobs wear down a person.

[SZbNAhL]

Why can't everyone just use numbers like normal people?

[Rawhide]

No, and it isn't a dessert either. Before the desserts, they were doing arbitrarily-ordered wildcats.

Cupcake was the first. There were no wildcats.

[DataNinja]

Why can't everyone just use numbers like normal people?

Because people like doing things like that to make them laugh. Just look at how many people name files or variables or something else something funny, even though odds are that nobody'll ever really know. Version names aren't quite so obscure, but at least they're memorable, and a lot more fun to write than just "2.0.11". (Though, granted, said numbers are probably more accurate and granular, but, meh.) :smalltongue:

[LaZodiac]

Well, glad that you're doing fine, but it always sucks when things fall apart in general at work. I'm hoping things are able to get themselves sorted, because, yeah, I've seen having to cover multiple jobs wear down a person.

My aunt has multiple jobs AT her multiple jobs. She's juggling Corporate and Real Estate (with my help) up here, and juggling who knows how much at the hospital job she has.

Capitalism is a disease and it's killing everyone, basically. The good news is we have someone from down south coming up this Sunday to assist for a few days, and in September a new hire is actually coming so we'll have three people to handle five tasks instead of two.


Why can't everyone just use numbers like normal people?

We use numbers like everyone else, it's just that sometimes numbers mean other things depending on context.

[SZbNAhL]

Because people like doing things like that to make them laugh. Just look at how many people name files or variables or something else something funny, even though odds are that nobody'll ever really know. Version names aren't quite so obscure, but at least they're memorable, and a lot more fun to write than just "2.0.11". (Though, granted, said numbers are probably more accurate and granular, but, meh.) :smalltongue:

Fun and interesting has its place, but it annoys me when it impedes utility. At least start with apple pie and brownie so it's clear which letter corresponds to which number. Also, I mostly just wanted to make the joke, but I'm not sure if anybody even reads thread titles.

[HalfTangible]

MRI today, and hopefully we'll then move from checking for a brain tumor every six months to every year. Wish me luck.


My aunt has multiple jobs AT her multiple jobs. She's juggling Corporate and Real Estate (with my help) up here, and juggling who knows how much at the hospital job she has.

Capitalism is a disease and it's killing everyone, basically. The good news is we have someone from down south coming up this Sunday to assist for a few days, and in September a new hire is actually coming so we'll have three people to handle five tasks instead of two.



We use numbers like everyone else, it's just that sometimes numbers mean other things depending on context.

Capitalism has done more good for humanity than basically everything else we've ever tried and every failure attributed to it (along, funnily enough, with some of its early successes) can ultimately be traced back to the government sucking at its job... but that's redundant. :smallwink:

Barely board-legal kidding aside, that does suck :smallfrown: Hope things pull through.

[Anonymouswizard]

*checks* Ah, book with animals. Yes, yes indeed. I see why you'd think that. :smalltongue:

Seems unfair how often rats ate the villains, they're so much cuter than mice!


Well, to each their own, I suppose. Maybe just wear a comedically giant hat to conceal everything? :smallwink:

Unfortunately those went out of fashion years ago, it's all hoods and circlets these days.


In all seriousness I'm scared, and aware that being scared is just making it worse. But I'm years behind in this area, the only relationship I've ever had ended because I'm not perfect, and it doesn't that all of my siblings and most of my friends have no trouble finding partners.

Gah. I'm just tired, and scared I'm going to end up alone sure to the fact that I've not even made any new friends in the past year. Because it's starting to feel like the world's a case of 'if you're not NT then don't even try to live a normal life'. I can't meet people because apparently the only way to do so is to be able to tolerate noise, and I can't even get a vaguely technical job because I need either experience or a better degree. So now I have to live with the ever looming threat of being confined to a home because it looks like I won't be able to make enough money to live on my own once my parents are unable to support me.


Why can't everyone just use numbers like normal people?

Because apparently there are people out there who don't Inversnaid maths despite the entire 'universal language' thing.

[DataNinja]

My aunt has multiple jobs AT her multiple jobs. She's juggling Corporate and Real Estate (with my help) up here, and juggling who knows how much at the hospital job she has.

Capitalism is a disease and it's killing everyone, basically. The good news is we have someone from down south coming up this Sunday to assist for a few days, and in September a new hire is actually coming so we'll have three people to handle five tasks instead of two.

While I may not quite agree on that it's a disease (though, yes, a lot of people do take it further than is probably healthy), that all in general really, really sucks. Except the New Kid(tm) coming. That's good news, and I hope they work out well.


MRI today, and hopefully we'll then move from checking for a brain tumor every six months to every year. Wish me luck.

Luck! Preferably good luck! :smalltongue:

More seriously, hopefully it all goes well. And that you can stay tumor-less.


Seems unfair how often rats ate the villains, they're so much cuter than mice!

Hey, sometimes there's nothing that can beat a good villain. Well, in style and personality, I mean. I guess a lot of time they're usually 'beat' in the context that the hero wins, but...


Unfortunately those went out of fashion years ago, it's all hoods and circlets these days.

Oh, hmmm... Circlet of Disguise? :smalltongue:


In all seriousness I'm scared, and aware that being scared is just making it worse. But I'm years behind in this area, the only relationship I've ever had ended because I'm not perfect, and it doesn't that all of my siblings and most of my friends have no trouble finding partners.

Gah. I'm just tired, and scared I'm going to end up alone sure to the fact that I've not even made any new friends in the past year. Because it's starting to feel like the world's a case of 'if you're not NT then don't even try to live a normal life'. I can't meet people because apparently the only way to do so is to be able to tolerate noise, and I can't even get a vaguely technical job because I need either experience or a better degree. So now I have to live with the ever looming threat of being confined to a home because it looks like I won't be able to make enough money to live on my own once my parents are unable to support me.

I feel you on a lot of that. I know that it's not the same thing, but I get overwhelmed a lot thinking about the future, and how deficient-seeming I am in a lot of the necessary areas, and it's just all so... worrying. Most of my friends are online (though, I'm going to see if I can get that changed a bit this uni year), never really even had a blip on the relationship scale, I don't have anything set up career-wise, stuff (especially housing) is all really expensive here so likely I'd have to move away anyways to do stuff, and just... so, I know those kinds of feelings. I don't have any advice, I'm afraid, besides just try to hang in there. Because no matter what happens, giving up just guarantees the worst result.

[LaZodiac]

MRI today, and hopefully we'll then move from checking for a brain tumor every six months to every year. Wish me luck.

Barely board-legal kidding aside, that does suck :smallfrown: Hope things pull through.

I hope your brain is okay, as ever!

Yeah it sucks a bunch!

Concerning relationships and the suckiness of them: I've been through a lot in my life, and here is something I want to emphasize.

There is always a chance. Everyone has their start eventually, and there's nothing wrong with you for "taking this long" and so on. It's okay.

[Anonymouswizard]

Hey, sometimes there's nothing that can beat a good villain. Well, in style and personality, I mean. I guess a lot of time they're usually 'beat' in the context that the hero wins, but...

True, and I do like a good villain. And it's not just due to the inevitable British accent! :smalltongue:


Oh, hmmm... Circlet of Disguise? :smalltongue:

I'd swap out my Hood of Shadows for one, but I can't get it past the horns :smallwink:


I feel you on a lot of that. I know that it's not the same thing, but I get overwhelmed a lot thinking about the future, and how deficient-seeming I am in a lot of the necessary areas, and it's just all so... worrying. Most of my friends are online (though, I'm going to see if I can get that changed a bit this uni year), never really even had a blip on the relationship scale, I don't have anything set up career-wise, stuff (especially housing) is all really expensive here so likely I'd have to move away anyways to do stuff, and just... so, I know those kinds of feelings. I don't have any advice, I'm afraid, besides just try to hang in there. Because no matter what happens, giving up just guarantees the worst result.

*hugs*

Unless you don't like hugs, in which case *not hugs*

It's just frustrating. I know firsthand that the world is just not set up for people like me, and I pretty much have to be in the most expensive part of the country if I want a shot at getting actual support, so I get very tired with the people saying I'm just being a drama queen (I totally can be, but not in this situation). I want to give up, but I'm too bloody minded not to get up again, because apparently I enjoy being hurt just enough to try struggling through it.

But I swear, if I hear 'you've got a great CV so I'm sure you'll eventually find something, but unfortunately we can't hire you' one more time I might just stop jobsearching completely.


Concerning relationships and the suckiness of them: I've been through a lot in my life, and here is something I want to emphasize.

There is always a chance. Everyone has their start eventually, and there's nothing wrong with you for "taking this long" and so on. It's okay.

The problem is not 'taking this long', the problem is that I did have my start, and it almost immediately stopped again.

I've got relationship blue balls here! :smalltongue:

[DataNinja]

Concerning relationships and the suckiness of them: I've been through a lot in my life, and here is something I want to emphasize.

There is always a chance. Everyone has their start eventually, and there's nothing wrong with you for "taking this long" and so on. It's okay.

Thankfully, I am aware of this fact. And also (like with RPGs) "no relationship is better than a bad one". Just doesn't help much in the moment when you see your friends with all their perfect partners. :smalltongue:


True, and I do like a good villain. And it's not just due to the inevitable British accent! :smalltongue:

Wait, your accent isn't always around? It's just guaranteed to show up eventually? :smallwink:


I'd swap out my Hood of Shadows for one, but I can't get it past the horns :smallwink:

I feel like that was a questionable fashion choice, then, when buying it. :smallamused:


It's just frustrating. I know firsthand that the world is just not set up for people like me, and I pretty much have to be in the most expensive part of the country if I want a shot at getting actual support, so I get very tired with the people saying I'm just being a drama queen (I totally can be, but not in this situation). I want to give up, but I'm too bloody minded not to get up again, because apparently I enjoy being hurt just enough to try struggling through it.

But I swear, if I hear 'you've got a great CV so I'm sure you'll eventually find something, but unfortunately we can't hire you' one more time I might just stop jobsearching completely.

Yeah, that's always frustrating. And I know often people mean well (okay, maybe not with the drama queen comments), but... doesn't make it feel any less annoying having to hear the same things over and over again.

Goodness knows I felt that enough with having my family split into several parts... so when going through my visiting stuff for the holidays, I'd inevitably have to answer every question, like, four times in the span of a handful of days. Exhausting, even if they mean well.


The problem is not 'taking this long', the problem is that I did have my start, and it almost immediately stopped again.

Well, good news. That means that statistically you've found success, and so will find it again. That's the saying, right? Gotta spend success to make success? :smalltongue:

[enderlord99]

I thought the cats were Apple and the sweets were Android.

I thought they were both Apple. However, I just realized that Apple switched to National Parks, not sweet things.

[Anonymouswizard]

Wait, your accent isn't always around? It's just guaranteed to show up eventually? :smallwink:

Oh, this happened all the time as a kid. Hid from the Darleks and left my accent behind the sofa :smalltongue:


I feel like that was a questionable fashion choice, then, when buying it. :smallamused:

Look, when you're looking for secondhand magic items you take what you can find.


Yeah, that's always frustrating. And I know often people mean well (okay, maybe not with the drama queen comments), but... doesn't make it feel any less annoying having to hear the same things over and over again.

Goodness knows I felt that enough with having my family split into several parts... so when going through my visiting stuff for the holidays, I'd inevitably have to answer every question, like, four times in the span of a handful of days. Exhausting, even if they mean well.

Yeah, I know the feelings. I have it bad enough with the family just in twoish parts, I can't imagine the exhuastion from four.


Well, good news. That means that statistically you've found success, and so will find it again. That's the saying, right? Gotta spend success to make success? :smalltongue:

I mean, I also lost the success, and trust me when I say it isn't down the back of the sofa (that's the printer). Or under the bed, or any of the other locations I tend to leave stuff.

I mean, I know statistically I'm likely to find somebody else within the next six decades of my life (if I can lose enough weight to make it six), but that doesn't really help with feeling lonely now, and I've got a good enough STEM education to know that while you conform to probability over a large enough population, it's kind of hard to over a single data point :smalltongue:

[LaZodiac]

The problem is not 'taking this long', the problem is that I did have my start, and it almost immediately stopped again.

I've got relationship blue balls here! :smalltongue:

I mean that's okay too. You'll get through it!

I'll admit I'm like the worst person to give advice, but I still think keeping a positive outfit is going to be the best bet in the long wrong.



Wait, your accent isn't always around? It's just guaranteed to show up eventually? :smallwink:

Well, good news. That means that statistically you've found success, and so will find it again. That's the saying, right? Gotta spend success to make success? :smalltongue:

I've apparently got a noticable Canadian accent according to some American friends of mine, but I feel like I've gotta slip out of it every so often. I did notice I've got a lisp though, and it's actually pretty annoying.

Yeah, that's the right mentality to have. Every step forward IS a step forward. Yesterday's successes are not erased by today's failures.

[Peelee]

I've apparently got a noticable Canadian accent according to some American friends of mine

That can mean anything from sounding like you're in the movie Fargo to sounding completely unaccented but constantly talking about hockey and kilometers.:smallbiggrin:

[LaZodiac]

That can mean anything from sounding like you're in the movie Fargo to sounding completely unaccented but constantly talking about hockey and kilometers.:smallbiggrin:

Watch my videos and make your own conclusions :smallwink:

[DataNinja]

Oh, this happened all the time as a kid. Hid from the Darleks and left my accent behind the sofa :smalltongue:

Ah, I see… :smallamused:


Look, when you're looking for secondhand magic items you take what you can find.

Fair. They're secondhand for a reason, though, usually. :smallwink:


Yeah, I know the feelings. I have it bad enough with the family just in twoish parts, I can't imagine the exhuastion from four.

I mean, technically it's two parts... just each of those parts have the immediate family, which involves preliminary visiting, and then the family who shows up just for the dinner part. But, yeah. Last Christmas-y season, with Birthdays (there're two of them in that stretch, one of them mine), and Christmas, and all of that... I ended up with, like, seven family events in ten days. By the end of it I was just done.


I mean, I also lost the success, and trust me when I say it isn't down the back of the sofa (that's the printer). Or under the bed, or any of the other locations I tend to leave stuff.

I mean, I know statistically I'm likely to find somebody else within the next six decades of my life (if I can lose enough weight to make it six), but that doesn't really help with feeling lonely now, and I've got a good enough STEM education to know that while you conform to probability over a large enough population, it's kind of hard to over a single data point :smalltongue:

Don't worry. It'll be in the last place that you look. I guarantee it. :smallwink:


I mean that's okay too. You'll get through it!

I'll admit I'm like the worst person to give advice, but I still think keeping a positive outfit is going to be the best bet in the long wrong.

Expect the best, prepare for the worst. But don't just assume it's gonna be bad... while you might get pleasantly surprised, it just means you're miserable every moment until it happens.


I've apparently got a noticable Canadian accent according to some American friends of mine, but I feel like I've gotta slip out of it every so often. I did notice I've got a lisp though, and it's actually pretty annoying.

I've not noticed the lisp, at least, so you're good on that in that it's not annoying to others. (And while the accent is noticeable compared to the... I guess North-Western American that mine would be equivalent to, it's not like it's unintelligible or anything. Just gives it a bit of zest.)


That can mean anything from sounding like you're in the movie Fargo to sounding completely unaccented but constantly talking about hockey and kilometers.:smallbiggrin:

Or just saying "eh?" instead of "huh?" :smalltongue:
(I'm in that weird spot where I had a lot of American friends of my parents around growing up, so I genuinely can never remember whether 'soda' or 'pop' is the Canadian one, or 'washroom' vs 'bathroom' or whatever. Both sound equally natural to me.)

In general, the stronger your 'Canadian' accent, the farther East you are. :smallamused:

[Insane Jeenyus]

MRI today, and hopefully we'll then move from checking for a brain tumor every six months to every year. Wish me luck.

*gives "high 5 of luck"*

Gary Gygax Jr has been fighting cancer, and he told me that it has shrunk from radiation treatment to the point of being too small to see with the naked eye. I hope for even better success for you.

[FinnLassie]

I'm currently addicted to Ninja Sex Party's cover albums... well, have been for the entire summer. Danny's voice was made for these songs, and Last Unicorn makes me have so many feels even though I've never seen the film.

[Insane Jeenyus]

Wahoo! EnWorld is back on line! If any are curious to know, Morruss [Russel Morrissey on FB] and the crew have been switching to new servers. It took a while, but It even has that new car smell to it!

By the way, has anyone here watched Twin Peaks?

[Rawhide]

By the way, has anyone here watched Twin Peaks?

I can forgive them for ending Twin Peaks on a cliffhanger, they didn't know it was going to be cancelled. I cannot forgive them for ending Twin Peaks: The Return with that cliffhanger, they knew it was the end.


Why can't everyone just use numbers like normal people?

一二三四五六七八九十

[Mith]

I did web search of myself and found that the The.East Bay Punk Digital Archive (https://eastbaypunkda.com/s/east-bay-punk-digital-archive/item) had PDF copies of a fanzine from 1988 one of which read;


'Even the normally dour [my name] could be heard exclaiming "I haven't had this much fun since the RAMONES back in 1985 ([my first name] is one of the few members of his generation pos-sessing a sense of history),

an issue from 1989 read:


"Still, there are a few DJs like Mel , Alisa, Last Will, and of course [my name] (actually, I don't know if he's still on the air, but his memory will live forever), who are as good as any DJ anywhere. Better, acrually",

plus Tré Cool" of Green Day posted (https:/m.facebook.com/GreenDayLIVEonTour/posts/10156927017728961) the lyrics of an old song that names me (and yes it really was me the song was referring to amongst others, I was there (ironically, while I had friends who knew Tré I didn't know him and I was friends with Sweet Children/Green Day's original drummer instead. Feel free to call me a "hipster" dagnabbit, in my days that was something you had to earn)!

I told my wife, and she was not impressed.

Speaking of the '80's; my wife has had an increasing interest in gardening lately, and so I took a vacation day to take her a free admission day at the San Francisco Botanical Gardens (as an Oakland partisan I usually decry San Francisco, but if I'm on a vacation day instead of working it really can be beautiful place), and near the gardens, and right by where we parked is the National Aids Memorial Grove (https://www.google.com/search?q=national+aids+memorial+grove&oq=national+aids+memorial+grove&aqs=chrome..69i57.17334j0j7&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#lkt=LocalPoiPhotos&trex=m_t:lcl_akp,rc_f:nav,rc_ludocids:162219102812 4150662,rc_q:National%2520AIDS%2520Memorial%2520Gr ove,ru_q:National%2520AIDS%2520Memorial%2520Grove&viewerState=ga) which we briefly visited, and fortunately I was wearing dark sunglasses to hide my tears, a little surprising to me, but it shouldn't have been as a little bit more than a week ago I found, by reading the newspaper reports of a couple of far "There be Dragons" incidents, that my +2 Armor of Callousness has been removed (which has made for an unpleasant week for me, I need it back to work in the jails and the autopsy room).
Fortunately for me I wasn't as touched by the new pestilence in the "80's as others were, but unfortunately the first friend of mine to die (rather than a relative or one of my parents friends) was killed by Aids while I was still a teenager, and I still remember them.

Increasingly, you have become the person that no one expects to have connections to pop culture icons, but can knowingly make those same connections. Sort of like the 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon.

Colour me impressed at least. Granted, I live in rural Canada. Knowing anyone ix impressive (seriously a city of 1 million people is "The City" for me. For y'all down south, that's a freaking hamlet).

As for your loss of the armour of callousness, in my experience it binds in to many places. The wounds it guards best against are probably worth risking. Just keep a good healer around for times when the slings and arrows of misfortune come through.

[darkrose50]

War, what is it good for? TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCEMNET! Say it again!

[DataNinja]

I'm currently addicted to Ninja Sex Party's cover albums... well, have been for the entire summer. Danny's voice was made for these songs, and Last Unicorn makes me have so many feels even though I've never seen the film.

Yeah, he definitely has a good voice, and I much prefer the songs without gratuitous explicit content, so the covers are nice. Others can be hit or miss depending on how much I can concentrate on melody over lyrics there and in Starbomb. There's also his prior band Skyhill and some collaboration with TWRP if you weren't aware, which has other songs in that vein (I've been a sucker for Starlight Brigade recently).


War, what is it good for? TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCEMNET! Say it again!

...I'm not sure where this came from, or where you're trying to go with it. But it feels like a place that probably isn't too light and fluffy, and might possibly err towards the political. :smalltongue:

[LaZodiac]

Ninja Sex Party feels like one of those things I would have loved as a kid but as a person now I just cannot stand. Danny Sexparty is a good artist and a relatively decent person overall, but personal grudges and a general just distaste for that kinda comedy means I cannot actually find myself enjoying him.

Which sucks because I feel like I still would enjoy it. I just don't due to dumb silly but ultimately valid reasons.

[DataNinja]

Ninja Sex Party feels like one of those things I would have loved as a kid but as a person now I just cannot stand. Danny Sexparty is a good artist and a relatively decent person overall, but personal grudges and a general just distaste for that kinda comedy means I cannot actually find myself enjoying him.

Which sucks because I feel like I still would enjoy it. I just don't due to dumb silly but ultimately valid reasons.

Nah, it's all very fair. Heck, even just a person or event is a valid reason for not liking something. I've had media that I associate with accidentally almost breaking a friendship, so, uh, yeah, can't look at anything related to that anymore, even if I really enjoyed it before. And taste is also a thing. You shouldn't force yourself to try and enjoy something that you don't like the taste of, really. It's as true for everything else as it is for food. :smalltongue:

[Anonymouswizard]

Fair. They're secondhand for a reason, though, usually. :smallwink:

Look, you try affording this stuff on a student budget :smalltongue@


I mean, technically it's two parts... just each of those parts have the immediate family, which involves preliminary visiting, and then the family who shows up just for the dinner part. But, yeah. Last Christmas-y season, with Birthdays (there're two of them in that stretch, one of them mine), and Christmas, and all of that... I ended up with, like, seven family events in ten days. By the end of it I was just done.

Ah, yep, I feel your pain. Nothing as heavy as that personally, but I feel ya.


Don't worry. It'll be in the last place that you look. I guarantee it. :smallwink:

In all seriousness, I once spent like twenty minutes as a teen trying to work out why that is.

I might not be very bright :smallbiggrin:

[DataNinja]

Look, you try affording this stuff on a student budget :smalltongue@

Magic ain't cheap, indeed. :smalltongue:




In all seriousness, I once spent like twenty minutes as a teen trying to work out why that is.

I might not be very bright :smallbiggrin:

To be fair, it's not something that's necessarily obvious at first glance. It just feels that way in retrospect. :smallamused:

[halfeye]

...I'm not sure where this came from, or where you're trying to go with it. But it feels like a place that probably isn't too light and fluffy, and might possibly err towards the political. :smalltongue:

It was a song in the sixties.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_(The_Temptations_song)#Edwin_Starr_version

[Anonymouswizard]

So I'm watching Another Life, and I'm annoyed at this idea that you want risk takers for space travel. No, you very much want sensible pragmatic people who won't risk the spaceship to save a few months (which is implied to be within their tollerences).

Also, what's up with all the reactionless drives operating at multiple-gs and not being used for relativistic travel when FTL is impractical. In fact I like relativistic travel, it gets across the vastness of space better to be unable to go back to what you've left. I'm starting to go back to one of my earlier attempts at space opera which tended to have species develop reactionless drives or FTL travel (that was practically capped at approximately 3c, 10c for the 'advanced' species), and rework it to be a better exploration story set on a ship with a roughly 4g reactionless drive. Now I just need to get the time to actually write when I'm not shattered.

EDIT: Quote, huh, what is it good for, absoloutely nothing, say it again

[Teddy]

I did web search of myself and found that the The.East Bay Punk Digital Archive (https://eastbaypunkda.com/s/east-bay-punk-digital-archive/item) had PDF copies of a fanzine from 1988 one of which read;


'Even the normally dour [my name] could be heard exclaiming "I haven't had this much fun since the RAMONES back in 1985 ([my first name] is one of the few members of his generation pos-sessing a sense of history),

an issue from 1989 read:


"Still, there are a few DJs like Mel , Alisa, Last Will, and of course [my name] (actually, I don't know if he's still on the air, but his memory will live forever), who are as good as any DJ anywhere. Better, acrually",

plus Tré Cool" of Green Day posted (https:/m.facebook.com/GreenDayLIVEonTour/posts/10156927017728961) the lyrics of an old song that names me (and yes it really was me the song was referring to amongst others, I was there (ironically, while I had friends who knew Tré I didn't know him and I was friends with Sweet Children/Green Day's original drummer instead. Feel free to call me a "hipster" dagnabbit, in my days that was something you had to earn)!

I told my wife, and she was not impressed.

I'm impressed! I quite love a rich and intertwined history, be it of people, things or just a good story.


War, what is it good for? TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCEMNET! Say it again!

I'm trying, but I'm not entirely sure on how to pronounce "ADVANCEMNET". Is it AD-VAN-CEM-NET? Or is it ADVANCE-MNET? http://i.imgur.com/FZ6yI9l.png

ION:
Settlers of Catan is perfect fodder and ripe soil for puns. Also, the number 3 has won me a game, and 10 lost me the other. Seriously, in the second game, we had a streak of five 10s in seven rolls. I didn't even have enough resources to trade for the sheep I needed for my third village for several rounds. Meanwhile, my co-players flooded the market with stone.

[Tvtyrant]

I would read it advance--em-net, with an appalachian accent.

[Insane Jeenyus]

So I'm watching Another Life, and I'm annoyed at this idea that you want risk takers for space travel. No, you very much want sensible pragmatic people who won't risk the spaceship to save a few months (which is implied to be within their tolerances).

Also, what's up with all the reaction-less drives operating at multiple-gs and not being used for relativistic travel when FTL is impractical. In fact I like relativistic travel, it gets across the vastness of space better to be unable to go back to what you've left. I'm starting to go back to one of my earlier attempts at space opera which tended to have species develop reaction-less drives or FTL travel (that was practically capped at approximately 3c, 10c for the 'advanced' species), and rework it to be a better exploration story set on a ship with a roughly 4g reactionless drive. Now I just need to get the time to actually write when I'm not shattered.

EDIT: Quote, huh, what is it good for, absolutely nothing, say it again

I am watching that too, and not only is the science weak and the character personalities off, as you have pointed out, I would like to say the acting is cold and mechanical. I have done stage drama several times and I would say I know a thing or two. Also the character of Nico is an underrated part for the actress. I remember her from Longmire. The can do better with that actress's skills.

The only paths shown were through or to the clockwise direction. What about over or at an angle? space is 3 D!

.. .. .. .. .., huh, what is it good for, Technological Advancement, say it again!

[Tvtyrant]

Perhaps the dumbest question of my life: What do parliamentary countries call class/school presidents? The public doesn't elect the PM.

[Rawhide]

Perhaps the dumbest question of my life: What do parliamentary countries call class/school presidents? The public doesn't elect the PM.

Because the title has nothing to do with real world political structures, which we will not discuss, and instead reflects the fact that they are an official chosen to preside over a meeting or assembly (https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/president).

[Peelee]

Because the title has nothing to do with real world political structures, which we will not discuss, and instead reflects the fact that they are an official chosen to preside over a meeting or assembly (https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/president).

You've made me sad to discover there's no Prime Student.

[Bartmanhomer]

I feel very calm today because I drink one small cup of coffee and three cups of water at work.

[factotum]

Perhaps the dumbest question of my life: What do parliamentary countries call class/school presidents? The public doesn't elect the PM.

I've never actually heard of such a thing in the UK. I think at posh places like Eton you might have a "head boy", but a class president? Nah.

[Anonymouswizard]

Perhaps the dumbest question of my life: What do parliamentary countries call class/school presidents? The public doesn't elect the PM.

Class President? What's That?

(Then again, the prefects and head boy/girl at my school had little in the way of powers or responsibilities.)

[AMFV]

Class President? What's That?

(Then again, the prefects and head boy/girl at my school had little in the way of powers or responsibilities.)

Class president is probably pretty similar to the prefect's or head boy except that they are elected by the student body. They don't really have any power the only thing they really do is bring issues to the attention of the principal and maybe pick the theme for some dance or something.

[Anonymouswizard]

Class president is probably pretty similar to the prefect's or head boy except that they are elected by the student body. They don't really have any power the only thing they really do is bring issues to the attention of the principal and maybe pick the theme for some dance or something.

More power than the prefects at my school :smalltongue:

In all seriousness, I think my school only had prefects and a head boy/girl because it used to be a grammar school, there were like six prefects including head boy and head girl, with head boy and girl technically elected by the students but with a veto held by the teachers. Mostly they seemed to keep the common room in line, because those with issues needed to be brought to the head teacher tended to be on the other campus (yes, there were two campuses, used to be two schools but they merged and split the campuses by years).

[SZbNAhL]

The main power of the Head Boy/Girl is that they can list being the Head Boy/Girl on their university application.

[darkrose50]

You've made me sad to discover there's no Prime Student.

Is Bumblebee a student of Optimus Prime?

[HalfTangible]

You've made me sad to discover there's no Prime Student.

Valedictorian.

Kinda.

[Anonymouswizard]

The main power of the Head Boy/Girl is that they can list being the Head Boy/Girl on their university application.

True, their main responsibility is making sure that's still a good thing when the next Head Boy/Girl is applying to uni.

It's like being on the committe in a small (less than twenty person) society, nobody expects you to do a lot running the society because at that point you can pretty much run it via direct democracy*, but at the same time you've got to keep it from going overboard and keep control of the purse strings so it looks good on the next exec's CV.

* Seriously, I was in a society that did this. The main point of exec meetings was to work out all the details.

[Tvtyrant]

You've made me sad to discover there's no Prime Student.

Calling the elected student the princeps would be pretty sci-fi.

[Peelee]

Calling the elected student the princeps would be pretty sci-fi.

I hear that and just think ancient Roman empire.

... Which is a plus, far as I'm concerned.

[Tvtyrant]

I hear that and just think ancient Roman empire.

Yeah but a lot of sci-fi uses Roman names In Space!

[LaZodiac]

Yeah but a lot of sci-fi uses Roman names In Space!

One of these days I want to see a space sci fi culture that uses Roman names but also is like, Roman in aesthetic and flavor as well.

Give me laser legionaries please.

[Tvtyrant]

One of these days I want to see a space sci fi culture that uses Roman names but also is like, Roman in aesthetic and flavor as well.

Give me laser legionaries please.

Star Wars is actually pretty close, they just needed to address the enslaved droid issue more and it would be Space Rome. The Rebellion were the wrong heroes the whole time :)

[Peelee]

One of these days I want to see a space sci fi culture that uses Roman names but also is like, Roman in aesthetic and flavor as well.

Give me laser legionaries please.

There's this new show out, pretty good. I think you'd like it. Space Voyage (https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Bread_and_Circuses_(episode)) or something. :smalltongue:

[LaZodiac]

For the second time this week a client came in to get some stuff done and he brought me hot chocolate.

My man there's a reason your last name is King.

[Durkoala]

One of these days I want to see a space sci fi culture that uses Roman names but also is like, Roman in aesthetic and flavor as well.

Give me laser legionaries please.

I did make up a space-age Roman empire when I was a kid. They were called the Romulans and I was very upset when I heard about Star Trek.

[DataNinja]

For the second time this week a client came in to get some stuff done and he brought me hot chocolate.

My man there's a reason your last name is King.

Nice. Always cool when people do stuff like that. Restores some faith in humanity. ...and clients. :smalltongue:

[LaZodiac]

He's a wonderfully polite and nice man with a lot of joy in him despite the fact that the government very definitely set his lodge on fire by accident or on purpose. If I was him I'd probably be incredibly pissed off at all times because what the actual ****.

Working in a law office is fun, by the way.

[HalfTangible]

One of these days I want to see a space sci fi culture that uses Roman names but also is like, Roman in aesthetic and flavor as well.

Give me laser legionaries please.

*points at Macragge and the realm of Ultramar. Kinda. They might be more Greek come to think of it.*

Why did come autocorrect to 'cone'?

[AMFV]

More power than the prefects at my school :smalltongue:

Eh, they don't really have any power either and what they have is pretty much completely subject to veto from the school administration


The main power of the Head Boy/Girl is that they can list being the Head Boy/Girl on their university application.
That's pretty much about exactly the same

[DataNinja]

*points at Macragge and the realm of Ultramar. Kinda. They might be more Greek come to think of it.*

Why did come autocorrect to 'cone'?

I mean, I thought of that, but they're still only pseudo-Roman aesthetic. Like, sure, the Imperium has that vague Latin-Roman eagle-esque aesthetic going on, but, like, I wouldn't really call their culture and everything that. In Ultramar perhaps, but that's still only a microcosm of what the Imperium is (which is much, much more Gothic in aesthetic), and there really isn't any focus on the Romanesque parts at all. Sure, 30k has the Legions and all, which technically fits the letter of the request, but I don't really think that it counts that much towards the intent.

[Fyraltari]

Yesterday I had a first-aid/emergency response formation (which basically amounts to ‘how not to make the situation worse and call the fire department’) and since I get a four days week-end I just went to a theater that played 1973 comedy classic Les aventures de Rabbi Jacob starring Louis de Funès. This is a good week.

[Anonymouswizard]

For the second time this week a client came in to get some stuff done and he brought me hot chocolate.

My man there's a reason your last name is King.

Royal descent?

[LaZodiac]

Royal descent?

Being a hero, actually.

[Peelee]

Being a hero, actually.

Shouldn't the last name be Hero, then?

[Anonymouswizard]

Shouldn't the last name be Hero, then?

Maybe it's his first nsme, the Lord Sir Hero King.

[Rawhide]

One of these days I want to see a space sci fi culture that uses Roman names but also is like, Roman in aesthetic and flavor as well.

Give me laser legionaries please.

Well, there were the Romulans of the original series of Star Trek, which shared a much more Roman aesthetic than their later revisions.

Even their ships were painted in a very Roman style.

[Algeh]

I'm currently addicted to Ninja Sex Party's cover albums... well, have been for the entire summer. Danny's voice was made for these songs, and Last Unicorn makes me have so many feels even though I've never seen the film.

...there are people who do Last Unicorn covers? I should probably poke suspiciously at that. (I have, however, once heard America sing The Last Unicorn at one of their concerts, which I was not expecting. I knew they'd performed the music for the movie, but didn't realize that it would be something they'd actually play anything from in concert. They don't perform it at every one of their concerts, but they did at one of the several of theirs I've been to and I guess now I'm out as a Double Nerd for both that movie and that band.)

Anyway, I highly recommend The Last Unicorn movie, The Last Unicorn book (the author wrote the screenplay for the movie so it's a pretty thoughtful adaptation), other books by Peter S. Beagle, seeing America in concert, seeing Peter S. Beagle in person, seeing Peter S. Beagle in concert, and pretty much anything else vaguely adjacent, apparently.

As for the school government thread, I went to Weird Hippie High School (actually a k-12 school). We had a small steering committee open to all but regularly attended by about 3-5 people, and school-wide Open Forums to debate and discuss issues. Before that, I went to a different, smaller Hippie 6-12 school that had weekly all-school meetings with a rotating student chair using Robert's Rules of Order and various subcommittees as voted on by the general meeting. Small Hippie 6-12 school actually gave quite a bit of budgetary power to the all-school meetings and I remember speaking in front of the school when we needed money for electronics parts for projects and such as well as serving on subcommittees. (This was good preparation for SF fandom later.)

In other news, I've decided that not only is my house not childproof, my house is childcounterexample. My cousin brought her two little kids over today and it's amazing the things a 3 and 4 year old will immediately find and how few of them were things that were a good idea for them to be into. I like the kids, and they're within reason for age-appropriate behavior, but I'm glad we quickly left for a park with a big playground instead. (I let them play the piano, which kept them occupied for a while, but I didn't really have a lot else in my living room that was neither dangerous nor fragile, yet interesting to small children.)

[AMFV]

Kenny Loggins did an exceptional cover of The Last Unicorn.

[enderlord99]

My family once had a computer with over 600 viruses, 4 of which were on the motherboard.

We're all more careful now.

[Anonymouswizard]

You know what I just had a sudden wage of nostalgia for? Chucklevision and Bodger and Badger.

I mean, even though it makes me sad I understand the nostalgia for Chucklevision, but Bodger and Badger? I don't remember that show being good, all I remember is the theme song and Badger puppet.

[SZbNAhL]

You know what I just had a sudden wage of nostalgia for? Chucklevision and Bodger and Badger.

I mean, even though it makes me sad I understand the nostalgia for Chucklevision, but Bodger and Badger? I don't remember that show being good, all I remember is the theme song and Badger puppet.

That is exactly the same amount as I remember of Bodger and Badger (other than that they often threw around some sort of corn starch that they adamantly insisted was mashed potato for some reason).

I also vaguely remember a programme called Radio Roo, but don't even remember the puppet from that, just the theme song. I just looked it up to make sure it really existed, and the cast list refers to "Richard Braine as the man from MI5", which raises multiple questions.

[Anonymouswizard]

That is exactly the same amount as I remember of Bodger and Badger (other than that they often threw around some sort of corn starch that they adamantly insisted was mashed potato for some reason).

Because eventful knows Badger loves MASHED POTATO!

I has honestly utterly forgotten about that bit.


I also vaguely remember a programme called Radio Roo, but don't even remember the puppet from that, just the theme song. I just looked it up to make sure it really existed, and the cast list refers to "Richard Braine as the man from MI5", which raises multiple questions.

It doesn't surprise me, I'm certain about half the children's TV could be described as 'barely competent man and puppet, it doesn't quite make sense.'.

The other half seemed to be either the Chuckle Brothers or **** and Dom (probably in da bungalow).

[SZbNAhL]

I'm certain about half the children's TV could be described as 'barely competent man and puppet, it doesn't quite make sense.'.

They're really all Basil Brush clones, which in turn is largely an inversion of the Sooty dynamic.


The other half seemed to be either the Chuckle Brothers or **** and Dom (probably in da bungalow).

I never knew you felt so strongly about Richard McCourt. :smalltongue:

[Anonymouswizard]

They're really all Basil Brush clones, which in turn is largely an inversion of the Sooty dynamic.

The thing is that I love(d) Sooty, and I loved a lot of the shows, but I hated Basil Brush with a passion. I can't for the life of me remember why.

Anyway, izzy wizzy let's get busy (do you think we've confused the Americans yet?)


I never knew you felt so strongly about Richard McCourt. :smalltongue:

I forgot the board would censor that. I want to go back and fix it, because that is how they're known (it's not 'Richard and Dom in da Bungalow'), another part of me thinks it's funnier to leave it :smallwink:

[SZbNAhL]

Do you think we've confused the Americans yet?

If I have to read about the Superb Owl they give to their best Rugby players, they can read up on what proper television looks like.


I forgot the board would censor that. I want to go back and fix it, because that is how they're known (it's not 'Richard and Dom in da Bungalow'), another part of me thinks it's funnier to leave it :smallwink:

It's clear anti-British bias. They won't let us discuss S****horpe, Penistone, Sma****...

Edit: I apologise, we are apparently allowed to say penis.

[Anonymouswizard]

If I have to read about the Superb Owl they give to their best Rugby players, they can read up on what proper television looks like.

Never got that. Surely if you were going to associate a bird with Rugby you'd pick the Ostrich?

I still don't get the armour though. Are they really so worried that their jerseys going to be damaged? Something something concussion.


It's clear anti-British bias. They won't let us discuss S****horpe, Penistone, Sma****...

Edit: I apologise, we are apparently allowed to say penis.

Yes, it seems to be everywhere these filters are. I think we need to check if the boards are sexist by using that word.

Unfortunately I don't know any place names that include vagina. Guess I'll have to go over to Google Maps after work.

[Peelee]

I still don't get the armour though. Are they really so worried that their jerseys going to be damaged?

Granted, super-headbrick rugby manages to bypass the scholarship issues (https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/2012-10-29), but still.

[Mith]

Anyway, izzy wizzy let's get busy (do you think we've confused the Americans yet?)


Nah, if I feel like you are getting out of hand, I'll start chucking NFB animated shorts and classic PSAs.

[factotum]

You know what I just had a sudden wage of nostalgia for? Chucklevision and Bodger and Badger.

And nostalgia is all you can have--Andy Cunningham (Bodger) and Barry Chuckle both died recently. God, I feel old sometimes. :smallyuk:

[Anonymouswizard]

And nostalgia is all you can have--Andy Cunningham (Bodger) and Barry Chuckle both died recently. God, I feel old sometimes. :smallyuk:

So do I, so do I.

But that's why it feels sad. Hard to watch Chucklevision anymore knowing they these days it world just be

"To me."
"To you."
"To me."
"To you."
And this is where I hour I've remembered which Chuckle says what correctly. But I remember what my Facebook feed was like when Barry died.

[Bartmanhomer]

Are paladins consider knights? :confused:

[Fyraltari]

Are paladins consider knights? :confused:

In what context and for what purpose? Both "knight" and "paladin" are terms that have had various meanings over the years though there is genrally a significant aount of overlap.

"Paladin" was originally coined to refer to the Twelve Peers of Charlemagne, semi-historical knights that would serve as his champions/captains/bodyguards in a "Knight of the Round Table" kind of way.

From that it evolved to mean "right-hand man/men of an emperor" and by way of DnD and WarCraft "magical holy warrior".

"Knight", meanwhile was originally a social class (rich enough to own a horse but not a noble) then refered to members of an order of fighters within the nobility that had sworn some kind of oath. Then the idea of the knight (errant) became an archetype of a righteous warrior vainquisher of evil (the so-called knight in shining armor) while the title remained but is generally not much more than something fancy to put on a business card.

So I would say that there is significant overlap between the two in the modern pop culture meaning of both words: being just warriors who may or may not have a strict code of conduct, but the paladin is often expected to have magic powers and/or be religious when the knight isn't.

Also, see how Miko Miyazaki of OOTS-fame is a both a samurai (which is the japanese equivalent of a knight) and a paladin.

[Bartmanhomer]

In what context and for what purpose? Both "knight" and "paladin" are terms that have had various meanings over the years though there is generally a significant amount of overlap.

"Paladin" was originally coined to refer to the Twelve Peers of Charlemagne, semi-historical knights that would serve as his champions/captains/bodyguards in a "Knight of the Round Table" kind of way.

From that it evolved to mean "right-hand man/men of an emperor" and by way of DnD and WarCraft "magical holy warrior".

"Knight", meanwhile was originally a social class (rich enough to own a horse but not a noble) then referred to members of an order of fighters within the nobility that had sworn some kind of oath. Then the idea of the knight (errant) became an archetype of a righteous warrior vanquisher of evil (the so-called knight in shining armour) while the title remained but is generally not much more than something fancy to put on a business card.

So I would say that there is significant overlap between the two in the modern pop culture meaning of both worlds: being just warriors who may or may not have a strict code of conduct, but the paladin is often expected to have magic powers and/or be religious when the knight isn't.

Also, see how Miko Miyazaki of OOTS-fame is both a samurai (which is the Japanese equivalent of a knight) and a paladin.
Sorry I didn't explain myself a bit more clearly. I was just asking a D&D question is paladins considered to be knights.

[Fyraltari]

Sorry I didn't explain myself a bit more clearly. I was just asking a D&D question is paladins considered to be knights.

Maybe ask in one of the gaming subforums then?

[Peelee]

Charlemgane

You sadden the king of the Franks. And probably the king of the Petes.

[Bartmanhomer]

Maybe ask in one of the gaming subforums then?

I should have asked that in the gaming subforum but many members get upset at me and think that I ask a very stupid question. :frown:

[Fyraltari]

You sadden the king of the Franks.
It's okay, the man couldn't read anyway.
I don't get it, "Petes"?

[Caerulea]

Granted, super-headbrick rugby manages to bypass the scholarship issues (https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/2012-10-29), but still.
Dang you, now I'm caught in a smbc pit. Also, I hadn't seen that one before, it's clever.

[Peelee]

Dang you, now I'm caught in a smbc pit.

Always happy to oblige!

[Tvtyrant]

You sadden the king of the Franks. And probably the king of the Petes.

He charlemangled that name.

[LaZodiac]

I have, today, seen the film "The House With A Clock In It's Walls" and it was... a fascinating thing, to be sure.

It had some of the best nuanced, subtle storytelling and cinematography I've seen in awhile... and then twenty minutes later in a brutally stupid scene all but spell out the subtle thing they just did previous. It's got some really good, snappy dialogue, followed by some pretty terrible dumb **** comedy courtesy of Jack Black who is trying his best. The acting is... decent at best for the most part, and the villain has the utter failure of being just not hammy enough for an obviously intended to be hammy role.

Cate Blanchett steals the show of course, but even she's kinda low energy at times, which is just a shame. But that's the film in general really. It's very disjointed in terms of quality, and as such is a disjointed experience.

[2D8HP]

Sorry I didn't explain myself a bit more clearly. I was just asking a D&D question is paladins considered to be knights.


In the 1985 Unearthed Arcana "1.5" version of Advanced Dungeons & Dragons "Paladins" were a sub-class of "Cavaliers" and were definitely Knights.

[Insane Jeenyus]

Are paladins consider knights? :confused:I would say all paladins are knights, or destined to be knights, but not all knights are Paladins. I just watched "Last Knights" on Netflix and it is a good example of what I just said. In fact, I got on line to say that it was a great movie!

[Fyraltari]

He charlemangled that name.

Imma sig that if you agree.

[Teddy]

Are paladins consider knights? :confused:

For what does it matter? Unless you're using a rules-based definition of what a knight is, we'll have to determine that first. If by knight you mean someone who is granted the title by a person in power in exchange for their service as a soldier, they can be, but don't have to. If you mean a cavalry soldier who fights in heavy armour, they can be, but don't have to.

Unless there are specific rules for being a knight, I guess the short answer is "some are, but not all".

[Insane Jeenyus]

Sometimes a Knight is "Ronin" or lord-less if they have been disavowed for some reason.

[Rawhide]

A fallen paladin is a fighter without bonus feats.

[Insane Jeenyus]

By Ronin, I mean that through no fault of the Paladin, his/her lord was killed. do you have Netflix?

[Anonymouswizard]

Are paladins consider knights? :confused:

It's slightly complicated.

Paladins, as conceived in the early editions of Dungeons & Dragons, are the truest expression of the ideal of the knight in shining armour, just, true, and fighting for what is right and proper even when that's not technically legal. This is complicated by 4e turning Paladins into 'warriors of faith' (an archetype I prefer to call the Templar), who were essentially the militant arm of their faith and empowered by their god with divine powers, sorry that's clerics, Paladins are the militant arm of their faith and empowered by their god with divine powers...

Did I mention that several classes in D&D embody incredibly similar archetypes? Don't get me started on Clerics/Warlocks.

Anyway, we have now established that Paladins are supposed to take the narrative role of knights, at least before 4e changed them and 5e made them into something? Seriously, the 5e fluff seems to be torn between the old Ideal Knight archetype and a more generic Oathsworn Warrior archetype, with only the Devotion Paladin truly filling the role of the former. At least they're meaningly distinct from Clerics now.

But that doesn't mean they have to fill the social role of the knight, which is to be rewarded by the monarch for making a great contribution to British culture gather soldiers and fight in times of war. In fact many paladins don't fulfil this role, being more knight errant than landed knight, wandering the world righting wrongs, which makes this even more complicated.

In essence, a Paladin is a knight if they can call themselves Sir/Dame due to being given the title by a lord. There's technically no other requirement, although particular worlds and realms might have a vast array of duties for knights.

As a side note, in Basic D&D Paladins and Knights (as well as Avengers) were explicitly different things. A Knight swore fealty to a lord and got a number of social benefits, while Paladins and Avengers were associated with churches and got divine powers but few social benefits.

[Insane Jeenyus]

A.non Wizard has stated it very well.

[FinnLassie]

Spent the weekend at the Finnish Vidcon equivalent reaching out to kids, young people and parents about internet safety and about the web based youth and children's work we have to offer by the organisation. Especially the guides for parents about children's use of the internet as well as gaming were pretty popular, and we only had a couple of angry WE ARE FINE WITH INTERNET SAFETY >:(( comments from passing parents. Otherwise a rather pleasant experience, though stressful.

[Anonymouswizard]

A.non Wizard has stated it very well.

I got into medieval history and the fueldal system soon after beginning my Engineering degree.

In fact, you know the entire 'autism obsession' thing? I have a rather broad range f knowledge because I'll occasionally take a break from gaming and spend six hours to two weeks researching something, and while I'll forget 90% of it some of it will stay. Which means I probably know more about the female reproductive system than most men.


Spent the weekend at the Finnish Vidcon equivalent reaching out to kids, young people and parents about internet safety and about the web based youth and children's work we have to offer by the organisation. Especially the guides for parents about children's use of the internet as well as gaming were pretty popular, and we only had a couple of angry WE ARE FINE WITH INTERNET SAFETY >:(( comments from passing parents. Otherwise a rather pleasant experience, though stressful.

I wish somebody had actualy explained internet safety to me when I was a kid. To be fair, I think my dad would hvve done if he had any idea how bad my school's teaching of it was. Seriously, why would anybody dismiss people trying to explain something that people don't bother to teach?

Glad you had fun though.

[Rawhide]

By Ronin, I mean that through no fault of the Paladin, his/her lord was killed. do you have Netflix?

Was this in reply to me? Because it's a bit of a non-sequitur if it is...

[DataNinja]

A.non Wizard has stated it very well.

That makes it sound like he's a non-wizard. :smalltongue:


Spent the weekend at the Finnish Vidcon equivalent reaching out to kids, young people and parents about internet safety and about the web based youth and children's work we have to offer by the organisation. Especially the guides for parents about children's use of the internet as well as gaming were pretty popular, and we only had a couple of angry WE ARE FINE WITH INTERNET SAFETY >:(( comments from passing parents. Otherwise a rather pleasant experience, though stressful.

Oh, nice! Besides the obvious issues, that sounds like it was super fun.


Seriously, why would anybody dismiss people trying to explain something that people don't bother to teach?

Easy. They take it as you personally attacking them on their ability to do stuff. "How dare you imply that we were unable to properly educate our child!"

[Peelee]

Hmmm. The cyborgs are changing. No longer all cyborg-y.

[Fyraltari]

Hmmm. The cyborgs are changing. No longer all cyborg-y.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Umc9ezAyJv0

In seriousness, congrats on the new avatar DataNinja.

[DataNinja]

Hmmm. The cyborgs are changing. No longer all cyborg-y.

You get datafairies instead. Here to have fun with your systems. :smallwink:
(And also is based off an (obvious abstraction) of yours truly. So, hey, bit of a view of the person behind the screen here.)

[enderlord99]

The only "internet safety" I was taught as a small child was "if you tell someone on the internet your real name, they will be able to find your house. Most people on the internet want to find your house so they can murder you."

[LaZodiac]

You get datafairies instead. Here to have fun with your systems. :smallwink:
(And also is based off an (obvious abstraction) of yours truly. So, hey, bit of a view of the person behind the screen here.)

This is amazing and I love her. Wooo!

[DataNinja]

This is amazing and I love her. Wooo!

Thank you! I do, too. Being a gynoid was fun for a time, but I did miss having bright colours and energy. Rainbow!

[Peelee]

Thank you! I do, too. Being a gynoid was fun for a time, but I did miss having bright colours and energy. Rainbow!

Colorblind powers activate!

[DataNinja]

Colorblind powers activate!

Tsk, tsk. Just because you can't quite see it all doesn't mean that you can't join in the rainbow energy. :smallwink:
Guess it's because you're a greyscale dragon, and not prismatic.

[Peelee]

Tsk, tsk. Just because you can't quite see it all doesn't mean that you can't join in the rainbow energy. :smallwink:

But my way leaves me invulnerable to Prismatic Spray.:smalltongue:

[DataNinja]

But my way leaves me invulnerable to Prismatic Spray.:smalltongue:

Haven't you ever read "Dancer in the Dark" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dancer_in_the_Dark_(short_story))? The light always overpowers the grey and miserable darkness. Eventually. :smallwink:

[Peelee]

Haven't you ever read "Dancer in the Dark" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dancer_in_the_Dark_(short_story))? The light always overpowers the grey and miserable darkness. Eventually. :smallwink:

Hmmm.
the countryside is covered with "darklines", a type of wire that absorbs light, making the environment dull and gloomy and seemingly draining all the townsfolk of vitality and joy.
"Dull" and "gloomy" don't describe grey at all, though! Grey is a fantastic color, full of life and shine and sheen! You need to appreciate greys more.

For reals, though, the colorblindness doesn't actually have any bearing on my favorite color being grey, I swear!

[DataNinja]

Hmmm.
"Dull" and "gloomy" don't describe grey at all, though! Grey is a fantastic color, full of life and shine and sheen! You need to appreciate greys more.
It needs more colour, though. It's fine for showing things, but, maaaaaan do I get no energy from it. :smalltongue:


For reals, though, the colorblindness doesn't actually have any bearing on my favorite color being grey, I swear!
I figured, but also thought it ripe for a little lighthearted ribbing. :smallwink:
Which surely isn't dangerous given the size differential between a dragon and a sylph.

[Peelee]

It needs more colour, though. It's fine for showing things, but, maaaaaan do I get no energy from it. :smalltongue:

Silver is like black; goes with everything, and is never out of style.

Totally in style, I say (https://66.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m63o531AfY1qk5528.jpg)!

[Insane Jeenyus]

A fallen paladin is a fighter without bonus feats.


By Ronin, I mean that through no fault of the Paladin, his/her lord was killed. do you have Netflix?


Was this in reply to me? Because it's a bit of a non-sequitur if it is...
Sorry, I should have quoted you. I was Multi tasking at the time.

[FinnLassie]

I wish somebody had actualy explained internet safety to me when I was a kid. To be fair, I think my dad would hvve done if he had any idea how bad my school's teaching of it was. Seriously, why would anybody dismiss people trying to explain something that people don't bother to teach?

Glad you had fun though.

The big thing to take into account is that the nature of internet safety has taken a clear turn from what was emphasised even just a few weeks ago. We raised awareness for deepfakes, how to obtain truthful/unbiased information from the internet and recognise fake news as well as highlight the importance of considering what you share on the internet and whom are able to see that content. And anyone can be a victim of fake profiles and identity theft - you don't have to be famous for that to happen.

Some parents were concerned, and rightfully so about grooming (in the past few weeks a couple of recent, extreme cases have surfaced in Finnish media), which we realise is something we need to take deeper into consideration. We're seriously thinking about how internet will change - are we entering a new, different kind of era of "don't take candy from strange adults"? But yeah. It's a serious matter, and even adults really need to wake up and realise what they're doing on social media as well.

It was stressful at times, but fun. I had difficulties connecting with the kids, but had very fruitful conversations with the parents. That, and our team was absolutely amazing. I'm very proud to volunteer for this organisation.

[Grey_Wolf_c]

Grey is a fantastic color, full of life and shine and sheen!

I beg to differ.

Grey Wolf

[LaZodiac]

The big thing to take into account is that the nature of internet safety has taken a clear turn from what was emphasised even just a few weeks ago. We raised awareness for deepfakes, how to obtain truthful/unbiased information from the internet and recognise fake news as well as highlight the importance of considering what you share on the internet and whom are able to see that content. And anyone can be a victim of fake profiles and identity theft - you don't have to be famous for that to happen.

Some parents were concerned, and rightfully so about grooming (in the past few weeks a couple of recent, extreme cases have surfaced in Finnish media), which we realise is something we need to take deeper into consideration. We're seriously thinking about how internet will change - are we entering a new, different kind of era of "don't take candy from strange adults"? But yeah. It's a serious matter, and even adults really need to wake up and realise what they're doing on social media as well.

It was stressful at times, but fun. I had difficulties connecting with the kids, but had very fruitful conversations with the parents. That, and our team was absolutely amazing. I'm very proud to volunteer for this organisation.

You're doing god's work Finn, the world needs so much of this exact thing.

[Bartmanhomer]

I got this song Baby Shark stuck in my head. LOL! :biggrin:

[Teddy]

You get datafairies instead. Here to have fun with your systems. :smallwink:
(And also is based off an (obvious abstraction) of yours truly. So, hey, bit of a view of the person behind the screen here.)

"Sprites in the system? Must be a technomancer nearby! Bring out your stun guns, chummers, Evo will pay handsomely for another "volunteer" for their clinical studies."

(I might be a little hyped for Shadowrun 6E) http://i.imgur.com/haudcUB.png

[LaZodiac]

"Sprites in the system? Must be a technomancer nearby! Bring out your stun guns, chummers, Evo will pay handsomely for another "volunteer" for their clinical studies."

(I might be a little hyped for Shadowrun 6E) http://i.imgur.com/haudcUB.png

The only Technomancer I know is the magical girl I came up with for a Super Hero game/setting. That said heck yeah, Shadowrun rules. I kinda wanna get into a game of it but I'm not sure if my idea for a character would be reasonable.

[HalfTangible]

The only Technomancer I know is the magical girl I came up with for a Super Hero game/setting. That said heck yeah, Shadowrun rules. I kinda wanna get into a game of it but I'm not sure if my idea for a character would be reasonable.


reasonable.


Shadowrun...reasonable.

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No comment.

[LaZodiac]

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No comment.

I wanna be the robot geisha from Ghost in the Shell that has 360 degree limb rotation, a samurai sword up her arm, and a submachine gun up the other one.

[DataNinja]

"Sprites in the system? Must be a technomancer nearby! Bring out your stun guns, chummers, Evo will pay handsomely for another "volunteer" for their clinical studies."
Hey, hey, hey, no need for violence. A little mischief never hurt anybody, no? Just need a little livelihood in your lives. :smalltongue:


The only Technomancer I know is the magical girl I came up with for a Super Hero game/setting. That said heck yeah, Shadowrun rules. I kinda wanna get into a game of it but I'm not sure if my idea for a character would be reasonable.
...I have a soft spot for Technomancers. But, uh, that's probably obvious, I'd say. :smallamused:
(Technomancer magical girl sounds interesting. Is she utterly incompetent with tech otherwise? :smalltongue: )


I wanna be the robot geisha from Ghost in the Shell that has 360 degree limb rotation, a samurai sword up her arm, and a submachine gun up the other one.
Submachine gun sounds impractical due to bullet storage.
Get a laser rifle instead, then you just need a bigger power source. :smallwink: